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Started watching after seeing a banner ad. Money well spent Hired Goons. Gotta go with: B2F feels the best put together, and I can see in my head exactly how it goes down. DC... I'm not on Team Warcrimes, but the car wash strike seems like a happy middle ground, and I admit I am interested in seeing the fallout.
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# ¿ Mar 30, 2019 00:07 |
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# ¿ May 6, 2024 06:19 |
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Dr. Snark posted:So we're now reenacting Ace Combat 7 We have better branding. Sponsored by Bud Light, official beer of tanker crews everywhere. CourValant posted:Great Update as always, Yooper! He said the tanks seem to be missing something, goons joked about drone tanks and hiring pro-gamers to drive them, and then Yooper came back. Yooper posted:You guys have no idea how close this is to what's happening...
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2019 22:27 |
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So we're in Ender's Game?
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2019 00:20 |
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FrangibleCover posted:Strike the airfield This is where I'm at. Chasing tanks that don't have morale to break sounds dumb, and going after the internet driving the tanks when we don't know exactly how much internet we can get away with wrecking is also dumb. My only question about the airfield is if we have the right ordinance and airframes to perform the necessary SEAD to get in and also wreck the runway. Killing pilots and wrecking airframes is good, but if for whatever reason we can't fully wreck the base, we need to at least be able to gently caress up the runway to make the trip worth it and deny ROMARM an airfield. So, ultimately, airfield.
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2019 01:01 |
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FrangibleCover posted:Other way around. You can repair a cratered runway in 48 hours. You probably need a week or so to print and assemble an aircraft. You need six months to get a decent fighter pilot. Bombing runways without immediate intent to follow up with a major air/ground offensive is a total waste of time and I don't really see us being in a position to do that right now. Honestly I had no idea what the turnaround time would be, but I also live in Michigan so my concept of how quickly someone can repair a runway-length stretch of concrete is skewed by our road commission (which is definitely not a corps of combat engineers). In that case.... Radio Free Kobold posted:the major threat from an aifrield is the planes. that means we should attack the planes. These are, after all, mercs. They grew up watching Top Gun. Whether or not the stereotype holds true for real military pilots, it absolutely holds true for these kids.
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2019 04:20 |
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FrangibleCover posted:Honestly what I want most is more info. I think using the Cadets as a recon force and JTAC element is going to be the best option, especially if we go on a cloudy day and can use Mycroft to drop laser guided weapons through cloud cover (needs testing). That's going to protect us against any air defences without a radar which is pretty worthwhile. I'm going either way on this. The F-35's are the canaries for our coal The cadets are less random, especially if they can paint targets. The problem is they're just kids. High probability of loving something up, and higher probability of getting hosed up in the process. Either way, the Power Plant is on my target list. Yooper do the significant disruptions include causing problems for ROMARM during this operation? And what would the estimated impact on the civilian population be if the plant was taken out of commission?
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2019 22:50 |
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Yooper posted:The cadets, regardless, will have eyeballs on the airfield. Mycroft Holmes is advising and still has an HG issued JTAC radio. Unfortunately the stuff we really want to kill is hidden pretty well right now. Then my vote is cadets. Easier to kill pilots when you know where they are rather than just guessing. The power station can be discussed more in the actual planning.
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2019 00:06 |
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In the spirit of Hired Goons, I have no idea what I am doing. The following is merely to provide a rough outline of an operation with the express purpose of killing as many enemy pilots as possible. Based on the intel provided, I've shifted from using the Cadets to procuring a BVR missile to deal with SA-2 radars. Operation Goose Assets: Hired Goons – CAP, SEAD, and Airstrike Diamond Team Five – Sabotage Adnan’s Place – Walleye procurement Goals: • Reduction of OPFOR human assets • Reduction of OPFOR support assets Primary mission objective is to kill or incapacitate as many pilots and ground crews as possible. As airframes and material assets are difficult to interdict, reduction of human assets is the most effective method of reducing OPFOR mission capability and securing air superiority. Secondary objective is to remove support materials necessary to conduct flight operations. Target Priority is as follows: Barracks/Housing > Fuel > Maintenance Buildings > Ammunition Stores > Airframes > Else Pre-Op DT5 are given the authority to commit to their own operation with the objective of disrupting enemy air crews. Command expresses preference to any operation that leaves pilots dead, maimed, bruised, or otherwise incapacitated. Airboss Flight Saab, Atlantique, launch as support to provide AWACS and ground target identification respectively. Deploy refueling aircraft as needed to maintain air presence throughout the operation. Bullfighter Flag – EA-6B (ECM focused loadout) Sword – 2x A-6E (4x AGM-62B Walleye II ER/DL, 1x AN/AWW-9 Datalink Pod) Bullfighter will target enemy air defense radar, lead by Flag and followed by Sword. Flag will use ECM to disrupt enemy radar and provide opportunity for Sword to take out enemy radar with Adnan’s Walleye missiles. Once SEAD operation has completed, ECM is to join Airboss flight, and any aircraft with remaining missiles are to join with Iceman flight and attack targets of opportunity based on mission parameters. Iceman 4x F-16DG (2x AIM-9, bombs to taste on the remaining points) 2x A-6E (Bombs, 2000lb if we can, GBU-12s otherwise.) Iceman flight is to bomb airport facilities according to the target priority. They are to remain above 1.5km unless necessary to drop their payloads, to remain out of AAA range. A-6E will RTB once Winchester. F-16s are to join the CAP after dropping their bombs. Mavrick 6x Mirage 2000C (Super R.530F, or whatever we have for CAP) Escort Bullfighter to the edge of the SAM engagement zone, and establish CAP to prevent enemy air elements from disrupting strike operations or attacking support aircraft. They are to engage any aircraft that take off from Gorna before, during, or after strike operations, until Winchester. Anti-aircraft assets are to be retained at base to cover landing. If the Saab and Atlantique can do their thing from under our SAM umbrella, all the better, stick Airboss flight there. If not, the F-16s can protect them once they finish their bombing runs.
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2019 04:40 |
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FrangibleCover posted:Goose, on the condition that we don't use that terrifying picture as the op banner. tbh it wasn't what I was intending to reference, but letting loose rabid geese on the enemy pilots would also tickle my fancy, so I'm warming up to it
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2019 18:33 |
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wiegieman posted:Anything is airdroppable, once. I'd like to swap my A-6 loadouts to 2000lbs of geese tia
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2019 19:27 |
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Radio Free Kobold posted:
That's the goal of the op.
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2019 23:28 |
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I did realize, upon review, that I forgot to take the drones into account. If it isn't too late Yooper, can the drones be added to Bullfighter with a ground attack loadout. The Mk82 probably isn't big enough for the primary objective of inflicting large amounts of loss of life on the base, so load them with Brimstones and have them hunt AAA after the Walleyes do their job, to make the ground attack safer.
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2019 03:55 |
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Back in business! Now lets see what-- --South. Would rather be under friendly air umbrella when ROMARM comes sniffing around.
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# ¿ May 8, 2019 04:22 |
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Yooper posted:The status of the merchant marine in the Black Sea. In light of this, can we reasonably explore further options to disrupt ROMARM oversea logistics in the region?
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# ¿ May 9, 2019 23:44 |
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Can't tell you how happy I was to see this pop to the top of my bookmarks. Cheers to your health and to a very fun thread. Only regret was finding it and joining so late in the game.
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2019 03:10 |
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HereticMIND posted:Bravo! Well done! Shame to see this ride end, but it was still good times all around!
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2019 18:05 |
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Hayard Gunnes rides again!
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2019 19:48 |
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Once we're ready to roll, I'll submit my actual pilot this time. Seriously, I'm so pumped this is coming back. I was so sad that I joined right before the final mission.
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2019 23:58 |
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I can't say I really mind hearing Bac's opinions. I really don't know enough of this game, so getting a crunch analysis that points out pitfalls might save my bacon. It didn't stop me in Operation Goose, of course. But I was 100% flying by the seat of my pants planning that op and tbh I'm surprised anyone voted for it. Basically, three things come into consideration when I vote on procurement: My own preconceived notions of what planes I want to play with, well written informative posts like xthetenth posted for the Shackleton, and posts like Bac's that get down to the nitty gritty of what we can realistically do with our flying trashcans. Balancing all three of these, I gotta go with Klaus for this first round. power crystals posted:See I think that's the problem--I liked Stealth. It is a wildly, egregiously stupid movie. But that's the appeal. Not anymore. Also, Warmachine had only just started with Hired Goons before the troubles began--the contract ink had barely dried. So consider him back on alert as both pilot and planner.
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2019 01:18 |
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Yooper posted:Matrix has been doing a rolling Q&A about CMO. I'm particularly excited about this one : I'm always stoked to have more planning tools to gently caress with and account for.
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2019 16:48 |
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Hard choice between Hornet and Jabberwocky. I feel like Sarawak has more opportunity for things to get ridiculous, but I'd like to see where currying favor with the fleet gets us, so Hornet Homeboy.
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# ¿ Sep 26, 2019 04:12 |
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power crystals posted:Level One (That's a vote for Level 1 btw)
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# ¿ Sep 27, 2019 03:37 |
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RandomPauI posted:Why not save the "we're back to make everything blow up" for a mission where we'll get paid to blow stuff up? Yooper can finance division tell us if there is anything on offer for also loving with their airport?
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2019 21:15 |
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I mean, after the Twitter post, I really wish we'd gone with Broadstreet and made the mission a straight up attack run on the airfield. Shoot down the F-18? Ah well, hindsight and all that. I know what I'm voting for when the time comes unless something more salacious than attacking the airfield comes up.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2019 16:47 |
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Yooper posted:Just before everyone starts planning for this, the PIA is an invite only trade organization for Pakistani nationals involved in the local 3DP / PMC market. Unfortunately we're unable to become members. A minor setback. We need only find one who is... agreeable to our false-flag-fraud. Surely there is an enterprising PIA member that is interested in splitting the low-effort bounty with us.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2019 21:18 |
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Door Knocker, because if you're gonna do something, do it with style.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2019 16:49 |
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The Cheetahs' impromptu BARCAP made the Hornet's flight a milk run. Shame about our guys, but of the five losses, the pilots probably survived four of them. My favorite part was the F-104's realizing their runway was getting bombed and suddenly starting to turn around after the Cheetahs popped up over the ridgeline. Shame we didn't get it. From how thick the bogeys were after the bombing run, if we'd taken out the runway we'd have been going home early because all their planes would be stuck on the ground. Did the Drakens fly out of Shamsi? Or was there another runway further east causing trouble? All in all, a good show. The world knows we're back.
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# ¿ Oct 13, 2019 09:15 |
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Grumio posted:I can understand wanting to get more players/pilots a chance to fly, but a 1-turn lifespan does seem pretty short. Yeah, I don't think hoarding F-15Es or lucking our way into the kinds of situations that make us super risk averse are going to happen when we're limited to picking over the boneyard rejects for airframes. I'd almost say scrap the one-and-done rule altogether. Let our J-7's become legendary Chinese knockoffs. Admittedly, I started participating very late in the LP, so I may not have seen the worst of this behavior.
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2019 22:18 |
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Night10194 posted:I just want the lovely radar plane to live forever until it dies gloriously to a missile or bullet like God intended. Let us keep it and keep upgrading and tinkering with it until it's the Hayard Guunes equivalent of the Millennium Falcon. "That thing's a hunk of junk!" "That hunk of junk will detect a mosquito from 200 miles out."
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2019 22:27 |
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Dr. Snark posted:I do love the mental image of slapping so many parts/electronics onto the drat thing to the point where it's completely unusable by anyone who isn't a part of HG. Don't know how that would work mechanically, but it'd be great. Which of course it would because why would we spend money on a better breaker panel? edit: as a side note, its this kind of stuff that drew me into this LP. It's like... D&D for military aviation grogs. CMANO is just the dice.
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2019 23:28 |
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Kodos666 posted:well, apart from being made from corrugated sheet-metal like the shed in your backyard. Feature not bug.
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# ¿ Oct 16, 2019 21:23 |
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FrangibleCover posted:Can everything but the Shackleton
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2019 22:17 |
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Willy seems like the best choice for doing what I normally like to do, but the Ivanov package is so intriguing from the "variety of toys" perspective. I suspect it'll be down to these two, so I'm voting Ivanov to get me some sweet rotary wing aircraft. Lets have fun with some stupid fiddly helicopters and those gorgeous MiG-29s.
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2019 00:35 |
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Bacarruda posted:Willy This is pretty much the same conclusion I came to when reviewing the packages. I ended up voting how I did purely based on the novelty of Ivanov. Overall I thought Willy had the better package, but MiG-29s and gunships have a special place in my heart. For what it is worth, if ranked choice voting is a thing in Hayard Gunnes, Willy is my second choice.
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# ¿ Oct 21, 2019 16:29 |
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Reiterpallasch posted:gently caress rhino poachers. Dumbo or (for the strategic no-hope vote) Nile Pile. This is my order of preference as well. Dumbo can even have a "Gunships for Good" angle that the PR department can spin.
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2019 03:27 |
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Hobo on Fire posted:Also agreeing that we shouldn't use up our Lightnings and Fulcrums just to kill some hapless infantry. That said... Once we get to choosing our recon, I'm probably going to recommend a higher recon level than usual. If it's a bunch of groundpounders, there's no issue, but I'd hate to run into some surprise 3DP trashcans. Or at the very least, have them sit alert if we do need surprise interception.
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2019 04:06 |
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A flyover like this shouldn't produce too much alarm, since I presume we can make it look like a bog standard tourist safari flight. Those are common enough right? We've got "no planes" on the menu, sure. But I've played enough Shadowrun to know when someone claims a job is a milk run, it ain't gonna be a milk run. Changing my vote after reading Radio Free Kobold's post. Level 3. I was being conservative at first, but if I can have my intel cake and eat it too, I'm gonna take it. Warmachine fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Oct 25, 2019 |
# ¿ Oct 25, 2019 18:37 |
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Am I right in presuming that the drone launchers are located within the drone patrol areas? Regarding our three-letter agency, if they're unwilling to provide further details regarding the who-what-why, then they don't need our help. I'm not in favor of doing the CIA's warcrimes for them. They can either provide sufficient justification, or go find someone without scruples to go shoot at civilians.
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# ¿ Oct 27, 2019 00:09 |
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I did notice that the Hinds have a troop loadout... Yooper can we utilize this, or do we not have access to infantry for our missions? They'd be great for taking out or suppressing MANPADs. Also, is there a place outside CMANO that I can fiddle with loadouts? cmano-db doesn't go into detail about hardpoints and capacity, and I'd like to be more specific than "loadout appropriate for scope" in my plan. (I think I asked this in Operation Goose, but I still ended up scratching my head.)
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# ¿ Oct 27, 2019 04:15 |
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# ¿ May 6, 2024 06:19 |
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PROPOSAL: OBJECTIVES: Neutralize UAV launch capabilities. Neutralize southern collection points. Neutralize hostile reinforcements. Provide CAS to rangers at RANGER OBJECTIVE. GROUPS: Firewatch 1: Shackleton at Maun - Recon Firewatch 2: IAI-201 at Ghanzi - Recon Firewatch 3: IAI-201 at Francistown - Recon Lion: 2x Mi-24P - Ground Attack/Recon Lioness: 2x Mi-24P - Ground Attack/Recon Gopher: 2x MiG-29 - Multirole - 4x FAB-500M-54 GPB, 4x AA-11 Archer (R-73) Heyena 1: 2x Su-17M-2 - Ground Attack - 2x AS-10 Karen Heyena 2: 2x Su-17M-2 - Ground Attack - Heyena 3: 2x Su-17M-2 - Ground Attack - Ready 5: 2x Lightning, based at each airport - Air Superiority MISSION PLAN: Firewatch launch from respective bases and take up patrols. Firewatch 1 patrols south of Maun, Firewatch 2 NW of AREA 1, and Firewatch 3 NE of AREA 3. Firewatch should be able to identify ground targets and potentially even locate drone launch sites. If hostile armed aircraft are detected, Firewatch 2 and 3 are to evade and egress south. Lion and Lioness will launch at the same time as Firewatch, and proceed to AREA 2 and AREA 3. Lion and Lioness will deploy heliborn infantry Simba and Nala to their respective area, and these ground forces will engage in suppression of enemy MANPAD assets. Heyena 1 and Gopher will launch from Maun and proceed directly to AREA 1, followed by Heyena 2 and Heyena 3 which will proceed to patrol over AREA 2 and AREA 3 respectively. Heyena 1, Lion, and Lioness will engage with priority to take out the drone truck. Heyena 2, 3 and Gopher are to attack targets of opportunity. Once drone trucks are destroyed, fixed wing assets will converge on OUTPOSTS and destroy targets of opportunity. Lion and Lioness will extract Simba and Nala, and processed northeast to RANGER OBJECTIVE. Lion and Lioness are to deploy Simba and Nala along expected Volunteer reinforcement paths, and support ground forces in securing RANGER OBJECTIVE and eliminating hostile reinforcements. Once OUTPOSTS are neutralized, fixed wing assets will proceed northeast to support Lion and Lioness. Gopher will remain on station as escort for Firewatch 3 after A2G winchester until bingo. Heyena 1, 2, and 3 will RTB when winchester. Ready 5 will sortie if hostile aircraft are detected. They are staggered to support simultaneous launch without clogging the runway. Flights may be reassigned to objectives as necessary, depending on target concentration. SPECIAL CONDITION 1 - CIA INTERFERENCE: If CIA OBJECTIVE appears, it is to be marked as neutral and tracked by ELINT aircraft. Any aircraft on intercept course for CIA OBJECTVE should also be tracked as neutral, and Ready 5 aircraft at Ghanzi launched to set up BARCAP along Northwest boarder. At this point, any military aircraft threatening to violate the BARCAP are to be warned away, and if they continue to violate the airspace, marked as hostile and remaining Ready 5 aircraft scrambled. I don't trust the CIA, and in a perfect world where I didn't have to worry about the consequences, I'd go piss in their Cheerios to satisfy my own pride. Since that would be classified as "irresponsible" by the powers that be, any signatures and information gathered by ELINT and Ready 5 aircraft should be recorded and anaylized to figure out what the spooks are up to. If troop assets are authorized for Mi-24P, Lion and Lioness will deploy troop assets to AREA 2 and AREA 3 before beginning combat operations to destroy drone trucks. Designate troop assets Simba and Nala, they are to provide ground intelligence support to Lion and Lioness, and engage and suppress enemy MANPAD units. Once drone trucks are destroyed, Lion and Lioness will extract Simba and Nala, and proceed directly to intercept Volunteer reinforcements, and will not assist in OUTPOSTS attack. Troops will be redeployed to intercept reinforcements headed to RANGER OBJECTIVE along their expected attack route. SPECIAL CONDITION 2 has been approved and rolled into main operation plan. SPECIAL CONDITION 3 - PRC ESCALATION: In the event of larger-than-expected escalation of Volunteer reinforcements, all assets engaged with OUTPOSTS attack will immediately break off and begin operations to suppress Volunteer reinforcements. Ready 5 aircraft will launch at this time to secure air superiority over RANGER OBJECTIVE. This is an unlikely case, but one I feel the need to explicity plan for. Numbers on what is across the northern boarder seem sparse from the intel reports, and I'm sure the PRC would love to ruin our party. Warmachine fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Oct 29, 2019 |
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