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I'm going to claim one of the SK60B close air support craft. Call sign Survivor.
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Oooo, AoO #1 looks good if we feel like pissing off--oh wait China doesn't exist any more.
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Mar 31, 2017 14:27
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I think I'm already attached to my SK60B. Look at these rockets! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9uOprded_k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBEyE2sARdI
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Mar 31, 2017 15:24
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I vote for India, as I support an independent Tibet and getting on the good side of the UN and India while helping Tibet can only be a good thing.
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Mar 31, 2017 16:02
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gradenko_2000 posted:Why India over the TLA directly? I'm not trying to contest, just genuinely curious. We get on the good side of the UN and India while still helping an independent Tibet.
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Mar 31, 2017 16:42
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Also, since we're using Gripens I'm obligated to post this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp53PPQr91U
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Mar 31, 2017 17:40
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Thefluffy posted:Greenpeace with an airforce? What is this, strangereal?! So I'm doing a Let's Read of Wingman, an awful Mack Maloney pulp series that takes place in an alternate history where WW3 causes the United States to break up into warring factions and PMCs. It predates Ace Combat and Crimson Skies by about a decade, but this campaign reminds me way too much of the books, especially the first one where entire chapters are dedicated to the protagonist wheeling and dealing to buy Korean War and Vietnam War vintage aircraft to assemble into a hodgepodge air force. Most of the enemies are mercenaries and air pirates who work for the bad guys, and the good guys hire their own mercs to bolster their numbers. It's lovely and Mack has no clue how aircraft or weapons work despite cumming all over the F-16, but it's unintentionally hilarious at times.
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Mar 31, 2017 19:31
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Davin Valkri posted:Would that we could be so lucky! Better Strangereal stories than creepy nationalist craziness! *gently kisses American flag in flight suit pocket* Edit: We should have gotten the F-16s so I could do a Hawk Hunter cosplay in this game.
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Mar 31, 2017 19:46
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Is this system grognardy enough to simulate air pressure and oxygen requirements? I know Tibet is pretty loving high up, to the extent that commercial planes don't really fly in the country due to the added risk during accidental depressurization.
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Mar 31, 2017 22:08
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Jack it up.
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Apr 1, 2017 02:15
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How do you think the 135mm rockets will do on the bridge? Sounds like we may want to send the Sk 60Bs to the bridge (running low and slow through the valleys) while the Gripens run with the cargo planes.
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Apr 1, 2017 18:34
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Yooper posted:The bridge is pretty much this : That's a good sign. Our Sk 60s are COIN aircraft for the most part, and I think they can handle 1970s-era MANPADS and guns with caution. Our Gripens are better served as rapid response escorts for the cargo planes.
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Apr 1, 2017 18:42
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Soup Inspector posted:Also a casual look on Wikipedia (yes, I know) indicates that the SAMs/MANPADS we may possibly encounter (focusing only on the "'70s" caveat) are Kubs , Strela-2s, Chaparrals, Crotales, Rapiers, Blowpipe (lol) and Osas. I've excluded systems like the S-300 and Buk because it seems unlikely that random rebels would have access to sophisticated equipment like that. My list is predominantly Soviet because I imagine that most systems present will be Soviet in design. I've included some late 1960s vintage systems due to the vagueness of the intel. It's not much but it may be useful. The mission description specified MANPADs, so I think that puts vehicles like the Kubs and Chaparral out. More likely stuff like Grails or maybe old Redeyes.
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Apr 1, 2017 19:06
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Triple A posted:I think we can afford to lose money on one mission if it means we'll actually complete it. My recommendation is that we use our AWACS to keep an eye out for anything that might hurt the transports from BVR ranges. IMO, our plan should be to have a pair of Gripens for both flights of aid and one pair as a rapid response group. As for the bridge, I'd recommend a stand-off attack with something lasing the drat thing. What's the cost division on a single Gripen dropping a laser-guided bomb versus a few Sk 60s flying in with rocket pods? Edit: A Paveway is $46,000 while a 135mm rocket is $2800. We can fire 16 rockets for the same cost as one bomb.
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Apr 1, 2017 19:29
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Will we have any opportunity to refuel at Nyingchi Airport after the northbound escort or do we need to do this all in one run with drop tanks or aerial refueling?
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Apr 1, 2017 20:05
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MrYenko posted:A Paveway is $46,000, but a pair of SK60s is $2.4m, and we'll probably lose them both sending them after a defended bridge with dumb rockets. That doesn't even factor in the very low likelihood of the rockets even doing significant damage to the bridge. Can we be confident that a Gripen won't be shot down? If we send a single fighter and lose it, we lose a valuable plane and potentially our opportunity to recover and use a second plane with what we've deployed. In terms of AAA, I think Soviet 23mm cannons are the most realistic option for Tibetan insurgents.
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Apr 1, 2017 20:49
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Yooper posted:I added a "cheap" option to each package so we could get everyone who wants a plane into a plane, even if it's just your name on a pixel-plane. It's cool if you want to use, or not use, them, but I'd like everyone to have something to cheer for. Is there a list of aircraft available with prices next to them from CMANO?
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Apr 2, 2017 16:44
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I vote simplefish because the bombing happens after the MSF plane takes off, reducing the risk of enemy fighters being scrambled to retaliate while the cargo plane is taking off.
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Apr 3, 2017 00:38
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Get going, boys! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGg-u0B8VWs
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Apr 3, 2017 23:08
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One request for future AARs: could we have a (spoilered out like the picture) text breakdown of what happened? It would be nice to quickly get an overview of the mission from start to finish without having to watch a 20 or 30 minute video, especially on mobile or at work.
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Apr 4, 2017 14:52
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I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest stocking up on air-to-air missiles. With China treating us the way they are, there's a good chance of more (and possibly better) aircraft being sent to intercept us when we go on missions.
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Apr 4, 2017 16:43
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On another note, what do we think about liveries? Do we want to develop a custom color scheme and/or emblem for our air force?
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Apr 4, 2017 20:55
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Soup Inspector posted:Actually Bacarruda just reminded me of a downside relating to nabbing Su-25s - namely, as ex-Warsaw Pact birds they won't accept the munitions all of our other stuff does, complicating our supply chain and making it more expensive. We may want to seriously consider the F-4s as alternative mud movers. The IRIS-T was designed specifically to be backwards compatible with the Sidewinder, so anything that shoots Sidewinders can shoot IRIS-Ts.
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Apr 4, 2017 21:34
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Tevery Best posted:Reserve Pilot Thunderlips says: they're national air forces, brother! They have the resources of an entire country's military to RUN WILD with their PROCUREMENTMANIA! Not to mention plenty of other, possibly political concerns, that SMASH the loss/profit calculation in their case! Yeah, we're honestly running at a shoestring right now. Not every day you drop 10% of your entire cash reserve on ammo, and I don't want us getting into it with loan sharks.
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Apr 4, 2017 22:07
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Also, this game kinda makes me want to do an interactive LP of 7.62 High Caliber where individual goons play mercs we hire. The combat would be progressed by a fixed amount (like 10 seconds) and posted in screenshot form for the players to direct their merc how to operate. When it comes time to make purchases, the cash is evenly split between everyone and they buy what they want to outfit their merc with. The big problem I see is that even with the Blue Sun mod you can only have a limited number of mercs, so the player cap will be pretty drat small unlike this one or the big war games.
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Apr 4, 2017 22:49
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 Purchase 4 Phantoms and 1 UAV, halve missile purchase and focus on IRIS-T
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Apr 5, 2017 02:18
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Can we try out our SK60s on the primary mission? With MANPADS limited, the environment should be a bit more permissive (especially if a Gripen or two run support to bomb AAA positions).
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Apr 5, 2017 14:33
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Also, what do we have for anti-shipping work? Will Paveways take them out?
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Apr 5, 2017 14:57
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CirclMastr posted:Is it possible (based on flight time/fuel and sensor capabilities) to have the SK-60s do the freighter attack? We aren't getting paid for that half and the Gripens are not nearly as expendable. As far as I know, the freighters are sneaking through with normal civilian traffic so they aren't exactly defended by a carrier group.
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Apr 5, 2017 17:14
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Gonna vote for Option B. I don't want us splitting supply lines between Warsaw Pact and NATO when we've got such a big stockpile of NATO gear already.
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Apr 5, 2017 18:15
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Popete posted:I don't think arms procurement is going to be a big of an issue as it seems. We can also stockpile munitions when the opportunity arises, completely blocking all non-NATO aircraft is gonna be a pain down the line when we are limited in what we can buy. Frogfoots provide a wealth of CAS options and for missions that pay out based on targets destroyed they could easily pay for themselves in no time. We could buy (3-4) F4-E's instead of only 2 in the Phantom-Frog package and that way we have some guaranteed SEAD aircraft to clear an AO before sending in the Frogfoots to loiter and destroy. Munitions for the Frogfoots should be pretty cheap as well when we have the opportunity to buy it. My problem is that we've already built a healthy stockpile of NATO-compatible munitions, and the Phantom is the only decent plane out of what's on offer that uses most of them. Stockpiling for Warsaw Pact planes would mean more millions out the door before we can use them, which we can't exactly afford right now.
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Apr 5, 2017 22:52
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Bacarruda Plan B
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Apr 6, 2017 19:45
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Glad to see our Saabs getting a stretch! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiXqvQWRPNg
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Apr 7, 2017 02:16
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In the real world, Saab is working on upgrading their Gripens to carry the next generation of RBS-15 missiles. This is not unlike what our anti-shipping planes look like.
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Apr 7, 2017 20:16
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For wacky CAS options, there's also the T-6 Texan! WW2 trainer that got exported and used by the Syrians against Israel (among other third-world air forces). Go to Warbird Adventures in Kissimmee, FL (not far from Walt Disney World) and you can fly a T-6 for a few hundred bucks. chitoryu12 fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Apr 7, 2017 |
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Apr 7, 2017 21:41
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Also, found some footage of our other plane in flight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgp36b839ow
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Apr 7, 2017 22:08
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Quinntan posted:The X-32 just looks so happy, like it really loves just being a plane. 
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Apr 7, 2017 22:48
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Option A
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Apr 7, 2017 23:14
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Show this to our pilots to get them off the ground faster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBHMEqH1oRY Pretty sure Swedish is a made-up language.
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Hey my SK60 didn't suck! I think Bandit and myself scored the most reliable rocket hits of any in the air on that mission. Some footage of our Paveway hits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSjJ80WW24w
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