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Takes No Damage posted:So if you're willing to call 'so bad it can't be described' a Lovecraft reference then it could work. This is partly why I don't read Lovecraft. I'm guessing that at some point it became a tongue in cheek trope. But it's still annoying to me. Things should not be too crazy, intelligent, powerful, ancient, evil etc. etc. to comprehend. It doesn't invite me to use my imagination; instead it's lazy. On the other hand, things can definitely be described as too handsome or too gross to comprehend. That's intriguing. Too rich to comprehend is also a headscratcher in a fine way. Bright Bart fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Dec 15, 2023 |
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Although a few of Lovecraft's early stories lean on indescribable horrors (eg "The Unnamable"), by the time he kicked off his run of absolute bangers in the mid-20s he'd dropped that angle pretty much entirely, don't let it put you off 
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Also that story very much isn't one of the indescribable terror stories. The cats circle the house under an ominous sky and obviously eat the people bones and all. The townspeople go "gently caress, guess we shouldn't put up with weird cat killers anymore" and they all live happily ever after. That's kind of why I thought it was a weird pick for someone to make for the article. I'm not sure why, other than, you know, talking cats.Clipperton posted:Although a few of Lovecraft's early stories lean on indescribable horrors (eg "The Unnamable"), by the time he kicked off his run of absolute bangers in the mid-20s he'd dropped that angle pretty much entirely, don't let it put you off Yeah, while a few of the stories are "The pillars are shaped weird and I'm freaking out" a lot of the "indescribable" terror is indescribable in the sense that it's trying to build off of feelings of being utterly powerless and alone in a universe that's much bigger than you thought and gives way less of a poo poo about you than you thought. Which I guess is still appropriate for the thread. Even technically has inter-dimensional travel and an in-universe afterlife that's really just a place that traps your dreaming/dead consciousness in a world that you can partially shape.
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In a college writing class I did a radio play of a Lovecraft type story where it turned out the narrator was a cat.
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speaking of Lovecraft and cats,
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Combined his two great passions in life for that one.
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robot roll call posted:speaking of Lovecraft and cats, Oof size: Large.
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Oh good, is it time to rag on Lovecraft again? I looked him up on Wikipedia and it turns out that Lovecraft was a socialist, but, like, not a commie, okay?
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I have this comic idea where some characters try to make a timeline with a more commercially successful, anti-racist Lovecraft.
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Lovecraft the dude sucks but a lot of his stories are great seems pretty on brand for this thread truthfully
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ymgve posted:I know it's dumb in a "that would remove half of the conflict of the episode and would be boring" way, but Rick should have used some of the unlimited energy siphoned to have the device hover 10 miles in the air with a force field made of, let me remind you, unlimited energy, to protect it, instead of trying to negotiate with the vikings That plane if existence is filled with infinite energy, which probably means there is no energy gradient to make use of it there. Opening the tunnel into our universe however allows an infinite flow to come through. This episode was great. Another one where I also completely forgot throughout the entire thing that there was the whole thing with Roiland leaving, the voice actors are smashing it.
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It wasn't well-liked for several reasons I don't think (even though I found it fine) but the dragon episode shows the only dimension where Rick is basically powerless on his own.
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I mean, you could look up the story synopsis on Wikipedia if you don't want to read an incredibly brief short story? But having read it (trap sprung, I guess), it goes: *Old couple are known for torturing and killing cats *Town is too creeped out by old couple to confront them and just tries to keep their pets away *Traveling merchants arrive. One is little boy with tiny black kitten. *Kitten goes missing. *Little boy figures out what's up, prays to eldritch god for revenge. *Creepy poo poo happens and cats descend upon the house and eat the old couple. *Town passes law that its illegal to kill cats, which makes you wonder why they didn't just....do that before. I really don't see any thematic connection between the story and the episode. Parakeet vs. Phone posted:I've heard some people link up the sound/framing as being like the unseen "blood orgy" tape they find in Event Horizon. The reactions are different though, so it doesn't seem like a 1:1 reference. This was my first thought, something about the sound that plays during the reveal reminds me of Event Horizon. But the joke is just about being careful what you wish for and how sometimes we're curious about things with unsatisfying answers.
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Sir, the Vulcans are in another thread.
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SpeakSlow posted:Sir, the Vulcans are in another thread. You know what's lamer than people nerding up a Rick & Morty thread? People who think they're better than them. e: That's a Summer line for you. Or a Morty. Idk I'm not a nerd. Bright Bart fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Dec 15, 2023 |
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Thread, is this a scenario 4?
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Bright Bart posted:What is the reference to what Rick and Jerry saw when mind-scanning the talking cat from season 4? He's from Space, op.
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I think it's really nice that Dr. Wong is showing up more and I hope she's never the subject of some extremely dumb twist. So many stories about flawed, traumatized people who hurt the ones they love always have their efforts sabotaged any time they start to make even a little positive headway in their problems because it's harder for the creators to commit to a choice like that, especially on a show where the main conflict comes from that character's flaws. I think it ends up creating a message that people always go back to their old ways and that anyone who's traumatized and hosed up is doomed to repeat their mistakes and hurt people forever, some people are just broken, etc. I feel like "Therapy is just a thing you can do, it's not scary, it provides practical solutions to your problems, even the smartest man in the universe benefits from it, and you're never too old to try it" is just such a nice message in such a widely-watched show and goes a long way to normalize seeking treatment for mental health. I like that we're seeing Rick slowly grow as a person in what feels like a natural, genuine way, instead of merely stagnating and regressing for the sake of the status quo. e: I guess the rick and morty sincerepost might seem kind of suspect from someone who's never posted here before, I was just rewatching some older episodes and wanted to share my thoughts somewhere. Morty's Mindblowers just really leaned in to what an awful person Rick can be and I feel like he's shown a lot of growth in the new season. Tiny Myers fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Dec 16, 2023 |
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Tiny Myers posted:I think it's really nice that Dr. Wong is showing up more and I hope she's never the subject of some extremely dumb twist. So many stories about flawed, traumatized people who hurt the ones they love always have their efforts sabotaged any time they start to make even a little positive headway in their problems because it's harder for the creators to commit to a choice like that, especially on a show where the main conflict comes from that character's flaws. I think it ends up creating a message that people always go back to their old ways and that anyone who's traumatized and hosed up is doomed to repeat their mistakes and hurt people forever, some people are just broken, etc. yeah arguably the show's consistent moral for the last little while has been "therapy is great"! which is such a good and relevant message to promote. Harmon's come a long way. that said using Wong as a character rather than an mouthpiece for healthy thinking makes me a bit nervous; in Air Force Wong already, her messaging becomes a bit confused and less directly helpful, because she's suddenly directly involved in Rick's relationship mess.
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the one psychic alien in the mind-control president alien predicted bigfoot owning rick
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Mazerunner posted:the one psychic alien in the mind-control president alien predicted bigfoot owning rick gently caress, I was going to keep an eye out for that prediction coming true and completely forgot E: here's a screenshot of the alien's prediction in case anyone wants to compare 
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Blood not realistic. Would never be that surprised about anything. Lab coat wrong. And yeah getting mauled by a bigfoot is probably in the cards at some point. But so is me trying my eggs a new way at breakfast. This supposed to impress me?
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Bright Bart posted:You know what's lamer than people nerding up a Rick & Morty thread? Shields down, Ensign. I was using reverse tacky ohmns. It's ok.
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Real alternate universe take where lovecraft doesn't die young, lives up to the doubts he expresses in his letters at the end of his life, and we see where his writing goes from there
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BiggestBatman posted:lives up to the doubts he expresses in his letters at the end of his life,
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BiggestBatman posted:Real alternate universe take where lovecraft doesn't die young, lives up to the doubts he expresses in his letters at the end of his life, and we see where his writing goes from there With my idea they watch a bunch of civil rights documentaries and then send him back to his timeline with the transistor patent.
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BiggestBatman posted:Real alternate universe take where lovecraft doesn't die young, lives up to the doubts he expresses in his letters at the end of his life, and we see where his writing goes from there Shhh they're not ready to let go of the pearls yet. If they even ever will be. Sometimes it's just easier to go off of tenth-hand information, you know?
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:Shhh they're not ready to let go of the pearls yet.
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:Shhh they're not ready to let go of the pearls yet. What was the cat actually called?
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LividLiquid posted:Did he like, almost stop being racist or something? I've not heard of this. he was never really "not racist" but he had a lot of correspondents who argued with him vehemently, and he was slowly, begrudgingly adopting some of their ideas. it wasn't really a "paul on the road to damascus" moment tho
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Strawman posted:What was the cat actually called? This is an excellent example of what I was implying. My only point here is that original sources, or as near as you can get, are always better than cherry-picked and arranged without original context. Who knows how far Lovecraft could have moved towards the light given more time? He was obviously mentally ill.
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:This is an excellent example of what I was implying. Are all mentally ill people racists who should be judged on that basis? What was his cat called? Strawman fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Dec 18, 2023 |
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Yeah, maybe don't stan racists just because you like their art. Racism isn't a mental illness.
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I'm still not sure about the anime. Feels like one of those things where they assume that just because an 11-minute version was cool that you could drag it out for a season. Happy to be wrong though. Kind of a weirdly nice episode to wrap up the season on. I knew it was coming but the "I'm becoming my dad" joke still got me
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That was a perfectly paced episode. All of the jokes and misdirects went on just long enough for maximum impact and nothing overstayed its welcome. The ending was also surprisingly sweet, while feeling earned and honest to the characters. I really love it when Rick and Morty threads the needle on this kind of thing, managing to be cynical and earnest at the same time. I'm pretty sure this episode goes in my top 5.
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That was a really beautiful episode. Morty's little list of what he likes best about Jessica, and then it being mocked because it said "top five" when it was actually four, lmao Morty's fear-hole is obviously dubiously canon, but it was a very clever way to show off Diane's personality and what would've led to her and Rick falling in love - her being smart as a whip, sweet, and able to drink him under the table - while being able to say "that wasn't actually canon" later if they need to. As well as really leaning into how sad and hosed up Rick was after her death. Reading her entire master's thesis, being a lightweight until after her death where he started drinking heavily, etc. Feels a lot like the "that was a lie and not my real backstory... or was it?" fake-out in Season 3's opening. Summer's wedding, with the streak of blue in Space Beth's hair getting bigger and resembling Rick's hair color much more  Rick being initially extremely ready to leap in the hole, especially because Morty mentioned Diane, but having the growth, restraint, and willingness to trust Morty to not jump in himself. Not immediately answering "no" when Morty asks if he's irreplaceable, which I think he could've and easily would've in an earlier season. And to cap all of that off, having a picture of Morty - not even, like, a good one, a really awkward looking but earnest one - in his wallet, and putting it there, like "Morty was here and did something intensely difficult". That killed me a little. Like, at the end of the day, despite everything about him, his cynicism and acerbic nature, he's still a proud grandpa who keeps pictures of his grandkids in his fuckin' wallet now. Like yeah you could bullshit something like oh, he needs a picture of Morty to be like "have you seen this little turd" when Morty gets lost on an alien planet, but especially after the poignance of what came behind it, the sentimentality doesn't feel indeliberate. Tiny Myers fucked around with this message at 07:23 on Dec 18, 2023 |
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I know the ending of this episode resolved it, but whenever this show finally wraps up, the last shot of the entire series in the post-credits tag needs to be Rick and Morty crawling out of the Fear Hole.
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Strawman posted:Are all mentally ill people racists who should be judged on that basis? What was his cat called? Lovecraft was racist AND mentally ill, and a weird little guy on top of that. not everyone that is mentally ill is racist but tbh I don't think it helped in his case because in his own words it "kept me in seclusion, limited my knowledge of the world, & given me something of the fatuous effusiveness of a belated adolescent". Dude probably would have still been low key racist if he got out more, but touching grass earlier would have helped a LOT.
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Bonk posted:I know the ending of this episode resolved it, but whenever this show finally wraps up, the last shot of the entire series in the post-credits tag needs to be Rick and Morty crawling out of the Fear Hole. They already hit that one when Rick asked if they'd be crawling out of the hole two seasons later. A solid season-ender. Good jokes and some nice payoffs for the characters. I'm really glad they made Big Canon Event a mid-season episode and this one the finale. I think most shows, even most seasons of this show, woulda made Rick Prime vs. Evil Morty final episode, but I think it works much better this way around.
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