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have the secularists ever actually won an election in turkey
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Apr 8, 2017 02:48
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Troy Queef posted:most presidents before Erdogan were secularist because Ataturk was heavily influenced by the French and their "church and state should be as far apart as possible" policies. plus, if anyone got a bit too Islamist the army would step in, because they believed themselves to be the true guardians of Kemalism. yeah but almost none of those guys ever won an election if you go back and look at turkish elections, the ones that were actually free and fair were almost always won by islamists (who may or may not then be couped later)
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Apr 8, 2017 07:17
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of the ones i see where chp wasn't the only party, they won: 1946, 1961, 1973, 1977 (all three with with a small plurality) they haven't come anywhere close to winning an election since 1977, unless you count dsp as a continuation in which case they "won" by getting 20% of the vote in 1999 (chp actually got 0 seats)
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Apr 8, 2017 15:58
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Alienwarehouse posted:So this referendum pretty much confirms that Erdogan's rhetoric about joining the EU was all bullshit, right? I saw a tweet about Turkey having a referendum on their EU application, which seems like the international relations version of "you can't fire me, I quit"
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Apr 18, 2017 01:39
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