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massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

I assumed that Summer was going to leave deathstalker guy when she realised he reminded he of her dad. I thought that was the point of his neurotic monologue anyway.

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massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Which episode is it where Rick pulls morty out of school for a "20 minute adventure " and it immediately cuts to "7 days later" and they're in a gruelling space battle?

vermin posted:

I think Jerry's gonna commit suicide at the end of the season.

Out of character if only because he wouldn't have the balls.

massive spider fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Aug 11, 2017

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Oh that explains it

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

prefect posted:

I don't know about "doesn't play well with others" being something that could apply to all of them.

Its a broad superhero cliche that they all say some variation of that or beat up on each other a bit right before they join the team.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

paradoxGentleman posted:

I don't know if I agree with Rick's analysis of Jerry. The way he's been characterized, he doesn't come across as a clever manipulator who plays on pity; he comes across as a dude who is just not all that capable and as such is pitiable.

The possibility that I feel for Jerry because I feel like I resemble him more than anyone else in the cast burns in my mind.

Its not a conscious manipulation on Jerrys part but emotional blackmail is a pretty common way of life for some people.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Avasculous posted:

Except that we know from the first cable episode that Jerry and Beth didn't get together and didn't have Summer in almost every other universe.

Which, now that I think about it, totally contradicts the premise of Jerry Daycare.

No, there are other universes with a summer, it's just that in every universe with a summer, Jerry and Beth's life goals get crushed.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

techknight posted:

Agh, I hated that - it undermines the there's-my-grave scene from IDC1 (if they actually did end up running from the squirrels. )

Why? That still happened.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Rick breaking the fourth wall to say theyre doing this instead of interdimensional cable seemed a bit unnecessary, with just the scenes of them sitting down to watch it and ending the episode waking up in front of it the point would have been Got.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

OmegaBR posted:

Gotta say, I was massively underwhelmed by that episode, to the point I would say it was one of the worst of the series.

Froopyland served as irrelevant scenery as Beth discovered she was a psycho kid who left another kid to rot in imagination land, judged him for his decision to create and eat his children out of a need for survival, refused to apologize for it, realized she was indeed her father, and used this realization to gleefully slaughter all the life she was responsible for. But it's all cool because she's TINY RICK! She's not evil, she's smart! She could get a clone and go off and explore the universe ! And honestly, I don't think she did, which makes her awesome because she gave all that up to be with her family. Aww.

It all just reads like self-serving fanfiction. The adventure, the crazy settings, the wacky gadgets, the kooky creatures/aliens - it's all pointless when we can have the characters hash out their feelings for twenty minutes. And Beth comes out a badass as cool as Rick all because she realized she is his daughter. Sorry, but she was the most interesting character that had the least amount of screen time, and now it's like Rick says every other episode (which is a problem in of itself:) everything pointless, nothing matters. Her character is unchanged, her marriage is unchanged, her relationship with her father is seemingly unchanged (especially with the free pass of wondering if she's the clone or not.)



Who said Beth was cool or badass?

Jackapol posted:



Why is it even an option for Beth, if she wants to leave why didn't they all just gently caress off with her,

If she wanted to leave, she would want to leave the whole being a single mom behind thing too and would leave without the kids.

The implication is that she's (potentially) a poo poo parent just like Rick, who abandoned his kid first in the made-up land then later walked out entirely to have his fun space adventures.

massive spider fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Sep 25, 2017

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

TBF I do get how you can read that scene as an exposition of Ricks "Our problem is that we're just too SMART to fit in" which is the attitude which makes certain parts of the rick and morty fanbase so insufferable.

But the character making that claim is Rick himself, and you're under no obligation to take his claim at face value.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

OmegaBR posted:

As if Summer forcing him to admit he's a "closet racist, sexist beta male" wasn't cheap and terrible. Or Beth visiting her childhood fantasy land only for a brief few moments so she could realize she's just like her dad and gleefully slaughter the boy she abandoned there, justified by the idea that she's not evil but smart, didn't read like someone's bad fanfiction.



Who justified it?

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

WampaLord posted:

I'm not saying no one is actually good, there are shitloads of actually good people who aren't deluding themselves. But you'll find very few "bad people who know they're bad."


Nah, people with depression think they're bad. People with self destructive tendencies often do it because they know or least suspect they're bad and want to punish themselves.

To take this back to the show, Rick rarely tries to justify his actions and has a death wish. He knows he's bad.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

I laughed at "I chose someplace you'll never find us" vs "I knew we shouldnt have gone to the same cabin as last time!" You know that in Morty's mind "but he'll never look in the same place twice" was being super sneaky.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

This episode kind of felt like a reaction to the fans who get super invested in Nihlist Badass Rick. He got to be at his most badass with even the president admitting he's basically an unkillable god, then got totally undercut at the end, with the family realising that even though he could kill every one of them or leave on a whim they don't have to be in thrall to him.

He even got to deliver his "nothing matters" and "your problem is that we're too smart" speeches again and neither of them landed. Even JERRY got a win.

massive spider fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Oct 2, 2017

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Jonas Albrecht posted:

Here's my baseless fan theory: the US didn't have a superscience division until the President met rick. He was so impressed by him that he started funneling defense dollars into gunmechs and fight kids and lovely portals.

This is sci fi TV show government so I assume that means stuff like the roswell crash happened and MK ULTRA actually worked because thats how sci fi TV show government always works.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

NecroMonster posted:

nothing about the weirdo jumping on the counter and naruto running away looks the least bit genuine. it is totally a bit he did for the sake of his friend(s) who are recording the video.

It's clearly ironic but we must recall the fabled lesson of permabanned poster niggerstomper58

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Milky Moor posted:

Separate the art from the artist and you'll be much happier.

I do see a fair bit of Harmon in Rick though. Harmon seems like kind of guy who has Issues but is also aware that he has Issues, and Rick is a crazy, alcoholic (possibly on the spectrum) perfectionist-obsessive nut whose a danger to those around him.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Bust Rodd posted:

The two hour argument loop was the only ‘bit’ that didn’t land for me. The writing doesn’t make it clear what broke the loop, so I got no payoff.


It was a Wargames reference, in Wargames they dissuade the military bot from starting nuclear war by making it do thousands of games of tic-tac-toe until it realises some games are just pointless stalemates. Heistbots line is a riff of "strange game, the only winning move is not to play".

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Strong https://www.oglaf.com/ (nsfw) vibes from the slut dragons this episode.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006


I always notice the weird cartoon frogs and I love them.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

The reddit format also has the side effect of making every Redditor sound like the exact same person, because only posts which talk in a particular voice (Stating basic truisms in a way that doesn't offend the average Redditor enough to get downvoted) get upvoted.

Phenotype posted:

Yeah, the action scenes are only really worth doing when they make them interesting. The Pickle Rick episode was the peak of this, in my opinion -- it wasn't just Rick fighting a bunch of people, it was an intricately-designed power armor suit made out of rat skeletons and sewer trash plugged into a pickle who was killing rats with a variety of cobbled-together weapons like exacto blades and screws, or firing Duracell-powered cannons and binding up his wounds with bits from a leftover sandwich. Shooting people with lasers is fun but boring and generic, I'm here for the funny sci-fi poo poo like the intricate high-tech cannon that deploys out of Rick's arm only to fire a suction-tipped dart to steal the other guy's gun.

I'm a fan of 'if you touch me you just die instantly and there's no afterlife'.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Bust Rodd posted:

There have been no “bad” seasons of Rick & Morty. The worst, dullest season of Rick & Morty is still funnier than the next most interesting cartoon on TV.

Sperm episode complainers are church-going crybabies who got their bonnets twisted up in their knickers.

I couldn’t even finish Solar Opposites S2 because the Middleditch sex club stuff bummed me out so bad, it was all I could think of while trying to laugh at the other characters, so I guess that piece of poo poo ruined that show for me, lol.

Indeed. I have never been compelled to rank a season of this show. Some episodes like dragonsex have dragged a little but who cares. Its not like say, Game of Thrones where its ostensibly supposed to be taken seriously and then there is a moment where you can't anymore and its ruined.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

The thing I love about the Mr Frundles gag is Jerry doesent turn as soon as he’s bit, only his ankle does, then his ankle bites his face so he’s two seperate Mr Frundles. All the while Mr Frundles isn’t even rushing to bite stuff, he knows he’s inevitable.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Alchenar posted:

My only issue with Mr Frundles is that I've heard Roiland use that same voice a dozen times now.

I’ve always taken the lovely voices to be part if the joke. I mean it’s called mr Frundles, just like mr meeseeks, mr nimbus and mr poopybutthole. The low effort “oh it’s one of these dumb loving things” is intentional.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Reference explainer here: the "I hate everybody" sign was the original sign used for filming on location and the edited for TV version of Die Hard with a Vengeance so Willis didnt actually have to walk around with a racial slur on him.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Chemtrailologist posted:

Wait, did people here not like the after-credits scene? I thought it was as funny as the rest of the episode.

Yeah it was a dumb gag but the punchline of Morty suddenly realising exactly what kind of dumb gag he was in was great.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Bleck posted:

The content and context of the twitter account @MartyAmericaUSA seem to pretty heavily imply that the above linked screenshots from them specifically were faked, probably to poke fun at how wondering aloud whether or not they're faked will probably immediately have you accused of discrediting victims of assault.

It's not something I endorse, to be clear.

I don’t get this. The posters account appears to be half ironic shitposting half apparently serious posting but that could also describe for a lot of people who post on this forum.

The screenshots they’re posting roilands writing voice fit me the same tone as all the shots that other people have shared. So they completely nail faking Roilands voice and then *later* other texts come out that sound similar?

At some point a cunning ruse starts sounding less convincing than the more simple explanation.

massive spider fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Jan 17, 2023

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Which post was fake?

If you’re talking about the ones posted earlier where people were going, “oh that’s clearly fake” because the martyamericaUSA Twitter poster seemed sus, as I understand it they were the only source because the girl who posted it had since deleted it due to getting horrible DMs. There’s a follow up

https://twitter.com/MartyAmericaUSA/status/1615824617184133121?s=20&t=fEIJUjTAozX1iFDTaBbBag

It's not implausible to me that someone would repost something thats going to get them harassed on their alt account not their personal one.

massive spider fucked around with this message at 10:27 on Jan 19, 2023

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Hakkesshu posted:

Watch the show or don't watch the show, no one really cares what you do aside from yourself. But don't get into a whole existential crisis about Rick and Morty of all things, it's fine to simply not watch this cartoon if you feel conflicted at all. Move on. And don't act like you're doing the universe a cosmic favour by still watching it through piracy.

I do in fact care. Or rather while I will not judge whomever this post is directed at for their choice to watch or not I encourage them expressing their feelings and distaste in whatever manner they choose. I hope you are well, random person this post is referring to.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

No ones asking why didnt you stop it, the question is if you knew.

either

a) you knew Roland was a pedohpile and did not mention it, instead posting itt a month ago defending from criticism that there was anything reactionary in it

b) you didnt know jack poo poo and are posturing in a very poor taste way

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Having someone you worked with for the last decade be outed as a pedophile and spouse abuser can't be particularly fun so if they do address it in a fourth wall break it wouldn't expect it to be something flippant. Either Roiland gets memory holed and its never brought up entirely, or any comments made on it will be vicious.

What I'm curious about is the whole "Created by Dan Harmon and Justin Roiland" thing that splashes up at the start of every episode. if thats contractually required to be there or what.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Zesty posted:

Yes, they will certainly reference it or they won't.

I mean ive been seeing a lot of 'heres a joke they could make!' type riffs that are missing the mark a lot.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

curse of flubber posted:

huh weird goons defending rapists forever and upholding rape culture in the posts after this one from 2017.

It is neat how internet archiving can provide dossier proof of who can and cannot legitimately say I Fuckin' Called It

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

CatstropheWaitress posted:

He does end the run because he (rightfully imo) notices all the problems he's ranting about are rich people problems. That's got to be grinding to do in front of an audience of people in LA undoubtably making peanuts. Was also in a good place having signed the R&M multi-season deal, engaged, and really could only blow it up by getting too drunk and having another Chevy Chase moment.

https://twitter.com/alecrobbins/status/1618335768631734273

This guy's remarks make me borderline optimistic for where the show goes post-Roiland. From the outside it seemed like he was integral, but if what he said is true maybe it'll chug along just fine. Will be kind of fascinating to see if the show can survive the PR hit.

The thing is while he *might* be the essential comedic spark behind the show he’s the guy who wrote “it’s so raaaate and me so chineeese” to a 15 year old which along with his character also calls his comedic writing abilities into question.

His original doc and mahrti cartoon set the tone, but it was a back to the future parody with swears. I wonder how many dudes out there on newgrounds making shadow the hedgehog animations could have been big but never found their Harmon to make it work.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

hatty posted:

I think that one was a fake made by a professional poo poo stirrer

This one?

https://twitter.com/un05733352/status/1616045781886140417?s=20&t=sVXM4hTi-kaT_yfNuufp1g

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Hollywood Reporter have a "heres the meltdown" story. It claims that Roiland and Harmon haven't been on speaking terms for a while.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/justin-roiland-animation-empire-implosion-rick-and-morty-1235319366/

quote:

At some point during the third season of Rick and Morty, multiple sources say Roiland simply stopped showing up — and when he did turn up in the Burbank offices, he’d typically avoid the writers room. In fact, Roiland’s colleagues often knew he was there only because they could hear his dogs. Or they’d hear his remote-control toy car, which had a microphone on top of it, zooming around the office. At least once, Roiland sent it into the writers room, says a source. “You wouldn’t have seen him in weeks, and then you’d see the car come in, which was insane.” Roiland would make exceptions to bring through famous fans, of which Rick and Morty has legions; at various points, his visitors included Kanye West, the comedians on Impractical Jokers and porn star Riley Reid, who gifted the room a succulent.

By that time, Roiland had a girlfriend, who became a fiancée, and he would talk openly about their penchant for threesomes. “It was something we just ignored because it was disgusting,” says an insider. Multiple sources say it was also during that period that Roiland sent a female employee a “really creepy” text, late at night, requesting that she come to his home (they declined to name the staffer). “She didn’t want to run it up the flagpole,” says one of the sources, “and then it was just this really hosed-up, awkward thing.”


the stuff about cruising for threesomes came up a lot in the leaked texts to fans

massive spider fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Feb 7, 2023

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Him being a lazy goof off in and of itself is fine and I will totally support peoples right to be lazy goof offs so long as their job isnt like, air traffic controller. Its the sex pesting thats the issue. Guy should have just sat back literally phoning in his lines leaving the writing to the good writers and not sex pesting anyone and he would have been alright.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

I do wonder what an acceptable level of loving around is for the writers room of a comedy show since there’s ~the creative process~ and probably a lot of ideas come while someone’s talking about their crazy weekend or idly staring into space playing with a gundam figurine.

I listened to one of the Harmontown episodes with roiland on it though once and he does seem like he genuinely likes annoying people and getting under their skin.

There’s one where he’s got a bit about how aliens are covertly invading earth and it’s a mildly amusing premise but he keeps it going to the point where the other guests are desperately trying to improv with it and find the humour in the bit and he keeps dragging it going - “no this is real aliens are invading earth it’s actually going to happen it’s not funny” and doing whatever the opposite of a “yes, and” is.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006


Solid choice using the Rick voice rather than the morty one. Roilands usual voice sounds closer to morty, but then that’s how he clearly thinks of himself: Harmless goofball, still basically a teenager himself etc etc

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massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Recast Rick and morty with a new VO each episode in the hope that sheer statistical probability means they can’t all turn out to be sex offenders.

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