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Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

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I just don't see why you don't just go with Travis Green. If there's one thing the Canucks front office likes, it's PR. Hiring the AHL coach would show you're actually committed to a youth movement.

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Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
Regardless of what he inherited coming into Tampa, resolving the Drouin situation and signing Stamkos and Hedman for what he did is pure wizardry on Yzerman's part.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks

JawKnee posted:

Well anyway, while I'd like the Canucks to pick in the top 2, they'll most likely pick 4th - and if they do, I hope that Gabe Vilardi is still available and they take him. Still super young, already 6'3" and seems to be doing pretty drat well where he is.

If they don't get Patrick or Hischier I feel like Liljegren is the next best player in the draft. He had mono this season which hurt his draft stock a lot, but that's not like Patrick's groin injury where it might be a long-term concern.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
I mean, none of this matters because if the Canucks fall to 3rd or beyond they're taking Big Boy from Surrey Michael Rasmussen but it's nice to talk about.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks

ThinkTank posted:

Yes, but a sensible, considered coach could help smooth over the worst of the warts. If Green has any growing pains, the carnival of calamity will continue unabated and the team could really use some positive PR at the moment.

Utica's roster was real bad this year and Green did a pretty good job with keeping them in the playoff hunt until the last day of the season. I think it's the smartest way to go, but AHL coaches have flamed out spectacularly in the past (Eakins, Desjardins)

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
Travis Green is officially the Canucks head coach now. I think that's the right move.

Linden said during the press conference Travis Green was the only person they interviewed. I think that's a dumb move.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks

ThinkTank posted:

They'll live or die by whoever that is (either Patrick, Hischier or Middlestadt).

You're forgetting Michael Rasmussen, who is 6'5 and from Surrey.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
http://www.tsn.ca/patrick-hischier-in-tight-race-for-no-1-in-tsn-draft-ranking-1.736258

Bob McKenzie put out his final draft ranking. Patrick/Hischier is basically a 50/50 split between the scouts league wide.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks

Pornographic Memory posted:

i think avs twitter just blew all the previous sad avs twitter posts away

https://twitter.com/Avalanche/status/858013601289969668

ZOOM

ENHANCE


Carl Soderberg does it again!

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks

JawKnee posted:

I am ready for the Canucks to pick 5th

I've tried to talk myself into understanding that's whats going to happen but I just can't do it.

The Jake Virtanen pick ruined me, I know if they don't pick top 2 they're gonna gently caress it up.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks

ThinkTank posted:

Darling is a UFA on July 1st. That's kind of a hefty price to pay for someone who could walk for nothing in a couple months, especially one who isn't a star.

I'd imagine he signs with the Canes anyways because they'll give him the starter's job.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
i want to die

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
I've slept on it and now that I've calmed down I think I can say that hockey still sucks rear end

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
I mean, announcing Bobrovsky as a Hart finalist means they might as well give him the Vezina right now. It's a pretty good indicator how people voted.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
N: Zaitsev gets 7 years/4.5m per.
V: Somewhere, Don Cherry is furious.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks

grack posted:

It's gonna be an issue next season with Tryamkin gone, unless Juolevi or Pedan is ready to play full time.

Aaron who works in accounting is gonna get signed to play 2nd pairing minutes before the Canucks will call up Subban.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks

Heliogabalos posted:

I don't understand why Canucks fans/writers so constantly and frothily demanded Pedan/Subban be called up and played. They're still developing to play well in the AHL. I get that the Canucks defence ranges from terrible to okay, and then Tanev, but what purpose does it serve to see Subban obliterated and Pedan embarrassed on a regular basis. You miss 100% of the bad plays you never call up unready developing players from the minors for?

In the case of Subban, at least for me, Philip Larsen was signed almost exclusively to act as a 1PP unit shot. He was a disaster both defensively and in the PP role and I see no reason why Subban, who's established himself to have a pretty dang good shot in the AHL, couldn't play that role. He certainly couldn't be worse defensively.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks

Captain Internet posted:

Of all those names I found Kyler to be most offensive. Like, Kyle or Tyler, just fuckin pick one.

Those vessels of the parents unfulfilled hopes and dreams must have the middle names that can only be pronounced by a two stroke engine and hinges of a barn door.

Future 2017 first round pick Kailer Yamamoto is even more shameful because they couldn't even give him a normally spelled Kyler.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks

Heliogabalos posted:

how realistic is the possibility of trading Tanev? It seems like a really stupid idea from any perspective but it keeps coming up in discussion.

It's very realistic and not dumb, either. By the time the Canucks are going to be competitive again, Tanev will be past his prime so it's best to trade him at his peak for good young talent/high pick(s). Chris Tanev is basically what the Edmonton Oilers *thought* Adam Larsson was and the Devils got Taylor Hall for him.

Of course, the Canucks return for Tanev won't be anywhere near as good because life is pain but it's the right thing to do.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
The Canucks need to rebuild and the first step of a rebuild is to trade your prime aged assets for younger assets that'll be in their prime when you're ready to compete again. The Canucks defense is going to be a disaster with or without him, and you might as well give the Ben Huttons and Troy Stechers more ice time.

2017 was bad but 2018 should be worse. It's best to just embrace the tank and get a top 4 player from what should be a deep draft.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
Yeah like, obviously he's old but I'm sure a Stanley Cup contender would take him any day of the week while they still have a window open.

Alternatively, McPhee might be interested in him and go full Vegas золотые рыцари. They won't be cup contenders but bringing in exciting talent for fans to watch in the first few years seems like a good way to make sure interest stays.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks

T-Bone posted:

Kovalchuk and Schneider to Dallas what is a legit return ok go

Ownership of the team

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
N: Ben Bishop's UFA bargaining rights reportedly being traded to Dallas for a 4th.

V: If they can find a way to sign him and ditch the two-headed monster of Lehtonen/Niemi, I feel like this makes the Stars a contender by itself.

edit: official before I could even finish making the post
https://twitter.com/DallasStars/status/862058177654910976

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
General consensus from what I've seen is that Eberle's getting shipped out of Edmonton at some point this offseason. Good hockey Twitter man Dimitri Filipovic gives us a chart that shows this is a bad idea.

https://twitter.com/DimFilipovic/status/860252053964193792
Oilers better hope they win a cup soon before Chiarelli trades Draisaitl over not fitting in with the culture.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks

the talent deficit posted:

vancouver are almost certainly going to get better as a result of the expansion draft (when they lose gudbranson, sbisa or pleeeeease dorsett or sutter)

I feel like Vegas might take Reid Boucher, tbh. He's not great but he's 23, an RFA right now and they can sign him for cheap. The Canucks picked him up on waivers and I kinda grew to like the guy.

Taking somebody like Gudbranson, Sutter, or Sbisa actively hurts the team, so I think they just go with the safe young guy option.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
The Canucks are Canada's team because they're an embarrassment and are never winning a cup ever

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
Manny Malhotra owns so I'm gonna be really sad when I hate him two years from now.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
To be fair to Baumgartner, while it is still nepotism, he's been an assistant coach for the Chicago Wolves (and then Utica when the Canucks changed affiliates) since 2012.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
https://twitter.com/NYRangers/status/875035414658154496

Congrats RAS

e: f;b

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
*Barney voice* IT BEGIIIINS

https://twitter.com/CanadiensMTL/status/875429633860263936

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
This offseason the Habs have to resign Drouin, Radulov, and Galchenyuk (and Markov but he's not getting as much as he did)

Next season Plekanec and Emelin go off the books but you also have to give Carey Price a blank check. The season after that, Pacioretty's 4.5m cap hit expires and he's for sure getting a huge pay increase. I think that's why people are saying Galchenyuk is gone. You just don't have the cap room for all that.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks

It Could Have Been Worse™

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
Great young forwards going for solid defensemen.

Meanwhile, Chris Tanev and his great contract remain where they are

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks

ThinkTank posted:

Unless Benning can get a top prospect or a top 5 pick, what's the point of moving Tanev now? I get that he'll likely be of little use if and when this team is ever competitive again, but he won't evaporate if he's not moved before July 1st. His NTC is 8 teams I believe, and he'll still be a hot commodity at the deadline this year and next year. There's no reason to rush into a deal unless it makes perfect sense to the team. I kinda like Benning's stance on Tanev at the moment.

Cosmic brain: Wait 2 seasons and jump when Eichel demands out of Buffalo

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
I feel like Mrazek, Pickard, and Korpisalo are 3 good choices to take over MAF, because unlike the Penguins, there aren't really players on the Wings, Avs, or Jackets I want.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks

Habibi posted:

I said the Sharks protected list would likely be a crapshoot - turns out even more than I thought:


Didn't expect to see Marleau, but Thornton's absence is conspicuous. They're protecting what...2 of their top 6? Interesting.

No sense to protect somebody who's a UFA in two weeks

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
I, for one, am shocked that the Edmonton Oilers tanked the value of a skilled forward by poo poo talking him mercilessly before trading him, failing to get a good return.

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
Oilers fans better hope they win a cup in the next two years because Chiarelli is absolutely dumb enough to trade Draisaitl

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
The Hawks are loving dead and I love it.

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Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
This is what happens when teams refuse to bail the Hawks out of bad contracts for players like Seabrook. Bedlam.

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