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Tree Goat
May 24, 2009

argania spinosa
let’s meet the birds. today’s bird is the main bird of the book, the hoopoe.

for those of you who live in north america and/or northern europe, you might naturally wonder:

q: what is a hoopoe?
a: a hoopoe is a neat bird with a folding crest of feathers on its head

q: what does it look like?
a: reddish-dun breast, black and white wings, orange feathered crest with black and white spots, long curved beak.


q: where does it live?
a: throughout europe and asia, with the exception of the nordic countries and the british isles.

q: what does it sound like?
a: its call sounds pretty much like the "whoop whoop" sirens in krs one's "sound of da police "

q: does it shut the gently caress up when you are trying to sleep?
a: no

q: is it wise irl? or is it just depicted as wise in the book?
a: idk, the ones i have seen mostly fly around + eat bugs + make noise.

q: is enlightenment possible without utter, voluntary, submission to G-d?
a: great question! no.

let me know if you have any additional questions about hoopoes, or any of the other birds you encounter in this book.

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Tree Goat
May 24, 2009

argania spinosa

that passage originally shows up as a part of an entry in borges' "book of imaginary beings" iirc. he reused it for the essay "the simurgh and the eagle" later (but don't trust my chronology on that one).

A human heart posted:

Thank you for the bird information.

when it comes to bird facts, i aim to please.

Tree Goat
May 24, 2009

argania spinosa
today’s bird is the huma/homa

q: what is a huma?
a: a bird that never touches the ground but is always in flight

q: what happens if you catch it?
a: you can’t catch it, it is 1) mythical and 2) impossible to catch since it is always high in the air. even being close enough to see its shadow is a sign of good fortune. depending on the myth, if you do catch one, you die in 40 days.

q: what happens when you see its shadow?
a: in conference of the birds, you are supposed to then be marked for kingship. other sources say that you will be happy for the rest of your life. in later myths, it had to land on your shoulder in order for the kingship thing to work out. in some versions, the eternal happiness thing happens when hearing its song, rather than seeing its shadow.

q: what does it look like?
unclear? some common elements seem to be feathers like jewels, and a big eagle-like curved beak.


q: did it ever appear in an episode of mst3k?
a: yes. in Садко (US: The Magic Voyage of Sinbad), one of the plot elements was seeking “the bird of paradise/happiness,” a bird whose song is sweet enough to grant happiness to whoever hears it, a direct mythological descendent of the huma. somewhat paralleling conference of the birds, sadko learns later over the course of his quest that true happiness is in his homeland, and he need not have journeyed far for it.

q: who should have been the first caliph, after the death of the Prophet?
a: attar was okay with the choice of abu bakr, but other people think it should have jumped directly to ali. curious to see what the thread thinks about this one!

Tree Goat fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Apr 16, 2017

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