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SomeMathGuy
Oct 4, 2014

The people were ASTONISHED at his doctrine.

Hell yeah let's do this. :redflag:

Anyone else have the Penguin edition? Because part of me kind of wants to tackle this gigantic introduction and the rest of me really doesn't, so if anyone strongly recommends/strongly recommends against reading it I'm all ears.

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SomeMathGuy
Oct 4, 2014

The people were ASTONISHED at his doctrine.

Peel posted:

For me the most interesting question coming out of these chapters is how Marx's approach to money need be updated for the fiat era, but chapter 3 is also about money so there's a limit to how far we can go with that.

I don't know that fiat currency requires an update, it seemed to me Marx was arguing that money becomes A Thing (TM) because it acquires a perceived position as the final arbiter on relative value. A fiat currency then replaces something with a certain perceived value and a high labor value (like gold mined from the hills) with something with an equivalent perceived value and a lower labor value.

SomeMathGuy
Oct 4, 2014

The people were ASTONISHED at his doctrine.

That's a good point, but I'm skeptical that money "must" be a commodity in order for Marx's theory to work given some of his objections to Proudhon and then-contemporary pro-labor voucher anarchists. Perhaps there'll be more coverage in Chapter Three.

In any case I am honestly surprised at how comparatively readable the first two chapters are. I was expecting something... drier? More convoluted? It strikes a nice balance between scientific writing and more traditional prose.

SomeMathGuy
Oct 4, 2014

The people were ASTONISHED at his doctrine.

Aeolius posted:

I can upload some supplemental papers I found helpful on this when I get home.

I'd certainly be interested; I like this idea that gold is still money even though it no longer "formally" backs up the value of currency as that definitely tracks with how I see people commenting on the markets.

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