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Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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Well, yeah, and that Hall trade wasn't in any way one-sided. Any GM would be smart to give up Hall for that return.

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Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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ThinkTank posted:

Uh okay no one was saying Taylor Hall is what he'll get but, Chris Tanev is gonna cost you more than half of what Eric Gudbranson did.

He's one of the top two or three pure shutdown defencemen in the NHL.

I probably only watch 3-4 Canucks games a year, but from memory and looking at some numbers, that's a bit of a bold claim. Granted, he probably looks worse on paper because of the poo poo playing around him, but there are plenty of guys that do what he does for shot suppression while also putting up points.

Off the top of my head, Ekblad, Stralman, Parayko. Not to mention the likes Karlsson, Letang, Hedman, and like 5 guys in Nashville. Pure shutdown d-man just tells me they play a lot without putting up points. If you're gonna ascribe value, "pure shutdown guy" isn't exactly a selling point for me. Eating minutes is great, but driving offense is how you win games.

All that said, I would love Tanev in Dallas, I just don't agree with you guys on his value. Again, that said, the Hall trade happened so there's no ceiling to the stupidity of any given GM.


Ginette Reno posted:

Larsson stinks. Just because Edmonton made the playoffs does not make that a good trade. They still would have been way better off keeping TayTay rather than a defenseman who broke even in CF and had 19 points.

that's my whole point :shh:

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Don't slam your dick into that live outlet, Jim. You've don't it twice, you know exactly how it will turn out.


Oh, FFS.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

They're also hoping bishop won't be at best average in 2 years time.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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Good soup! posted:

gently caress, looking back it felt like he dragged the whole team kicking and screaming to the end of that entire season

Yeah, he tended to do that everywhere he went. Well, except Phoenix.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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Shinjobi posted:

Jim Nil does go money gooder

I am going to choose to be optimistic about Bishop. I am making that choice.

I mean, the money is a bit high. The term is pretty high. The nmc and ntc are pretty unnecessary. But, I mean, other than that it's all good!

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

They're gonna package them for a guy who parties. Or extend them both. Who knows?

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

So what's that child's craft of a sweater cost? 120 is my guess.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BUHTHkoFVWp/

loving brilliant stuff there.

Cocaine Bear fucked around with this message at 22:10 on May 16, 2017

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB


Brassard for zbad too. Or was that before he got the nod?

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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Spring Break My Heart posted:

I fully realize that it's just treated the same way as coach of the year or the leadership award, except even dumber because youre trying to isolate the current year of GMing, but how do they even pretend to justify nominating Dorion?

There was a CBC graphic tonight that went something like:
Chia (first playoffs since whenever)
Poile (first conference finals)
Dorion (got the job as gm)

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

It's the art equivalent of not being able to skate backwards.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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hifi posted:

dylan strome has like the worst hair in the world and he put up 7 points in the ohl playoffs to set a record.




At least he has some


Lol, loser rear end ducks and their shiny headed captain (fuckman)

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Any team that managed to lose multiple game to the Ottawa Senators in the 2017 playoff should be ashamed.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Only good outdoor game is in - 20 weather. You're up, Winnipeg.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Probably just figured he'd be banned by the league/in jail by the following year. Gotta trap that Colorado non fiction hockey market while it lasts.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Don't forget the nmc! Gotta keep all that goalie talent in Dallas locked down.

Though legit if they have bishop two seasons ago they're a cup threat. Oh well, Nill stands by his decision re: lol, who even needs defenders?

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

How do they feel about finns?

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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ImplicitAssembler posted:

Canucks have named Markstrom as their #1 goalie. I don't mind that too much, as the team will be crap anyway.
Hope Miller ends up in a nice spot. He did better than most expected.

He'll do fine in Dallas.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Yeah, but whose their Rival?

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Plus doesn't he have a bad back from carrying all those teams in the playoffs?

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Uh, call me crazy, but the Caps are a very loving good team and, imo, should do everything they can to stay the course. Holtby sucked and they got back luck. What are they gonna do, gets some +2 luck gloves and trade away one of the best keepers alive?

It'd be dumb to do anything but try again next year.

Cocaine Bear fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Jun 2, 2017

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Yet another thing brassard is too old to do.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Anyway, trip update!

The Scots don't really know what hockey is. A bartender said he watches sometimes and that ice hockey is like Hurling but more violent. However, once you've befriended them, hooligans will passionately talk trash about any team/thing you're against; so there's at least a bit of anti-Pens sentiment out there in Glasgow. The Dutch dig hockey. Lots of Bruins fans for some reason. Must be all the drugs.

Games being at 2am local sucked, but pointing at priceless art vol. 2 turned out okay.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Yeeeeehaw, I'm pedant

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Nill needs to acquire something for the blue line. Too many forwards to protect and nothing special on D. If he pulls what he did last offseason and just shrug at the idea of rebuilding the d-corps he needs to go. There are enough teams that need to lose a d and and he's got enough offense that losing a piece to improve the back end would work out for both parties. Probably going to lose roussel or eakin one way or another, which is a bummer, but he better not simply lose one to Vegas for nothing.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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Colorado. He's quite good and on a decent team maybe tops out as a 30/40 guy. He's definitely better than his 18 goals last year suggest.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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He's old and poo poo and Detroit has a collection going.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

Goddamn Chiarelli is stupid.

Just gearing up for another 1st overall run.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Kilza posted:

I'm not going to hit the panic button over this just yet. First and foremost, the Oilers aren't signing anyone before Draisaitl/McDavid, and they can't re-sign McDavid until July 1. So that means they won't re-sign Russell until he hits free agency. So he'll have time to talk to other teams who'll pay much more than the Oilers for him. Second of all, notice that the key words are "looking to give". This doesn't mean that Russell and his agent are looking for that money/term. If I remember correctly, he wants at least $5 mil, and given that his agent priced him out last free agency, I can see Russell's agent refusing to sign a $4x4 deal since the salary isn't high enough. Thirdly, this whole thing supposedly hinges on Eberle, who the Oilers can hold onto for a year until the cap forces their hand and who can easily return a better defenseman in a deal. Fourth, having Russell for 4 years doesn't even make sense when you consider the fact that the Oilers have guys like Nurse and Benning growing in the NHL, and guys like Caleb Jones and Bear hitting the AHL who can grow into NHL roles. So even if the worst case scenario was to happen and he was to re-sign in Edmonton, he's getting traded by the end of year 2 at the latest.

So I'm not worried even though I know the rest of SAS is going to have a field day with this.

Fifth, Edmonton is run by idiots.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB


Do it Nill. You have tiiiiiime.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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grack posted:

Starting goaltender.

Oh, right. Never mind.




I mean, like, Dallas has been start... no, still doesn't count? K.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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yellowcar posted:

Dallas could still trade Bishop.

Might be tricky with that nmc that Nill gives to every goalie.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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yellowcar posted:

Didn't know he did that.

He's contractually obliged.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

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Pornographic Memory posted:

it's entirely possible that vegas picks more goalies than they actually need just so they can flip them during this offseason or later too. it's a virtual certainty that some team is going to find out during the season that their goaltending is a lot worse than they thought it would be and looks to vegas who stocked up on like 3 or 4 starters/guys with strong starter potential

Vegas should draft only goalies. Can't get scored on with 6 keepers on the ice.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

It's not the worst thing ever and might look better on tv, but that sure is a hella downgrade from a like top 3 sweater in the league.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Lol, like the only good thing about Minny was the jersey. Nice work.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

I was itchy but my boss said I still had to go to work.


Dallas sweaters continue to look sharp af. They changed the collar a bit but kept the laces and it's good. Looks like they cropped the green on the away shoulders a bit but that might just be the pic angle. They wrote the name of the colour or the collar for... a reason. Aaaaaand they got speed holes. Gonna go so fast.

https://twitter.com/DallasStars/status/877346072145743874

https://twitter.com/DallasStars/status/877351023123324929

We'll need a new ginger to bring out the Irish look once Vegas selects Eakin. And also a player with a Pokemon name.


E: actually the black hem/arm stripes look bigger too. Not bad, basically the opposite of what the oilers did with the opposite result (it's better).

Cocaine Bear fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Jun 21, 2017

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Imagine I'm better at photoshop and all the grey is uniform.





Also, there is no saving those gloves. Pretend they're... good.

e: okay, did a bad job on the gloves:

Cocaine Bear fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Jun 21, 2017

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Bring back Mooterus

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Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Rip Eakin. You were too gentle for this world.

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