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Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




bondster posted:

My favorite part of the reveal is they kept in the fact that it comes out pretty casually. Like in the manga the big reveal was in some small background speech bubbles.

This was really the best part of it. I changed the page and had a moment of mental whiplash and was like "W..what?" and had to turn the page back to process it.

It was all extremely obvious in hindsight, because the armored titan literally has hidden meanings in basically everything he says and does.

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haha no we're not this is only the beginning of the crazy poo poo the series'll do.

Yeah this is basically merely the beginning. This is the ride that never ends.

Nelson Mandingo fucked around with this message at 01:18 on May 7, 2017

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Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




Here is a storytelling device that your brain has picked up on by now, but you might not have fully grasped it yet. Becomes something to talk about with the reveal of Reiner and Berthold. Eren, Mikasa, Armin are each an independent aspect of humanity and can't live without one another. Each represent the Soul, Body, Mind. Eren is the spirit. The other two can survive without him but won't have goals or really be alive. Mikasa as the body that protects the spirit and mind. Armin as the very obvious mind who solves problems and philosophizes. The infiltrator trio of Reiner, Berthold, Annie....embody the very same aspects just in a different way. If you look close enough, this motif goes throughout the entire story. The three walls. The three military branches....

Nelson Mandingo fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Jun 10, 2017

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




Nephthys posted:

Not sure who's supposed to be the Soul, Body or Mind out of Reiner, Bert and Annie.

Reiner is the soul, Berthold is the body, Annie is the mind. Just remember they're similar, but a bit different.

Like Berthold for instance obviously embodies the body with his huge titan and actual height, and cares a lot about Reiner and Annie. Reiner heard Armin's ploy, but he didn't freak out like Berthold did. Kinda like how Mikasa freaked out with Eren being in his captivity. Mikasa devotes herself to Eren and Armin. Berthold laid it out this latest episode he's devoting himself to the mission.

The motif with the 3 branches of the military. You have the survey corps who are the spirit. They have this sweeping and heroic mission that embodies the core of humanity and its desire for freedom. You have the garrison as the body, it's the bulk of the military and it's mission is to protect humanity inside the walls. Then you have military police who embody the mind, but we'll talk about that some other time.

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




OnimaruXLR posted:

Eren's big asspull works out okay because there has to be SOME reason that Reiner and Bert are trying to capture him. His Titan form is pretty handy, but it doesn't really seem to have any significant advantage over theirs or Annie's.

Having a titan form to call upon is a pretty good reason to get someone. But yeah the reason Berthold, Reiner, and Annie were so desperate to kidnap him is because they suspected he had the coordinate. It can control and give commands to titans. If you stop to think about that for a second and the world they live in, this an overwhelmingly powerful ability. As Eren showed in that scene, he wouldn't even need a titan form to effortlessly defeat them. There is nothing they could do to stop him.

Nelson Mandingo fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Jun 19, 2017

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




TheKingofSprings posted:

If a guy can turn into a Titan that's probably a good place to start looking.

My memory of the manga is a little fuzzy but I remember it seeming like he was trying to compel Reiner and Berthold to die and they had to resist the influence as they were running away, is that what actually happened?

No, the commands he gave specifically went out to the titans. The shifters there could feel the orders but didn't have to follow them.

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