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skeletonotherkin
Sep 26, 2014

nigga crab pollock posted:

FRIENDS is set up almost exactly like seinfeld except it doesnt attempt anything but the most milquetoast of sitcom motions. i know seinfeld is technically about nothing but thats the core of it's subversion. theres a mutual understanding between the viewers and creators about what the show is about. in friends though this relationship is nonexistent, the show is a by-the-numbers sitcom using the sensibilities of network television circa 2002.

most of the characters are straight up narcissists who if they were your actual friends you would loving hate them. it follows the basic sitcom setup of "i want thing. i am going to screw my friends over for thing. oh no the nature of thing is not what i thought, and i also screwed over friend!! what am i going to do? i am going to double-down and make the situation worse" except this is not the core joke, like seinfeld, its just a necessity of the serial television medium

the lovely thing with friends though is that even tho its just another sitcom thats passively pouring someone else's value system straight into your skull its flashy production values and insane popularity pretends that it has some measure of relatability and emotional depth to it when its literally just Full House


nigga crab pollock posted:

FRIENDS might have done more damage to society than anyone can possibly imagine

the people i know that are FRIENDS fans are all insanely bad at interpersonal relationships because they do things purely through a sense of 'what they are supposed to do' like their entire personality complex is dictated by what society deems acceptable. i guess you could call them sheeple but i dont care about flouride in drinking water im just talking about the way they act in response to stimuli - they respond with behaviors learned from watching other people except they have not learned those behaviors from real people they have learned them from television. i mean thats like core human nature if you aren't autistic but the subtle difference is that the people on a television screen are not actually people - they are actors playing fictional characters

FRIENDS fans are like, hosed up broken people

So its basically an unfunny version of Its Always Sunny, and the fan base doesn't understand that they shouldn't be emulating the cast? I could never stand to sit through more than five minutes of Friends, so I never had a good understanding of the characters and/or plot. There was just something there that I immediately found off putting.

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