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I went on a real trip based on this book and the theories behind it and it was the stupidest thing I ever did
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Did he really go do it in winter ffs lol.
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Hardawn posted:When to pull out, when to fold em and come back. " poo poo my supplies are low maybe I should hike out." He tried. When the spring thaw came the frozen river he crossed coming in was an uncrossable raging rapid.
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Mar 28, 2017 17:13
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Kid made the oldest mistake in the book: running directly for Hyrule Castle without making any health-restoring food or completing any of the four Divine Beasts, which would've given him the edge he needed to defeat Ganon and not perish in a bus
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Toadvine posted:Nah you're thinking of grizzly man by Werner Herzog which is a much more humanizing perspective on a similarly dumb person with an easily avoidable death I get even angrier at the grizzly man guy, just because he apparently would bring his gf out to risk death by bear. He didn't deserve the extremely slow death he got though, sad poo poo Vincent Van Goatse posted:All the Alaskans who Krakauer talked too said the kid was a complete dumbass and he was all baffled and kinda indignant about it in the book, which was funny. Lmao, I forgot about this.
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Mar 28, 2017 17:19
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I really love Krakauer's writing but sometimes he has these weird moments where you can tell he wants something to mean something that it really, really doesn't mean. Like Into the Wild really wants to make McCandless into someone meaningful despite all accounts indicating he was a dumb rebellious pseudo-intellectual rich kid who probably had an undiagnosed mental disorder and who died doing because of doing something profoundly, impulsively stupid in the woods. Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Mar 28, 2017 |
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Mar 28, 2017 17:21
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VendaGoat posted:He tried. When the spring thaw came the frozen river he crossed coming in was an uncrossable raging rapid. Yeah, so something simple like food poisoning or eating bad berries, became deadly rather than a small problem. Even if he had told people where he was staying he might have died because he was so isolated. For lack of a nail a horse was lost, etc. Nature doesn't give a gently caress and needs to be respected. Humans have become so ensconced in easy comfort that we no longer fear or respect nature. It's why we get a couple of deaths every year from hikers on the Pacific Crest Trail. Even the pros can get their poo poo pushed in if they are arrogant, see the other Krakauer Into Thin Air.
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Mar 28, 2017 17:22
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Moridin920 posted:Did he really go do it in winter ffs lol. Lmbo
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Mar 28, 2017 17:23
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I'm a loving sheltered upper middle class kid with several diagnosed mental disorders and if I did what McCandless did I'd hope my obituary called me a loving dumbass instead of making me out to be some tortured wanderer. No, I did something really, basically stupid and I died from it.
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Mar 28, 2017 17:27
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What happened to the bus after ?
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he must have really chowed down on those seeds lol!
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Mar 28, 2017 17:29
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unpacked robinhood posted:What happened to the bus after ? still there IIRC and it will be until it rusts into little pieces you'd need a Sikorsky Skycrane to get it out of there
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Mar 28, 2017 17:31
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I'm a loving sheltered upper middle class kid with several diagnosed mental disorders and if I did what McCandless did I'd hope my obituary called me a loving dumbass instead of making me out to be some tortured wanderer. No, I did something really, basically stupid and I died from it. Krakauer never said he was a tortured wanderer. Other retards hung that label on him. Krakauer wasn't buying the moody wanderer poo poo, which is why the book had that long aside about Krakauer nearly dying in a cave on Denali smoking Klondike Thunderfuck
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Mar 28, 2017 17:33
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:still there IIRC and it will be until it rusts into little pieces I'm gonna take a road trip and piss on it
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Mar 28, 2017 17:33
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Oscar Wild posted:Krakauer never said he was a tortured wanderer. Other retards hung that label on him. Krakauer wasn't buying the moody wanderer poo poo, which is why the book had that long aside about Krakauer nearly dying in a cave on Denali smoking Klondike Thunderfuck It's been a long time since I read it and TBH I was thinking of one specific part where Krakauer gets a bit huffy that all the Alaskans just called the kid full stop stupid.
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Mar 28, 2017 17:39
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Ice Blue Mink posted:What specifically should he have researched? Vincent Van Goatse posted:Like Into the Wild really wants to make McCandless into someone meaningful despite all accounts indicating he was a dumb rebellious pseudo-intellectual rich kid who probably had an undiagnosed mental disorder and who died doing because of doing something profoundly, impulsively stupid in the woods.
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kierrie posted:You're kinda wrong, he didn't want to die, he hosed up a few times and that led to his death. He is certainly not the stupidest person to ever die in the woods alone, read the book I recommend it. Our ancestors literally spent thousands of years praying to a succession of uncaring, indifferent deities to somehow become 3% closer to having food security instead of dying from a variety of easily preventable causes, all of which can still happen the minute the ~~~adventurer~~~ does something so stupid that modern technology cannot compensate for it. Those rare individuals who really aren't comfortable living middle class lifestyles can always choose social work or, for the moderately psychopathic, grifting their way up Madoff style. The reason most of us can't understand people like this guy is because we aren't terminally dumb and/or don't have undiagnosed mental conditions. Vincent Van Goatse posted:I'm a loving sheltered upper middle class kid with several diagnosed mental disorders and if I did what McCandless did I'd hope my obituary called me a loving dumbass instead of making me out to be some tortured wanderer. No, I did something really, basically stupid and I died from it. basically this Dean of Swing posted:Winter. and this Moridin920 posted:He should at least know the most common stuff that is FOR SURE safe to eat around the area because 1) he isn't the only person to ever go wilderness exploring where he was I'm sure and 2) ok people didn't realize those potato seeds or whatever were toxic but hey that's why you don't eat poo poo until you're 100% sure. his epic quest specifically included eating toadstools to get high* *either that or he didn't know a red mushroom with white spots on the cap is a toadstool in which case, good luck with the whole trying to live thing wilderness friend Adar fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Mar 28, 2017 |
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Mar 28, 2017 17:41
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Anyone else laughed when the pothead retard blonde kid gets dusted in The Beach (2000) ?
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His family life was pretty messed up. He found out his father had a whole second life, which is why he distanced himself from him.
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Mar 28, 2017 17:47
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Since we are expressing opinions on McCandless I can sympathize with the need/want to go on an adventure and have a quest of self discovery. I can also feel that wandering into one of the harshest loving environments in the northern hemisphere, without doing your due diligence is loving colossal hubris. A .22 rifle, a few pounds of rice, a guidebook and some basic camping gear in Alaska. That's just loving stupid. I enjoyed the portion of his journey when he was just wandering around the country, bumming through the wilderness. That was an interesting portion. Even when he abandoned his car in the desert and hoofed it out, I thought it was just a minor bump in the road of a young man finding out who he is. Pride killed him, it wasn't the wilderness. Stupid, bull headed, pride.
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Mar 28, 2017 17:50
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ProSlayer posted:His family life was pretty messed up. He found out his father had a whole second life, which is why he distanced himself from him. Who cares
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Mar 28, 2017 17:51
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*into the wild guy voice* Oh my god these potato seeds are so good! Sheila come over here you have to try these seeds!!! (sheila is a squirrel)
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Mar 28, 2017 17:54
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spank my snatch posted:The movie seemed to completely miss the point of Krakauer's book. Was the point of Krakauer's book what an awesome survivalist Krakauer is and how the rest of you weekend warriors deserve what's coming to you?
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Mar 28, 2017 17:56
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Warm und Fuzzy posted:Was the point of Krakauer's book what an awesome survivalist Krakauer is and how the rest of you weekend warriors deserve what's coming to you? Hard to argue with that tbh
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Mar 28, 2017 17:56
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Warm und Fuzzy posted:Was the point of Krakauer's book what an awesome survivalist Krakauer is and how the rest of you weekend warriors deserve what's coming to you? You should show that big stuck up know it all what a jerk he is by wandering into the Alaskan wilderness with nothing but a copy of Walden and an out of date book about seeds.
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Mar 28, 2017 18:01
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kierrie posted:You're kinda wrong, he didn't want to die, he hosed up a few times and that led to his death. He is certainly not the stupidest person to ever die in the woods alone, read the book I recommend it. yeah but it seemed like he had planned for a while to go off the grid, he couldve saved his parents Harvard tuition since he clearly didnt intend to do jack poo poo with his ivy league loving degree. i want to punch his dead face
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Mar 28, 2017 18:05
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spank my snatch posted:Virtually anything on wilderness survival. His research consisted of being a big Thoreau fan and that's about it. Probably one of the worst people to hold up as an example of a survivalist
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Adar posted:
Lol again at mccandless but this article is pretty damning against Krakauer, I didn't realize he'd made up so much poo poo in the book.
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that guy is a chump, watch this guys movie instead. walks into Alaskan wilderness with a backpack full of metal hand tools, and builds a log cabin to live in for 30 years: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYJKd0rkKss
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JiveHonky posted:yeah but it seemed like he had planned for a while to go off the grid, he couldve saved his parents Harvard tuition since he clearly didnt intend to do jack poo poo with his ivy league loving degree. The op got that wrong; he actually went to Emory. There's one section in the book where Krakauer talks about Lenin's early life iirc, and how he went on similar adventures to Supertramp here. Everybody makes mistakes sometimes in wilderness settings, and you learn from those mistakes what not to do. Most of the time, it's not fatal. Not that he wasn't ill prepared for what he did, but I think that was part of what he was after - he knew he was poorly prepared, and he figured he'd make do anyway by learning as he went.
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Rutibex posted:that guy is a chump, watch this guys movie instead. walks into Alaskan wilderness with a backpack full of metal hand tools, and builds a log cabin to live in for 30 years: this guy owns really hard not quite as hard as this guy though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRxDsvPAG2w ROFLburger fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Mar 28, 2017 |
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Mar 28, 2017 18:25
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I thought this was about the movie "Without a Paddle", lol I like that guy who liked bears and made bear suits and then went to live among the bears and was killed by the bears I don't feel sorry for people eaten by animals who thought they were going to be Uncle Remus with a bluebird on their shoulder. Nature gives no fucks.
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us vs also us posted:*into the wild guy voice* Oh my god these potato seeds are so good! Sheila come over here you have to try these seeds!!! (sheila is a squirrel) The squirrel knows not to eat the seeds because they are poison
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op you're right the guy the movie was based on was a huge dummo
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Mar 28, 2017 18:34
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Ice Blue Mink posted:What specifically should he have researched? There was an aid station not five miles from McCandless' camp, if he had brought a map or knew his own orientation he could have trudged to it and likely saved his life. Basically it's cool that he wanted to withdraw from his own sheltered upbringing and live a new life, but ironically his own sheltered upbringing blinded himself to the real actual challenges of living out in the wilderness and he paid the ultimate price for it. The end.
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Oscar Wild posted:Nature doesn't give a gently caress and needs to be respected. Humans have become so ensconced in easy comfort that we no longer fear or respect nature. It's why we get a couple of deaths every year from hikers on the Pacific Crest Trail. Even the pros can get their poo poo pushed in if they are arrogant, see the other Krakauer Into Thin Air. Dude I get amazed at the amount of idiots that will go up to wild rear end animals like they are a pet doggie. like holy poo poo I'm not some outdoors person at all but even I know not to go try and pet something that can kill me
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If he would have gone gay for bears he would have been able to last the winter next to a warm fuzzy tummy.
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dumbos in La Jolla complaining about the sea lions attacking them when they get close it's like yeah idiot they're wild animals lmao
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Moridin920 posted:Dude I get amazed at the amount of idiots that will go up to wild rear end animals like they are a pet doggie. Yellowstone buffalo. It's astounding what people will do to a half of ton of animal.
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Bison can run 45mph and jump 8ft in the air They usually don't but this is why they can't be domesticated. They look pretty calm... when you leave them alone.
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