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Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

El Gallinero Gros posted:

I just read that Edmonton drafted Taylor Chorney (who is form my hometown, bless his heart) over Kris LeTang back in 2005.

Yikes. No wonder they took so long to get their poo poo together with stuff like that.

Every team passed on Letang twice.

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Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Schlesische posted:

You know the Oilers fans will burn down Edmonton as well in this scenario, yes?

It's for the best.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Kilza posted:

I don't know, Oilers signed the Kris Russell and they haven't been disappointed with him. :v:

Oh god Chiarelli please don't re-sign Russell

Luckily they are hosed on cap room so unless they traded nuge or eberlle for peanuts.... Oh poo poo

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Slappy Pappy posted:

Personally I think Matthews should probably be top 6 in MVP discussion with McDavid, Crosby, Kucherov, Marchand and Bobrovsky. The guy has had an awesome year.

Hahaha what.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Sharks Eat Bear posted:

it will now replace the preseason annually. and all the games will be played in stadiums outdoors. and it will all be 3v3. and every game will be on a wednesday. and now every country will have its own young gunz roster. :regd08:

That sounds loving awesome

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Let's see Crosby get the Richard/Hart at least

There's a 0% chance that someone other than McDavid wins the Hart.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012


Mods please change my name to Fairy Godfather

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

DJExile posted:

Katz what the gently caress :stare:

You're surprised a lovely rich guy did a lovely rich guy thing?

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Powershift posted:

This should have been obvious when the concussion spotter pulled mcdavid when he hit his mouth, and then touched his mouth to see if it was bleeding, but leaves every guy who gets punched in the head 15 times out there.

Ya noones ever had a concussion getting hit in the mouth.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012


This is good stuff.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Spring Break My Heart posted:

Who are the "hot" coaching candidates?

Dallas Eakins!

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Sutter with the Panthers would be pretty good!

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Powershift posted:

It worked with Patrick Roy and Joe Sakic and wayne gretzky.

Superstar players make the best coaches.

What's that have to do with Blake being the GM?

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Comparing Nick Schultz to Gologoski and Demers is lol.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

El Gallinero Gros posted:

OTOH, he'd have to be an upgrade to Desjardins, no?

He was a pretty bad coach on the Oilers who refused to line match and tried to get by on pumping up the team with good vibes.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

The Pegulas are really bad at running teams hahaha.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Thufir posted:

Man, didn't expect Murray would get the axe too. 3 years seems like a really short leash for a GM.

It's because the Pegulas are really bad nosy owners.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Koopa Kid posted:

The Sabres spent to the cap last year and have horrible defence and goaltending. Basically all of their big contracts are bad, and their free agent signings all immediately regressed the instant they put on the jersey. The only saving grace for the Sabres is that they've been bad enough to draft high.

Their goaltending was excellent for Buffalo this year.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

If he didn't play 26 minutes a night with the toughest zone stsrts on the team he'd probably be a bit better!

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

hifi posted:

1 year 4 million left isn't really a terrible deal. I wonder if the hawks knew that bickell had MS then they could have forced him on IR with the promise that he could play in the playoffs, if he could.

They were capfucked and had to trade money away and they couldn't do that without trading a top 6 guy if they couldn't dump Bickell.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Kalenn Istarion posted:

Blown acls are a death cry for hockey players

In 1996 maybe.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Brian Boyle is a ufa.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

A Typical Goon posted:

The Leafs actually only have like 12m in cap space with all the rookie bonuses that they'll have to pay out next year. Which doesn't really seem like enough to sign 6 players if they are planning on making any sort of FA splash.

Horton and Lupul LTIR

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

DJExile posted:

Don't they have to include those in the cap total before the year begins though?

Wait I was wrong..

The overage is 10%.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Apr 24, 2017

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

The draft itself is stupid in a league with a hard cap and hard contract limits on both rookies and individual players.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Gio posted:

where is this 'the draft is dumb' poo poo coming from

The whole reason the draft exists in the first place is to keep rich teams from buying all the best talent and to depress individual player salaries. There's no reason for it in a salary cap league that also limits player contracts.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Gio posted:

if the objective is parity there is.

Only if you buy that the draft in a cap league with salary limits on individual contracts serves to create parity better than a free for all on all players that enter the league.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

How does that happen with a hard cap?

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

xzzy posted:

Because rookies want to be on teams that win.

Look at what the Blackhawks are doing.. they dangle the cup wins in front of some young hotshot, hand him a budget contract and get a couple years of play before they get a "real" contract and get shipped out.

If you don't change the length of control teams have over players entering the league but eliminate the draft, this wouldn't be viable for teams to do.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

pearlvanice posted:

The NBA more than baseball. Baseball is now built around the building from within and keeping the stars on your roster. The NBA is just a feeder system.

You for real do not know what you're talking about here.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

You could give Anders Nillson or Bernier a lot less money/term and probably have about equal goaltending.


Not to mention you could more than likely work out some deal with Vegas or another team that has to expose a good young backup, and give up a similar asset and pay less money.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Yaya posted:

General consensus from what I've seen is that Eberle's getting shipped out of Edmonton at some point this offseason. Good hockey Twitter man Dimitri Filipovic gives us a chart that shows this is a bad idea.

https://twitter.com/DimFilipovic/status/860252053964193792
Oilers better hope they win a cup soon before Chiarelli trades Draisaitl over not fitting in with the culture.

They need cap space and its him or RNH.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

The Golden Man posted:

The Oilers are with the exception of Lucic going to pretty much have bargain basement wingers going forward. Condor, Leon and Nuge are going to be banking them in off of guys like Caggiula, Maroon, Slepyshev, Puljujarvi, Kassian and Khaira for the foreseeable future

Don't you forget about Joey Legs!

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

The only way Hall wouldn't have been dealt is if Columbus hadn't spilled the beans on wanting dubois over JP and the three way trade that netted the Oilers Hamilton for the Nuge while trading down to 6 had happened.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

No he isn't.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012


Allows them to protect Letestu if they want to now.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

ElwoodCuse posted:

Either Steve doesn't know that guy as well as he thinks, or he's a bigoted shitbag too

First link for "Steve Simmons racist"

https://twitter.com/simmonssteve/status/17969245828

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

I just find it hilarious that Simmons decided to bring that up 20 years after the fact and start the tweet with I'm not racist but...

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Powershift posted:

I think they can do more with that $6m off the books than they're going to get as a trade.

They aren't going to expose Eberle so they can overpay someone you dummy.

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Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

What was different between the Colorado expansion and this one? Did teams just not get to protect as many players? How were they really good?

Like, what's the point of having an expansion team if they're going to be a shitshow for a while? It would be pretty cool to let teams protect less players and have a bigger shakeup. Or let them only protect players who have been on their roster for X years.

I just see this as being another Thrashers. Just looked them up and their best seasons were 41 and 43 wins, and the latter was their only playoff-qualifying season where they got swept. They had 2 winning seasons out of their 11. What's the point of expansion if they have no sporting chance at success?

This expansion draft easily has the best players available then there have been before. The Atlanta/Nashville/Columbus drafts you could protect 1 goaile, 5 dmen and 9 forwards or 2 goalies, 3 dmen and 7 forwards.

Imagine the garbage available if that was the case.

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