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 Strike Command : The Commandering  Strike Commander was released by Chris Roberts in 1993 to much acclaim and some total radness. The entire premise revolved around you using your F16's to fly mercenary missions while keeping the books balanced. You go to do awesome stuff like visit people on your base and choose weapons loadouts and fly missions in a pixelated landscapes.  Command : Modern Air Naval Operations (CMANO) is published by WarfareSims and models modern air and naval combat unlike anything else on the market. It simulates radar, flight mechanics, weapons performance, thermal ocean layering, and drat near anything that could impact combat operations. It's kind of groggy but also pretty drat approachable. We've got everything from 1946 Wildcats to hypothetical Chinese stealth fighters. Want boats? We got it. Want submarines? gently caress yah. Want an obscure Chilean helicopter from 1964? It's probably there. This Let's Play is Strike Commander in theme but CMANO as our engine. You won't be flying the jets. You'll be telling a squadron of mish mashed poo poo where to fly, what to bomb, and how to do it. On top of that you'll be choosing our financials. Do we buy those used Egyptian MIG-23's for a song or do we save up for some old F-18's? You'll need some ground and support units, and of course, you'll need to pick the missions. Because at the end of the day it's all about keeping this sorry operation running. You will decide the fate of this endeavour. You are the shareholders, executives, and tactical commanders of Strike Command : The Commandering  The game will be broken down into phases. First you'll vote on the airframes from a list of possible choices. Some are cheap, some are expensive. Then you'll pick some support options. Then it'll be mission time. The world is full of hot spots and angry people with money. Lastly will be the mission itself. We'll see what works best to define the flight paths and mission protocols but I'd like to leave as much of it to you guys. Then I'll build the mission in CMANO, run it, and upload a video. The game has time compression so you'll only get the good bits.  Finally will be mission complete, an AAR, and the payday! Then, if this is all fun, we'll do another round. You'll need to not drive us into bankruptcy. Regarding missions : If you choose to help evil dictators certain munitions options will go away. But other ones might appear. The same if you choose to do stuff that the US/NATO/UN/EURO doesn't care about, or you side with them. The choices you make will have a direct impact on the financial future of this endeavour. Choose wisely.  After a brief period of US isolationism the world got itself into a shitfit. Wars are no longer being fought in buttfuckistan by major operators but across the globe in many, many regions. Now with a reduced budget, and a desire to keep taxes down, the US has sanctioned a bunch of Private Military Contractors. (That's us BTW) With the defunding of NATO congress has decided to make these PMC's earn each buck instead of just pissing it away in procurement. There's a midterm election coming and by god the senator from Kentucky cannot have a tax increase. Similar situations have occured throughout Europe. In a nutshell it's like Ayn Rand wrote the military defense budget. Fortunately there's pockets of stability. Unfortunately most of the rest of the world poo poo in a bag and lit it on fire. In 2019 China invaded Taiwan, or rather tried to. A fierce missile battle ended with the Taiwanese launching a tactical nuclear warhead into the Chinese invasion staging area. An hour later they launched a second missile that airburst over Guangzhou. The Taiwanese not only had managed to design and manufacture there own subs but also had retrieved some warheads from K-219 near Bermuda. In the ensuing months China broke apart as a nation as the economy collapsed. Today there is everything from rampant capitalists to staunch Maoists. Beijing is trying to bring it all back together but it's a damned mess. In many areas it's unclear who's really in charge. The Taiwanese subs were suspiciously close to a variant of the US Navy. Speculation was that the US assisted the Taiwanese in designing the subs as conventional missile subs and they had no idea of the Taiwanese nuclear capabilities. In this same area North Korea is making GBS threads on South Korea but open hostilities haven't started. Yet.  Russia in the East is a province of its own that as long as it supplies raw materials to Russia in the West, no one asks any questions. Oddly enough the fishing fleets in this area have proven to be the greatest source of friction as everyone is out to harvest those waters. India and Pakistan haven't tossed nukes at each other but Kashmir is still a sticking point. It was an autonomous UN zone for about a week and then the shitstorm hit. For now it's a no mans land that no country dares claim. Tibet is in the midst of a rebirth, though China still has the hammer down. Eastern Europe is simply the unstable zone. Russia, unable to conquer it all militarily, has instead sought to destabilize the zone economicaly, militarily, and culturally. Romania skirmishes with Bulgaria. Ukraine and Poland went at it. The Balkan states are just a huge basket of gently caress no. Estonia leads up the anti-Russian league but lacks anyone with any muscle to back it up. For now Russia is satisfied to just create the chaos. The Former Yugoslav states have merged into an odd economic zone that purchased all of Greece's debt from Germany. Now they manufacture weapons for sale to damned near everyone else. Greece is poor but mostly stable. Though a good deal of Greek nationalists are foaming at the mouth for independence.  Turkey still stands but drat near everything near her is a dumpster fire. Iran and the Saudi's came to blows once and both sides were completely embarrassed by the UAE Air Force. The UAE is the only stabilizing force at the moment and if they pull back it'll go to poo poo. North Africa has settled into a staging point for everyone to get the gently caress out and to Europe. Italy is the main collection point to send them all back. We won't get into the rest of the details of Africa right now. But reserves of rare earth metals there have proven to eclipsed even the demand, and cruelty, for mining diamonds. South and Central America is a playground for the CIA and DEA. PMC operations in that area are discouraged unless sanctioned. As of now the lithium deposits in Chile and Bolivia make those countries like Saudi Arabia was in the 1980's. Rich. Please see below for the Hired Goons current location, order of battle, and roster. Episode highlights are linked below. 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Tetraptous posted:Is there any way we could negotiate for some JDAMs now? Possibly yes. This initial loadout is to get us started. However we can definitely do a "special delivery" depending on mission specifics. Planes are individually modeled, so you can claim a plane. If you want one just let me know your callsign! Now we'll know when Goony McGoonFace dies to a 1950's era SAM.
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 NOV 11 2023 FM PMCCTL STOCKHOLM//GOONHQ1// TO PMC SHAREHOLDERS The voting trajectory among the partners is leaning heavily towards Klaus and Pedersen. The KP representative was reached mid-sauna and confirmed their commitment to providing a solid maintenance package with the planes. The name Hired Goons is also on the top of the list, 5 to 2 verse Neutrality Assured PMC We'll let the voting continue for a bit longer. But as of right now it's looking like a flock of Griffins. We're still awaiting the contract packages to know about the full weapons loadout but I'll elaborate once it's in. Speaking of contracts, we have a few in the works. More to come later. //PMCCTL END
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CMANO is getting an update package sometime in the near future. When it does arrive we will absolutely be using it. What does it give us? (Emphasis mine)Baloogan posted:gonna be a new ~cmano standalone~
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Mar 30, 2017 16:23
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Davin Valkri posted:By the way, how "off the wall" are you planning to make future operations? Will we be eventually able to operate F-20 Tigersharks, Yak-141 Freestyles, and maybe Naval F-117s? If we have the opportunity to go balls to the wall loving wild, I'll let you guys fly anything and everything. After a few missions we'll have the bugs worked out and gently caress yah, if you have the funds to buy this crazy poo poo, you can totally fly it. At the end of the day it's about the flying missions and watching your decisions unfold on the world. If the finances end up becoming a bit, erm, unusual, then that's ok. Though I'm going to try and aim for as much realism as I can. But Herbert Kornfeld, our accountant, is liable to get all up in your poo poo. F117 Seahawk : http://cmano-db.com/aircraft/4179/ F-20 Tigershark : http://cmano-db.com/aircraft/3817/ Yak-141 Freestyle : http://cmano-db.com/aircraft/4548/
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Mar 30, 2017 16:36
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Dark_Swordmaster posted:Are we X-COM? Do we pick a base location? Yes. Though facilities wise it'll be pretty close to the same. The only variables will be distance to the AOO and how close the hostiles might be. The trade off being if you're close you can accomplish more missions but you'll probably need a better SAM system.
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Two announcements. 1. Based on popular vote we are now known as Hired Goons. Should this operation become bankrupt we will reorganize as Neutrality Assured PMC. Goons, bad with money? No way. Never happen. 2. Klaus and Pedersen has been chosen as the supplier.  A representative from the firm was contacted in Stockholm and will release an audio statement tomorrow. In the meantime I'm Google Translating the crazy mish-mash of German, Swedish, and French in order to figure out what exactly is coming with these loving jets. The other firms are disappointed however they still will offer procurement when we're not in theater. So if you're holding out for a F-105 Thunderchief, we might be able to make it happen. Statement tomorrow. Weapons inventory to follow. Then Mission selection. Once we're on our way to the mission we can look at hiring some ground people. quote:$140,000,000 Remaining
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warhammer651 posted:Will we be able to go full Ace combat and have an airborne aircraft carrier? I'm not sure that's modeled in the current game. So no.
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Mar 30, 2017 20:22
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Davin Valkri posted:Could you kitbash one off a real-world plane that used parasite fighters, a-la B-36 FICON? Maybe? I'm not sure. We'll have to see what the future holds. Stago Lego posted:Would it be possible to order a F104, specifically a F104G (G for Germany). Maybe? At the moment there are 10 units in flying condition in private hands. Though Boris says he might have a line on a few that were retired from the Turkish Air Force in the late 1970's. Remind me next time we hit procurement.
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Ghost of Mussolini posted:Can we get Mirages Like a Mirage Panthera? There's a shitload of variants in the database.
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 In comparison on operating costs the SU-30 has a cost of near $30k an hour. The F-16 ranges up from $11k to $20k. Our operating cost will vary depending on the environment. Saab has very detailed information for Swedish operating costs at modern airfields. If we're deployed to a rural cow field then things will cost more.  Look at all that money! Hooray! On the downside this poo poo is going to go fast. As you'll see in a moment, a full flight of Meteor missiles can cost us $8 mil.  The planes are currently sitting at an ex US Air Force airfield.  And this is where modern combat becomes expensive. Luckily we can define our Weapons Release Authorization to keep a jet from firing all of it's $1.75 mil missiles at an unknown Cessna. Or we can play with manual release if we want to get really specific.  Our initial inventory is quite nice. When Klaus and Petersen said a full shipment of weaponry they meant it. Unfortunately the Durandals didn't clear German customs and have disappeared into some quasi EU/NATO blackhole of authorizations. For whatever reason they're fine with a plane load of bombs but one that can penetrate a runway makes them nervous. Who the gently caress knows. It's looking like we'll have two theaters of operation right now. More on this to come later. I'm also putting together some resumes for our experts, Jack Abramof, Jimmy the Juggalo, and Zack "The Animal" Economopolous.
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JcDent posted:What's so magical about that airbus that it costs that much to run? Where most of our aircraft have one, or a few people, the Airbus is a bit of a primadonna and requires the equivalent of airborne stevedores. This also assumes some ground unloading staff and equipment as well. Be it sourced from the locals or a contractor brought in with all terrain fork lifts or heavy equipment. Pilot roster is quite full. The AWACS is the hot ticket it seems. As planes are lost, or we expand, we'll promote people into new aircraft. I'm expecting a call from K&P shortly and once I do I'll get it transcribed and onto YouTube so everyone can listen in. The first two AoO's are solidifying. Our office secretary, Caramella Ooze, has done fantastic work bringing together a ton of options. Be sure to vote her a bonus come the holidays. The informational packets will be inbound shortly and then we'll start the voting. But a little teaser. AoO #1 : Brad Pitt spent seven years here. AoO #2 : Sarah Palin can see it from her house.
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StarFyter posted:On second thought, how active is pilot participation going to be? Reading the OP again it looks to be more than just having a name in the game and seeing when you get blown out of the sky. It's gonna be pretty chill really. My hope is you guys define some mission parameters and then I put it all into the games Mission Editor. I'm thinking some along the lines of :
You can get a lot more detailed on the missions, and that's OK, I'll just need to micromanage a bit more. But the game lets us really dial in on zones and weapon release stuff.
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Mar 31, 2017 14:30
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 Option #1  Synopsis As China slowly broke apart into her historical parts Tibet saw an opportunity to gain independence. The Dalai Lama originally backed the TLA, however his health is failing and other individuals have stepped up to take his place. All sides learned how to negotiate the modern non-battlefield from Russia and the Ukraine. It's not soldiers but volunteers. It's not hostilities but tension. The Chinese are struggling to hold on to control and are operating an under force air wing that is supporting ethnic Han Chinese who are in control of Lhasa. They have some exceptional air defenses. The TLA is backed by the NATO countries in name only. India is working the humanitarian angle but sees an opportunity to humiliate the Chinese after the Sino-Indian War of 1967. Our consultants expect that India wants an independent Tibet as a buffer state to Arunachal Pradesh and may go to extraordinary lengths to secure it. Retainer : $30 Million Mission Range : $3-12 Option #2  Synopsis Japan in a joint lawsuit with Russia won fishing rights in the Bering Sea during a landmark WTO decision. The US has disputed the results and is currently threatening to pull out of the WTO. So right now it's a free for all. The catch on both sides is no one wants to see fisherman killed, just the automated canning ships and facilities. There is also another PMC operating in this area, Larry's Lofters and will likely take whatever contract we don't. A US Carrier Group is operating in the Bering Straits to protect oil tankers transiting the area. Our contact has said that anyone who strays near that carrier group will be hosed up. We've had a contact from ANGERPeace, a splinter group of GreenPeace who wants to cripple both sides. They are backed financially by a sect of Bob Barkers Financial Fund. This is not a sanctioned option and will likely piss everyone off. But it'll pay. Retainer : $33 Million Mission Range : $4-16 The NATO flag indicates backing of Western Europe and the US. The UN flag indicates an option friendlier to the rest of the world. Unsanctioned operations can put us on the dark side of the law and can reduce our ability to procure UN and Nato friendly work.
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Dark_Swordmaster posted:What're the rules on owning the game and loving around? I don't mean recreating loadouts or running trial missions, but maybe doing some scouting and mock order/zone placement. I'm cool with that. Once I build the area I can release that as a .scen for anyone to run tests with. The actual hostile loadouts, composition, and behavior will be different.
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Davin Valkri posted:By the way, what's a "retainer"? Is it travel expenses or an up-front bonus? This is to cover initial expenses, travel fees, wages, and, most importantly, to insure our services. If the customer backed out for whatever political reason then we still get some payment. It also prevents us from playing all the sides, they are retaining our services.
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As of right now we have a significant majority voting for Tibet - India. I'm not going to call it yet, but I'd say you can probably pack short sleeves and sandals. Once we've made our decision on Mission location I'll allow you to vote for our support specialist. We've only got room on the roster for one. I think you'll have a hard time deciding between our extraordinarily competent candidates.
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chitoryu12 posted:Is this system grognardy enough to simulate air pressure and oxygen requirements? I know Tibet is pretty loving high up, to the extent that commercial planes don't really fly in the country due to the added risk during accidental depressurization. I don't know if it's much of an issue for fighters as most engagements happen at 36,000 feet. It's extraordinarily groggish in many details, but not sure how much of an impact oxygen or pressure has. Usually if a plane takes that sort of damage it's just dead.
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Well folks, Hired Goons is off to India. Our employer is UN backed NGO's and the Indian Government. Already the TLA has denounced us as a destabilizing force and consider us to be "merchants of death" to be dealt with accordingly. China has kept quiet on the matter. Our HR department has forwarded me three dossiers. We can pick one of these fine folks to be our operation asset for this deployment. It seems that outsourcing the HR duties to a guy named BobTheHippie2944 on Fiverr.com might not have been the best idea. But these all look quite talented.   
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Good Dumplings posted:Also good luck resolution associates!!! That's a thing of beauty! It's only a matter of time until I have an investigator from Interpol knocking on my door...
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A quick update. The scenario is complete. I'll strip out the hostile aircraft and let you guys explore it. But first I'll give you an effort post about the mission requirements. As of right now I'm sticking to actual, reduced, air wings. They just might be air wings from another theatre location. I'm hoping to have stuff from the voice actors by Monday so you'll actually get to hear characters like Klaus. More on that to come!
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Our new Lobbyist, Jack Abramoff (17 votes for Jack, 5 for Jimmy, 4 for Zack) is already hot on the job and has a dinner scheduled with the Indian Ambassador. Following drinks they'll be meeting with some South African weapons representatives. More to come on that later. But first, our Mission.  The UN / Indian Air Force has allowed us to use the North Lakhimpur Airport. The facilities are pretty spartan but will suit our needs. As we only have one airstrip we can only launch limited planes at a time. Please plan accordingly. The UN Food Relief Agency is loading up two C-130J cargo planes at Dibrugarh Airport. This facility is absolutely swamped. The infrastructure heading North is not sufficient to deliver the supplies so this is the number one conduit. Our mission is to provide air cover for the C-130's heading to Nyingchi Airport in Tibet. Once they land a pair C-17A Globemasters carrying personnel from Médecins Sans Frontières will head back to Dibrugarh. There is a UN mandated no fly zone to our west. Chinese aircraft may approach the line but not cross it. Same with any TLA assets. At the same time the Indian Army wants to send a message to a militia group that is thinking of joining the TLA. We have GPS coordinates to a bridge and orders to destroy it. The bridge area may be defended by AAA, 1970's vintage. Any other hostile assets noted can be destroyed.  Mission Schedule
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I'll be doing a short video on missions and get that to you guys soonish. Until then please feel free to plan as you'd like. From you guys I'll need planning and loadout ideas. Loadout Options   Unfortunately it seems that Jimmy tried to get into the country to work for the TLA. .pdf.png)
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In regards to loadouts I can definitely help. For anti-air missions we have Meteors or IRIS-t's. The Meteor is roughly $1.75 mil per missile compared to $400k on the IRIS. Everything else is ground or anti-ship. For the attack aircraft it's pretty much big dumb missiles or bigger dumb missiles. K&P has an announcement in regard to the JAS 39's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUU_daggLIA
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Tetraptous posted:How's the weather been? Cloudy or clear? Clear. chitoryu12 posted:How do you think the 135mm rockets will do on the bridge? Sounds like we may want to send the Sk 60Bs to the bridge (running low and slow through the valleys) while the Gripens run with the cargo planes. The bridge is pretty much this :  You toss in some 135mm rockets (6" diameter) and you're going to gently caress it up. A full flight of SK60's is 72 of the 135mm missiles.
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nothing to seehere posted:How far can each of our planes fly safely without drop tanks? With? Gripens w/ 2 Meteors : 485 nm Gripens w/ 4 meteors : 220 nm Gripens w/ 4 Iris-T : 540 nm Gripens w/ 6 Iris-T : 260 nm Gripens w/ LGB's 280-600 nm SK60B w/ Gun pods ONLY 970 nm SK60B w/ Rockets 375 nm chitoryu12 posted:Will we have any opportunity to refuel at Nyingchi Airport after the northbound escort or do we need to do this all in one run with drop tanks or aerial refueling? Refueling will be unlikely at Nyingchi. The place is packed with refugees, supplies, and is not the sort of place you'd want to drop down without a ground crew. Soup Inspector posted:It may be worth noting that during the Vietnam War there were several examples of bridges getting pounded for days by iron bombs and rockets, while a single guided munition brought it down. However, Yooper did say that our rockets would be plenty big enough to damage/destroy the bridge. The bridge is pretty fragile, you're not going to need a whole lot. .png) Sensors include... the Mk1 Human Eyeball. Crazycryodude posted:Are the rebels NATO backed, or is it really just in name only? I think we can probably expect to see mostly old Soviet/Chinese stuff. In name only. NATO isn't quick enough to respond to the changing internal politics. It felt right to them when the Dalai Lama was shaking hands with Bono about it, but now that it's a bunch of nameless rebels shooting Chinese civilians they're not so sure. Triple A posted:We probably can mount the GBU to an SK-60 and have another one lase it. As for what we can expect, I presume we'll just see a lot of chinese equipment with some soviet surplus in the mix The weapons loadout is pretty static for those. Just what was mentioned above. 30mm ADEN Mk4, and the rockets.
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Here is a link to the planning scenario. The hostile units are stripped out but the bridge is still in place. https://www.dropbox.com/s/zzbal50tuei84d3/Open%20Tibet%20Op%201%20For%20Planning.scen?dl=0
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Jimmy4400nav posted:One more question, are there any targets of opportunities in this mission apart from the bridge? Wasn't sure if the UN/India had any additional things they might want popped if we happened across them. If so do those have any bonuses attached to them? Not on this mission. Later missions will, depending on how well #1 goes, have additional targets of opportunity. Jimmy4400nav posted:For those of us without the game is the an easily accessible way to see all the weapon specifics? The website is a tad sparse. You can drill down a bit more at CMANO-DB, for example. Or a lot of the time I'll hit Wikipedia. The in-game info usually starts with wikipedias description.
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Good Dumplings posted:What do we do if the civilian transports end up near the bridge, anyway? Our stuff should be able to tell helicopters apart from planes, but is the enemy AA that capable too? The mission is just to get the C-130s to Nyingchi and the Globemasters back. It is very unlikely they would stray from flightpath to that degree. If they do, welp, not our problem. Condoleezza Nice! posted:How long would it take to scramble up another flight, and how long would it take to reach either the target bridge or reach the end point for the escort? We could have a Gripen or two prepped for takeoff as insurance rather than sending too many assets into a combat zone. Couple of minutes to take off. The first flight is ready to go, pilots in the cockpit, engines warmed up, etc. If they land, and need to go back again then poo poo starts taking hours. simplefish posted:Can we check with our client that when they say escort, they only mean against AA, and not also making sure tanks don't roll over the airport while MSF is taxiing on the apron. Seems it'd be a juicy target. If a bulldozer crushes them on the runway, not our problem. We just need to get them there. As far as I know the loadout combinations are fixed. No way to stick a complete and total mish-mash of 1940's bombs with 2020 recon pod. All JAS-39 ground strike loadouts also include a couple of IRIS-T missiles.
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simplefish posted:Awesome, thanks for the clarification. Correct. ManifunkDestiny posted:How confident are we that the C17 will meet its departure time? Given your earlier description of their departing airport, sounds like a bit of a madhouse, and I'd hate for our escort to run out of fuel before MSF gets skyborne. The Indian Air Force runs a tight operation and will launch right on time. Crazycryodude posted:Is this a pretty standard rate for PMC's? We're getting paid 6 million for like 30 minutes worth of work. I mean, I'm not complaining, but can we always expect this kind of return? I actually think it's a low rate. We provide not only protection but a certain moral elasticity in regard to options. What the UN or Indian Air Force can't do directly, we can. In addition the total price to replace those transports is a shitload of money, add in two planes of Doctors Without Borders and whammo, it's priceless. Our risk in the endeavor has to be tempered with the benefit. There's not a merc in the world who is going in against impossible odds. (Plus it wouldn't be fun) Though, once we get into the groove of this, things will get more dangerous. Making smart choices in regard to mission will insure asset life. The missions will not be impossible, though bad choices in regard to route or altitude can run from no losses to all Gripens down. Air combat is brutal and fast.
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Stago Lego posted:I like simplefish's plan. Except that I would use the SK60's for the bridge strike. Use those frame's in a low threath enviroment while we stil can! I added a "cheap" option to each package so we could get everyone who wants a plane into a plane, even if it's just your name on a pixel-plane. It's cool if you want to use, or not use, them, but I'd like everyone to have something to cheer for. To be honest the interest is higher than I thought so I'll see what ole Jack can wrangle up in regards to some low dollar aircraft. Goons gotta fly!
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Bacarruda posted:
This is great for how you guys can explain a mission idea to me. I've got a Mission Post coming later on to show you the tools I have at my disposal to arrange missions. JcDent posted:Can CMANO simulate a rogue Gripen pilot spotting a TLA MANPAD section and going GUNS GUNS GUNS while ranting something about dead corgies and bootleg dog food*? I can do manual attacks with the planes as long as it has the weapons. Or a generic AsuW Ground Patrol will kill anything it finds in a zone. chitoryu12 posted:Is there a list of aircraft available with prices next to them from CMANO? Nope! Just a lot of Googling on my part. There is a surprising amount of information online in regards to prices and operating expenses, at least for semi modern stuff. If you want to fly a 1950's era Angolan cardboard fighter plane then I might have to guess a bit. For that matter if you find pricing info for something you're interested in just post it. It can't be any worse than Panther V. Sherman chat.
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CMANO has a ton of options for us to specify missions. Sometimes when you know exactly what you want you can set a very specific path. Other times you might want something more flexible. The engine allows for both.
Boundary Area Missions  You define a set of boundary points and then attach it to a mission. Useful for covering an area with an AAW (anti air) patrol, asw (anti-sub) patrol, or even AsuW (anti-surface)patrol. The reference points can be fixed or set relative to a moving object like another plane or boat.  We have a variety of mission types. Strike and Patrol is what it sounds like. Support is a line or path to be followed by AWACS or fuelers. Note you can set a support mission then create a AAW patrol around the tankers using a relative reference point. Ferry moves units from one airport to another.  Here is our choices for strike missions. A strike mission requires a target list. We can attach escorts to a strike mission.  The patrol offers a bit more. We need to be careful just setting a patrol without boundaries as planes can do dumb things like follow a contact through a line of SAM's. These can be useful for covering an area and killing stuff there. Escorts can be assigned where applicable.  The support mission has no options here. If it's a tanker it just hangs out. Awacs do the same. Notice we can define a start and end time for missions. This is helpful to stagger operations. If you set missions too closely everyone will try to launch at once and gently caress up your time schedule.  This is the meat of the mission editor. You can define tons of variables ranging from altitude at the patrol zone, speed, sensors, whether they'll leave the area, or whether they use active sensors. If in doubt I'll what seems sensible. Disclaimer : I'm not a air combat expert. So if I set a patrol height that is dumb, please let me know. Nothing in the game will tell me otherwise.  Our rules of engagement are wide and varied. This also covers how to handle low fuel, and what to do when you run out of bombs (but not bullets).  We also set our emissions here. Want radar off? This is the spot.  This is some reference points that are set relative to a Barracks. Kind of a lame example as the barracks probably won't move. But you get the idea.  IMPORTANT NO NAVIGATION ZONE  We can tell the planes where not to go. We can set a zone and the aircraft won't go there. Very important in the case of SAM's or such. Or maybe we have a mission zone to avoid. If we don't set this our planes may chase after a high flying seagull, right over a dozen high end SAM systems.  EXCLUSION ZONES This is an exclusion zone. Also very important. We won't know what poo poo is until our sensors can resolve it. But we'll probably know it's something because the radar will pick it up. Setting this line acts as a tripwire. Anything that crosses it can be marked as hostile (or whatever) and our poo poo will kill it.  Finally we have manual paths. I can launch a plane, or group, and tell them exactly where to go, how fast, at what altitude, using a certain EMCON, with certain rules. The auto patrol can sometimes do dumb things so I like to use a combination of the two. Manual path to follow the route I like then I'll let them do patrol things once they get there. Bacarudda's and Simplefish's posts on mission specifics are great and exactly what I'm looking for to define the missions. I'll give it a bit more time for everyone to hash out ideas and then see what sort of mission is decided upon. At that point I'll set the paths and zones, give you guys a screenshot of it, then if approved I'll run it!
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Apr 2, 2017 18:14
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We have two mission plans put forth so far. 1. Operation simplefish 2. Operation Bacarudda Please choose one item from the seafood bar.
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Apr 2, 2017 21:57
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8GCzeQTJsg I don't think this changes our mission at all, just some facts to be aware of. He must be sleeping in as I don't have any more details on the aircraft. All he sent was a bunch of drunk texts. 
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Apr 3, 2017 13:23
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simplefish posted:For reference, I went and counted: Pretty much once we have a majority. The votes are tightening up so I'll let it run a bit longer. Or until a new plan is settled on. The scenarios go together really quick.
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Apr 3, 2017 14:36
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 It seems I didn't read the fine print. Jack sent me a picture of the bar tab. That we are contractually obligated to pay. On the plus side he sent a list of surplus aircraft available for purchase. More to come after this mission. OOC Glad everyone is enjoying it, I am too! I have to thank my good friend Fiverr.com...
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Apr 3, 2017 15:25
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Davin Valkri posted:Honestly all three of the options had some kind of caveat that would make them "make bad promises or get arrested earlier". Imagine we picked Jimmy and he decided to invite all his friends to Something bad would've happened with any of the choices. Well, something bad will happen with Our Man in Washington. Just a question of when...
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Apr 3, 2017 18:18
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Unimpressed posted:Is Jack real? Is he baloogan??? Jack, Our Man in Washington, is not to be confused with the real Mr. Abramoff. Ours has only a single F in his name. This has been clarified to prevent any, erm, libel charges from being filed. My Lawyer posted:The story, all names, characters, and incidents portrayed in this production are fictitious. No identification with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, and products is intended or should be inferred. quote:Any resemblance to persons living or dead should be plainly apparent to them and those who know them, especially if the internet has been kind enough to have provided their real names and, in some cases, their phone numbers. All events described herein may actually happen, though on occasion the OP has taken certain, very small, liberties with chronology, because that is his right as an American.
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Apr 3, 2017 19:39
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Serpentis posted:Well, finally caught up. It's telling that you've gotten this much investment before the first jet takes off, Yooper, job well done Yes. I've added your name to the list. As we lose jets, or acquire more, I'll cycle through the list. Our investors have the greatest confidence in our ability to beat the 2019-2023 market average of -17%. Success is always possible if your set the bar low enough.
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Apr 3, 2017 19:56
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(are you still taking reserve pilots?)