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You guys want to save the world, but are also turning down a chance for eco-terrorism? Let's make an ACTUAL difference (and lots of money).
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Stago Lego posted:I also choose the Indians because "Free Tibet" I guess? Also it looks like a nice start up, gives us a name as a (hopefully) competent, decentish PMC. Though Angerpeach sounds tempting. Give in to your anger, come to the peach side. We'll save this planet one boat full of dead civilians at a time. Crazycryodude fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Mar 31, 2017 |
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Mar 31, 2017 16:24
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All I hear is everybody putting things like "reputation" and "not pissing off all the major world powers" above preventing the total ecological collapse of our oceans. Also, terrorism apparently pays really REALLY well
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Mar 31, 2017 16:43
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Let them come. We can totally take on a full CBG with 8 Gripens.
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Mar 31, 2017 16:57
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If Space Case dies I've got dibs on THE WINGMAN in an F-16
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Mar 31, 2017 19:50
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I detest everything about Zack as a person, but he's useful so gently caress it let's bring him on board. If we're gonna be taking down CVBG's in the name of Gaia we'll need cutting edge tech and/or hordes of disposable drones to soak up the AMRAAMs
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Apr 1, 2017 02:09
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A Paveway or two would basically guarantee loving that bridge with very little risk to our airframes. A low run with dumb rockets is probably going to end up more expensive if we use more than 1 plane, and has a much higher risk of having holes put in our new toys.
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Apr 1, 2017 20:01
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Are the rebels NATO backed, or is it really just in name only? I think we can probably expect to see mostly old Soviet/Chinese stuff.
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Apr 1, 2017 20:55
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I think putting 4 Iris-T's each on the escorts is good enough, we don't need to splurge on the top shelf stuff and double the ammo will be handy if it gets hot. I agree on the bombs, we only need one or two so that's no big deal. Are we sending up the AWACS, too?
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Apr 1, 2017 21:33
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We 100% want a frigate, are you kidding? It'll make the eco-terrorism an order of magnitude cheaper AND more effective.
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Apr 1, 2017 22:44
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We've got what, like ~$170 million in the bank? That's enough for a (very heavily discounted and out of date) boat and the shells to keep it sinking defenseless fishermen for a while. Plus I'm sure we can talk AngerPEACE into helping out with the costs.
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Apr 1, 2017 22:50
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Weather's been clear for the past few days and is supposed to stay that way, so I'd assume so.
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Apr 1, 2017 22:56
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Operating costs are cheap enough that even if we flew everything with full load outs it's only a couple percent of our reward, so the only reason to limit what we put up is runway time and vulnerability. Anything that involves putting airframes in the sights of MANPADs/AAA when they don't absolutely need to be is just pointlessly risky - Paveway the bridge, it's no big deal. Davin's plan is a solid one, there's no reason NOT to send the AWACS up as long as it's properly escorted, and I'd rather have lots of firepower in the air and not need it than need it and not have it. Also, blowing the bridge should be one of the last things we do because the Chinese/TLA are 100% going to respond somehow.
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Apr 2, 2017 00:52
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Look I wanted to become eco-terrorists but since you people insist on building a reputation first let's at least make it a reputation for always giving the whole 9 yards. And then parlay it into getting away with eco-terror black ops.
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Apr 2, 2017 01:27
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Why don't you understand that anime belongs in the trash?
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Apr 2, 2017 01:39
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Is this a pretty standard rate for PMC's? We're getting paid 6 million for like 30 minutes worth of work. I mean, I'm not complaining, but can we always expect this kind of return?
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Apr 2, 2017 04:39
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If we have them on Ready 5 then they'll probably manage fine, but the AO is so small that we can cross the whole thing in like 10 minutes so even Ready 5 is pretty slow.
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Apr 2, 2017 06:10
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We're a high-end PMC with a sterling reputation that you can trust to get the job done, and get it done right. Also the last people you'd expect to be running an eco-terror division under the table.
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Endorsing Bacarruda's plan. Also, I feel like we're gonna hear a lot of Dos Gringos in this thread
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I just want to say I love that the characters exist outside of forums posts, it (especially the voice acted bits) makes the LP really unique.
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Davin Valkri posted:Seconded! The jets are still on the ground and I'm super excited. His blood stream is either pure ethanol at this point, or he was buying the entire bar's drinks all night. Either way, yeah I think that's his downside. Well, that and being a sleazy lobbyist who might make some promises we didn't expect him to or get caught up in a scandal.
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Apr 3, 2017 16:43
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We'll contract it out with AngerPEACE while the planes go do other things.
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Apr 3, 2017 20:48
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As long as we're eco-terrorist pirates I'm completely on board as well. Normal piracy is just boring.
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Apr 3, 2017 21:39
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And there's the Jimmy we all know and love. Welcome back, hope the Navy's treating you... passably, at least.
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Apr 4, 2017 00:19
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We're totally gonna abuse that to make some awesome merc vehicles, right? E: Use it to install crazy after-market upgrades on our terror-frigate
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Apr 4, 2017 01:30
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Dandywalken posted:Congrats on a mission well done! This actually isn't too bad of an idea.
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Apr 4, 2017 15:26
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We can make our own promotional cover of I'm On A Boat and that alone is worth it, I feel.
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Well, let's stock up on ammo while we've got the chance. I have no idea exactly what we should get, though. As long as we keep enough cash in reserve for our frigate.
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Triple A posted:I don't think we need extra photorecce stuff unless we suddenly double our Gripen fleet. Also, we probably could only really use 20 Mavericks and reduce the A2A order to 16 Meteors and 30 IRIS-Ts. There's no guarantee the prices are gonna stay the same, though, and they look incredibly cheap right now so I don't think things will get much lower. It's not like missiles expire (well, not on the timescales we care about) so why not stock up?
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Apr 4, 2017 18:35
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Soup Inspector posted:Actually Bacarruda just reminded me of a downside relating to nabbing Su-25s - namely, as ex-Warsaw Pact birds they won't accept the munitions all of our other stuff does, complicating our supply chain and making it more expensive. We may want to seriously consider the F-4s as alternative mud movers. Yeah we should not be trying to mix PACT with NATO with whatever 3rd party stuff is floating around unless we want to massively complicate our supply chain. If we have to spend a little more cash or get a little less capability to keep everything working together, that should be the priority.
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Oooo we should TOTALLY grab some UAV's. Also, if we buy the Greek Phantoms, can we fix them up to remove the failure chance?
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Apr 5, 2017 01:12
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So since the frigate is a joke FOR NOW (not giving up), who wants to go steal that CVBG in the Bering Straits? E: Bacarruda I'm 90% on board with your plan, but can we cut the Golden Eagle buy down to just 2 so we have a bit more reserve cash? I don't like having just 2 million for all our operating costs. Crazycryodude fucked around with this message at 14:01 on Apr 5, 2017 |
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Now I wonder what sort of military hardware would make this exact type of mission much easier..... But if we can't have a frigate I guess we can at least have the Internet. Using vesselfinder.com is actually not a bad idea and a nice 21st century solution that maybe they didn't think to counter.
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I think ASM's might even be so overkill that they're less effective against a civilian freighter. IIRC most ASM's are designed to punch through a bunch of armor with kinetic energy before detonating their relatively small warheads in the guts of the ship. Against an unarmored target, though, it could go straight though and even if it doesn't the 200kg of explosives on board won't do nearly as much damage as a few Paveways and cost way more.
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Yeah if we can not violate Myanmar's airspace that would be good. Hopefully the extra time going around tacks on isn't enough for the ships to appreciably move/get to port.
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Is there a time limit on the CAS operations, or can we like kick in the door and let the SK's do their thing, then RTB and stock up with more explodey things and do it again? Repeat until everything not wearing an Indian flag is dead.
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Apr 5, 2017 18:00
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Save the ASM's for if (when) we have to start killing properly armored/defended ships. The GBU's are fine for cracking open lovely civilian freighters, and maybe even better because larger warheads, overpenetration, etc. etc.
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Alright I've been convinced to go for Option B instead (old post edited). Still think we should use Paveways instead of ASM's. Yes, the RB-15 will gently caress up a container ship but so will the bombs and at a fraction of the cost. If we're gonna drop most of our cash on airframes we need to save as much money as we can elsewhere. Why use the super-expensive missiles when the cheapo bombs will do just fine? Oh and we should specify that the ground crews should be ready to get the CAS planes turned around and up again real fast until the sun goes down/the pilots collapse from exhaustion. Crazycryodude fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Apr 5, 2017 |
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