|
Like every generation before you you are born in the last generation so you don't have to worry about the world continuing after you are gone.
|
#
¿
Apr 4, 2017 03:38
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 21, 2024 05:01 |
|
|
Global warming is a real and actual problem but it's also the new thing people slotted 1 for 1 into all the nuclear war fantasy from the cold war and given people a really weird idea of what the issues global warming might cause are.
|
|
#
¿
Apr 4, 2017 17:12
|
|
|
Paradoxish posted:Sea level rise is a massive threat to even developed nations. Not enough to cause anything that might be described as a "collapse," but basically all of the major economic centers in the US are vulnerable to knock-on effects from it. Miami is a dead city walking at this point and that's going to happen before sea levels ever get high enough to flood the streets. The cost of protecting, say, New York is going to be non-trivial. It's a sea level rise measured in feet per century. It does not pose an existential risk to new york city. It's not that kind of threat. Which sucks, because just by posting this the response is going to be "are you saying it's not serious, huh? are you saying it's FAKE" and that isn't what I'm saying. I am saying when new york city spends some money it could have spent fixing roads or whatever fixing seawalls people won't notice and will declare global warming a fake chicken little thing, and when 8 million people are starving in africa they won't distinguish that they are different people than the people that were starving before and just pretend nothing happened. and a lot of things will happen so slow they will just be the way things always were their whole life and "normal". But if the metric of "did this get bad" is if new york falls into the sea, no, it probably won't do that.
|
|
#
¿
Apr 4, 2017 18:28
|
|
|
Paradoxish posted:As usual, you really have no idea at all what you're talking about. NYC isn't going to sink and that isn't the problem. Even relatively small increases in sea level put parts of the city that were never threatened by flooding at risk, and combined with increased precipitation that makes the entire city significantly more vulnerable to severe weather effects than it has been in the past. This is an expensive and non-trivial problem to solve. For a city like Miami where seawater infiltration is the larger threat it is literally an unsolvable problem. For areas that are less economically important, policies of managed retreat are going to be the only real options. None of this is Mad Max apocalyptic fantasy. The thread is about collapse. If you are talking about global warming you can talk about it without worrying if new york city will be destroyed. It won't. The things and the people that global warming threaten with nonexistence are mostly not well funded cities in western countries. It's not that kind of threat.
|
|
#
¿
Apr 4, 2017 19:41
|
|
|
TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:That thread is basically the "intellectual" version of the guy screaming about the endtimes on the corner with the crazy sign. Basically: "collapse" is basically a lazy way to not think about any problems having consequences it's better then ignoring the problem but it's basically just pretending that there will be a game over screen or end credits and everything dies and that is the end and removes responsibility for having to worry about actual negative effects things could have.
|
|
#
¿
Apr 4, 2017 22:24
|
|