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Something Awful Turkish Referendum Straw Poll
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Alienwarehouse
Apr 1, 2017

So we can pretty much write off Turkey if this passes, right? How is this any different from the Enabling Act of 1933 in Germany?

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Alienwarehouse
Apr 1, 2017

What caused Erdogan to go so batshit insane anyway?

Alienwarehouse
Apr 1, 2017

The sad part is how so many Turks seem to be on board with Erdogan. I guess that rhetoric about "restoring the Ottoman Empire" is really appealing to poverty-stricken Turkmen.

Alienwarehouse
Apr 1, 2017

Jose posted:

Erdogan has been impressively efficient at becoming a dictator semi-legitimately

quote:

When during a televised press conference he was asked if he believed a presidential system was possible in a unitary state he affirmed this and cited Nazi Germany as an example of how this is possible.[241]

Alienwarehouse
Apr 1, 2017

Bip Roberts posted:

Voting to end democracy is cool.

All he had to do was call his opponents islamophobes.

Alienwarehouse
Apr 1, 2017

America's role in overthrowing two governments on their southern border—along with funding various paramilitary groups in the vacuum left afterwards—probably made it easier for Erdogan to consolidate dictatorial control over the government by using extreme nationalist and religious propaganda.

Alienwarehouse
Apr 1, 2017

Peel posted:

well that is the basic idea of nationalism so

I don't think anyone on the left is really opposed to their country being economically self-sufficient instead of leaving it at the mercy of few unaccountable international bodies. Economic globalism (one world market) with no protections for workers or unions (protectionism) leaves everybody who's not wealthy worse off. It's no coincidence that Trump adopted the anti-free trade rhetoric, because he knew it sounded very appealing to the down-trodden working man (unfortunately they got played by a conman). Protectionism and economic nationalism is not the same thing as ethnic and religious nationalism. Unfortunately, we have a massive, corporate neoliberal lobby that deliberately conflates the two in order to crush any opposition to their laissez-faire economic agenda as bigoted.

It's going to be interesting to watch Erdogan in the coming years after this, though. He now has much more leeway in forging new alliances around the world.

Alienwarehouse
Apr 1, 2017


The woman in the video thumbnail is bangin'. :quagmire:

Alienwarehouse
Apr 1, 2017

Ammanas posted:

They merely chose to have less democracy, since they had too much

Do we have democracy bombs ready to go? Like that 21k lbs one we just dropped in Afghanistan?

Alienwarehouse
Apr 1, 2017

So this referendum pretty much confirms that Erdogan's rhetoric about joining the EU was all bullshit, right?

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Alienwarehouse
Apr 1, 2017

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/17/donald-trump-erdogan-turkey-referendum-congratulations

:lol::lol:

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