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Finally watched this (tried to) on Amazon video. I got about halfway through it, god drat its boring. For those who havent seen it or dont know the story its about this young man who decides he wants to renounce his material life and wander out into the cold-rear end woods to commit slow, agonizing suicide. (based on a true story) Dont get me wrong, i'm all for people having self determination and making thier own path through life but the way this guy did it just annoyed the heck outta me. He was obviously from a nice family and had everything he needed growing up, the story starts with him graduating from Harvard and in a pivotal scene at the family celebration dinner at a really nice restaurant his parents piss him off by telling him that they want to buy him a new car as a graduation present (the bastards!). This seems to seal the deal on his plans to drop out of society. He burns all his forms of ID and cuts up his credit cards. He sends his life savings to Oxfam (okay fine, its a good charity at least), packs a backpack, jumps in his car and drives off to his new life as a homeless tramp so he can "find the truth about himself". gently caress his poor family, they never see his dumb rear end again as far as I could tell.  Above is the last known photo of a spoiled rich kid (the real one, not the movie one) before he died from eating poison berries. Am I wrong? should I have more empathy for this guy?
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Mar 28, 2017 16:05
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the poison berries he ate were actually seeds from the wild potato plant which up until like 3 years ago were considered edible but some biochemist guy read his journal and figured out that the seeds were actually highly toxic with an alkaloid that prevents your body from metabolizing other proteins if you don't cook them
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Mar 28, 2017 16:10
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nigga crab pollock posted:the poison berries he ate were actually seeds from the wild potato plant which up until like 3 years ago were considered edible but some biochemist guy read his journal and figured out that the seeds were actually highly toxic with an alkaloid that prevents your body from metabolizing other proteins if you don't cook them 
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Mar 28, 2017 16:13
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JiveHonky posted:Am I wrong? should I have more empathy for this guy?
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Mar 28, 2017 16:14
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Your probs normal. On a similar note, I feel no sympathy for that one guy who got stuck under a rock out in the wilderness since the number zero rule of wilderness is always telling somebody back in civilization where the hell you are going and when you will be back.
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Mar 28, 2017 16:16
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Dean of Swing posted:Your probs normal. serious, gently caress james franco
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Mar 28, 2017 16:18
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No,you shouldn't feel sympathy for him. He was young and dumb, and felt invincible. The book makes this very clear. The point is that as humans we live thinking we're the loving center of the universe, the protagonist in our own story, except nature is cruel and heartless. The movie is a turgid affair, and I'd rather starve to death in a bus in Alaska next to a rotting moose than watch it again.
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Mar 28, 2017 16:19
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this movie looked really dumb and bad
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Mar 28, 2017 16:20
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Reese Witherspoon was really good tho
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Mar 28, 2017 16:19
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Hardawn posted:Reese Witherspoon was really good tho i dont think i made it that far i was too aggrivated
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Mar 28, 2017 16:22
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moral of the story: nature doesnt care how much white guilt you have. nature hates sjws, basically. nature is part of the alt right.
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Mar 28, 2017 16:24
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That's Alexander Supertramp, the guy that was born when Christopher McCandless died.
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Mar 28, 2017 16:25
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spoilers: turns out the guy was dead the entire time
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Mar 28, 2017 16:26
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The movie seemed to completely miss the point of Krakauer's book.
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Mar 28, 2017 16:26
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You're kinda wrong, he didn't want to die, he hosed up a few times and that led to his death. He is certainly not the stupidest person to ever die in the woods alone, read the book I recommend it. For some people just being comfortable in life is not enough, but the vast majority of suburbanites will never understand this, all they want is to sit in front of the television and work a boring job their whole life and know where their next meal is coming from. The movie is pretty good imo, sean penn did a good job.
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Mar 28, 2017 16:28
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Hardawn posted:Reese Witherspoon was really good tho No, with a knife!
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Mar 28, 2017 16:28
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Already read the book, didn't need to waste money watching the movie.
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Mar 28, 2017 16:36
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spank my snatch posted:The movie seemed to completely miss the point of Krakauer's book. about all there is to say really
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Mar 28, 2017 16:37
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The Cubelodyte posted:Already read the book, didn't need to waste money watching the movie. This will lead to a long fulfilling life, though you will probably miss some reeses pieces.
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Mar 28, 2017 16:36
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I read the book and what I remember was he had a good enough family but was a huge prick and constantly distanced himself from people and then went out to Alaska and died of hubris/unnaturally heavy rainfall (or snowmelt?). Is that about the gist of it, climate change killed him because he was such an rear end in a top hat
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Mar 28, 2017 16:38
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It's funny op
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Mar 28, 2017 16:41
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He didn't sac enough rice
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Mar 28, 2017 16:43
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slicing up eyeballs posted:I read the book and what I remember was he had a good enough family but was a huge prick and constantly distanced himself from people and then went out to Alaska and died of hubris/unnaturally heavy rainfall (or snowmelt?). Is that about the gist of it, climate change killed him because he was such an rear end in a top hat It's really not about him. It could be anybody is the point. He is just an example of one type of hubris against nature, if that makes sense. It's the type of hubris that Krakauer was interested in with this book.
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Mar 28, 2017 16:45
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nigga crab pollock posted:the poison berries he ate were actually seeds from the wild potato plant which up until like 3 years ago were considered edible but some biochemist guy read his journal and figured out that the seeds were actually highly toxic with an alkaloid that prevents your body from metabolizing other proteins if you don't cook them Owned.
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Mar 28, 2017 16:56
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Oscar Wild posted:It's really not about him. It could be anybody is the point. He is just an example of one type of hubris against nature, if that makes sense. It's the type of hubris that Krakauer was interested in with this book. I must have forgotten that part of the book but to be fair I read it like a decade ago and have a very stupid brain, so I'm glad I got the narrative right at least.
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Mar 28, 2017 16:56
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nigga crab pollock posted:the poison berries he ate were actually seeds from the wild potato plant which up until like 3 years ago were considered edible but some biochemist guy read his journal and figured out that the seeds were actually highly toxic with an alkaloid that prevents your body from metabolizing other proteins if you don't cook them quote:As Krakauer points out, McCandless' field guide did not warn of any dangers of eating the seeds, which were not yet known to be toxic. Krakauer suspects this is the meaning of McCandless' journal entry of July 30, which states "EXTREMELY WEAK. FAULT OF POT[ATO] SEED. MUCH TROUBLE JUST TO STAND UP. STARVING. GREAT JEOPARDY."[23]
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Mar 28, 2017 16:58
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His dying thoughts were of a particularly good episode of Jeopardy? My man!
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Mar 28, 2017 16:59
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slicing up eyeballs posted:I must have forgotten that part of the book but to be fair I read it like a decade ago and have a very stupid brain, so I'm glad I got the narrative right at least. You have the literal story right,and those details are important. Krakauer wrote the story as a sort of there but for the grace of God go I.
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Mar 28, 2017 16:59
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Wait I thought this was the dude who got eaten by fuckin' bears, but he just ate some poison seeds? Weak as hell.
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Mar 28, 2017 17:00
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I am become wolf. 
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Mar 28, 2017 17:01
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I admire saying gently caress it and going out to live on your own but jesus gently caress christ do some research beforehand don't literally just have a rage fit and go into the woods knowing nothing with 0 preparation you maroon.
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Mar 28, 2017 17:01
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food court bailiff posted:Wait I thought this was the dude who got eaten by fuckin' bears, but he just ate some poison seeds? Weak as hell. Nah you're thinking of grizzly man by Werner Herzog which is a much more humanizing perspective on a similarly dumb person with an easily avoidable death
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Mar 28, 2017 17:03
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Moridin920 posted:I admire saying gently caress it and going out to live on your own but jesus gently caress christ do some research beforehand don't literally just have a rage fit and go into the woods knowing nothing with 0 preparation you maroon. What specifically should he have researched?
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Mar 28, 2017 17:05
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Ice Blue Mink posted:What specifically should he have researched? How make fire cook food
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Mar 28, 2017 17:06
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Ice Blue Mink posted:What specifically should he have researched? He should at least know the most common stuff that is FOR SURE safe to eat around the area because 1) he isn't the only person to ever go wilderness exploring where he was I'm sure and 2) ok people didn't realize those potato seeds or whatever were toxic but hey that's why you don't eat poo poo until you're 100% sure. There's a reason all the mushroom gathering guides have "DO NOT THINK YOU CAN IDENTIFY WHAT IS SAFE TO EAT AND WHAT IS NOT JUST BASED ON THIS BOOK" in giant block letters at the beginning. He should have hired a guide or something to at least get him oriented to what the flora and fauna in the area is.
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Mar 28, 2017 17:08
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Blue Train posted:How make fire cook food Yeah but even if he knew how to do that, there's no reason he would've cooked those potato seeds.
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Mar 28, 2017 17:08
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All the Alaskans who Krakauer talked too said the kid was a complete dumbass and he was all baffled and kinda indignant about it in the book, which was funny.
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Mar 28, 2017 17:09
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Yeah well you shouldn't eat raw food if you can at all help it that's definitely somewhere on the list of "poo poo you should know in the wilderness." Even if those seeds weren't toxic that's a great way to pick up some strange and exciting disease.
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Mar 28, 2017 17:09
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Ice Blue Mink posted:What specifically should he have researched? When to pull out, when to fold em and come back. " poo poo my supplies are low maybe I should hike out."
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Ice Blue Mink posted:What specifically should he have researched? Winter. The importance of maps. Not shrugging off a man who wants to buy you survival gear.
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