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read the book. the guy seems a lot more complex than i suppose any 2 or 3 hour movie can show. and of course the movie will want to have a definite narrative a lot more than an extended piece of journalism, which is what the book tries to be. what he did wasn't the smartest thing in the world, but i don't think he's immediately condemnable. or, if you want a movie that genuinely complexifies a complex case of this kind, watch grizzly man.
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Mar 28, 2017 18:59
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one of my friends went to go to that bus in the story and they were a few days off from returning so their parents an family called them missing and they sent a rescue force to help them but they really didnt need it and was on the way back and jezebel.com wrote an article about them being dumb white men
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Mar 28, 2017 19:00
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quote:what he did wasn't the smartest thing in the world, but i don't think he's immediately condemnable. I don't think he's condemnable, I just think he did a really foolish thing and I pity his family (I'd say I pity him but he's dead) but I feel like it's natural to also find morbid humor in the situation. It's like when someone hurts themselves and you laugh.
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nomadologique posted:read the book. the guy seems a lot more complex than i suppose any 2 or 3 hour movie can show. and of course the movie will want to have a definite narrative a lot more than an extended piece of journalism, which is what the book tries to be. the book was essentially made up on the spot because the crazy man's journal it's based on averaged three words per day of writing that was tainted by the onset of paranoid schizophrenia and/or eating fly agaric to get his buzz on also the crazy man wanted to get from here https://www.google.com/maps/place/C...!4d-149.7690582 to here https://www.google.com/maps/place/U...!4d-160.7993317 without a detailed map or supplies
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Adar posted:the book was essentially made up on the spot because the crazy man's journal it's based on averaged three words per day of writing that was tainted by the onset of paranoid schizophrenia and/or eating fly agaric to get his buzz on So that's Denali National Park? In winter?  ... I didn't read the book but uh did this dude have a death wish or what? 'Cuz there are easier ways to kill yourself.
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Mar 28, 2017 19:07
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If those idiot cave men from a hundred years ago could do it it will be easy as poo poo for me, priveleged white man
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Mar 28, 2017 19:07
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people who have death wishes often are not direct about it.
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Mar 28, 2017 19:15
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and yes, he probably had a death wish, which immediately makes this story more complex than "kid was dumb."
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Mar 28, 2017 19:15
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what if you went into the story thinking he got more or less exactly what he was hoping for? is that a story worth mulling over?
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Mar 28, 2017 19:16
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Vice has a good documentary about some dude and his wife who have lived in a cabin in the Alaskan wilderness for the past 30 years. It's especially memorable because the Vice dudes start out in their skinny jeans and perfectly manicured undercuts prepared to be all like "look at this weirdo lmao" but by the end are visibly moved by his perspective and reasons for living on his own.
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Mar 28, 2017 19:17
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Adar posted:the book was essentially made up on the spot because the crazy man's journal it's based on averaged three words per day of writing that was tainted by the onset of paranoid schizophrenia and/or eating fly agaric to get his buzz on there is plenty about him before he reaches alaska, derived from people who met him and lived around him for months, which gives some idea of what he was up to. that's the bulk of the book, as i recall. the wilderness stuff would have had to be made up. we do get some idea of who this person might have been, which is what it's really about, not entirely about the facts but about the person living them. no we can't separate those facts from the person, but we are trying to see him amidst them.
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Mar 28, 2017 19:18
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I'm mentally ill and i am going to do this. Tips?
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Mar 28, 2017 20:36
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Adar posted:the book was essentially made up on the spot because the crazy man's journal it's based on averaged three words per day of writing that was tainted by the onset of paranoid schizophrenia and/or eating fly agaric to get his buzz on To be fair, once he got to the coast he just had to avoid falling in the water to get to Unalakleet.
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Mar 28, 2017 20:38
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I think a lot of people are taking the Krakauer book and the movie as gospel. A few years back the McCandless family finally released details about Chris and Corrine's upbringings that were only touched upon in the books. Corrine (his sister) wrote a book titled "The Wild Truth" which makes everything come together. (related article: http://www.cpr.org/news/story/chris-mccandless-sisters-explain-why-he-went-wild ) There's also a theory that he didn't die from the potato seeds, but instead from a fungus they were contaminated with. Most healthy people would have survived but he couldn't due to being malnourihed. I wouldn't wish his childhood on anyone, and I respect his decision to try to find out what life was about. Unfortunately, he only learned that the whole world hates you and is actively trying to kill you most of the time.
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Mar 28, 2017 20:40
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Erostratus posted:I'm mentally ill and i am going to do this. Tips? step 1: prepare mentally and physically for months step 2: die in a bus anyway
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Erostratus posted:I'm mentally ill and i am going to do this. Tips? I saw your E/N thread and out of respect for the people with very real problems I haven't posted there but YOU SIR ARE AN IDIOT
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Secular Humanist posted:step 1: prepare mentally and physically for months step 1.5: bring a cart 
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cool new Polack jokes posted:I saw your E/N thread and out of respect for the people with very real problems I haven't posted there but YOU SIR ARE AN IDIOT 
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Mar 28, 2017 21:48
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I'm mentally ill and I'm looking into an extended suicide starting with wandering off into the woods, any pointers? -an attention whore who should be ashamed of themselves
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Mar 28, 2017 22:00
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If suicide is the end game you can skip the extended part, I can assure you nobody cares
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Mar 28, 2017 22:01
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empathy is for losers , i relate to all my fellow man by belittling them
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Mar 28, 2017 22:02
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When I'm in a tough spot in my life and needing guidance where's the first place I go? That's right. GBS.
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Mar 28, 2017 22:04
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White Rock posted:empathy is for losers , i relate to all my fellow man by belittling them then read this great thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3807345
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Mar 28, 2017 22:04
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Remember that girl who drowned trying to get to the bus? Say what you will about McCandless, but dying just so you could see where the dude went has got to be worse.
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Mar 28, 2017 22:11
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Erostratus posted:I'm mentally ill and i am going to do this. Tips? Try the potato seeds! 
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cool new Polack jokes posted:When I'm in a tough spot in my life and needing guidance where's the first place I go? So you're saying i should pack more toadstools?
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I'm saying if you're privileged enough to be able bodied and able minded (you are not mentally disabled like some people, you are mentally ill like literally everybody else) then you should take this amazing piece of luck and loving run with it instead of imploding like someone who DOESN'T have built in support structures they've completely taken for granted or supportive people they've alienated themselves from by being a jagoff. You are wasted potential and nobody should feel sorry for your waste of a brain and body when there are millions of people who would trade places with you to be a brokebrained idiot in the richest land that has ever been known gently caress you. e: I'm "mentally ill" and I know this because I want to smash your loving face with a sledgehammer when I read your "I wonder if dental floss will support my body weight" type posts instead of just pitying you like a sucker would Harold Stassen fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Mar 28, 2017 |
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Mar 28, 2017 22:15
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The EN thread is pretty cool light reading
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unpacked robinhood posted:The EN thread is pretty cool light reading its p funny actually He's going to join up with a gang of crust punks 
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Erostratus posted:I'm mentally ill and i am going to do this. Tips? go back to your own thread.
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Do I get banned if that guy whacks himself?  That is literally the worst case scenario for all involved
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The ending of Into the Wild only instead of death hallucinations about his family it will be about goons getting banned en masse.
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"gently caress it!" brb, going homeless
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I love showing this film to my older classes. They generally can't believe he goes off alone and dies like a chump.
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Andrew_1985 posted:I love showing this film to my older classes. They generally can't believe he goes off alone and dies like a chump. I'm curious if by "older classes" you mean old people and you think that like millennials would not have this reaction to the film or something??
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Just lol if you want to work for a living and not spend every waking moment talking to aliens while smoking dmt. I have enough rice and ayahuasca bro, I think I got this.
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Space farting aliens
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Mar 28, 2017 22:42
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i think it's kinda sad that a guy tried something he thought he would like and died 
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us vs also us posted:I'm curious if by "older classes" you mean old people and you think that like millennials would not have this reaction to the film or something?? 16/17/18 yos
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