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DontMockMySmock
Aug 9, 2008

I got this title for the dumbest fucking possible take on sea shanties. Specifically, I derailed the meme thread because sailors in the 18th century weren't woke enough for me, and you shouldn't sing sea shanties. In fact, don't have any fun ever.
So lately I've decided to try my hand at the Pantheon of Hallownest. I gotta say, Markoth-GPZ-Failed Champion-NKG is one hell of a series to have to do in a row without a bench, especially since it takes like half an hour to get there for each attempt.

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DontMockMySmock
Aug 9, 2008

I got this title for the dumbest fucking possible take on sea shanties. Specifically, I derailed the meme thread because sailors in the 18th century weren't woke enough for me, and you shouldn't sing sea shanties. In fact, don't have any fun ever.
Personally I kept dreamgate at a stag station 100% of the time on my first playthrough.

I think the worst boss runs for me were Soul Master and Mantis Lords, not because they're inherently worse than Traitor Lord, but because by the time I did Traitor Lord I was starting to get good at the game.

DontMockMySmock
Aug 9, 2008

I got this title for the dumbest fucking possible take on sea shanties. Specifically, I derailed the meme thread because sailors in the 18th century weren't woke enough for me, and you shouldn't sing sea shanties. In fact, don't have any fun ever.

Meaty Ore posted:

Finally managed to beat NKG. The only thing left for me to do is Pantheon of Hollownest. Between NKG, Pure Vessel, and Absolute Radiance, though, I'm not sure I can manage it. I'm not liking the looks of Uumuu or Markoth in that pantheon, either.

I still haven't done it. Markoth is loving brutal, worse than every other fight combined.

Uumuu is easy imo.

DontMockMySmock
Aug 9, 2008

I got this title for the dumbest fucking possible take on sea shanties. Specifically, I derailed the meme thread because sailors in the 18th century weren't woke enough for me, and you shouldn't sing sea shanties. In fact, don't have any fun ever.
The only bad boss runback in the game, in my opinion, is Soul Master. Honestly, the Soul Master runback is one of the biggest flaws in an otherwise near-perfect game imo.

DontMockMySmock
Aug 9, 2008

I got this title for the dumbest fucking possible take on sea shanties. Specifically, I derailed the meme thread because sailors in the 18th century weren't woke enough for me, and you shouldn't sing sea shanties. In fact, don't have any fun ever.

Cartoon Man posted:

I wouldn’t go so far as to call it a flaw, but it sucks that it’s an early difficult fight that gatekeeps a critical ability you need to open up large parts of the world.

That's not what makes it bad. On your first playthrough you don't even know that it is going to give you dive (though if you got to phase 2 before dying, and you also encountered some dive floors earlier, you might figure it out).

What makes it bad is that it's part of the "natural" progression of the game just after getting Mantis Claw, so when you get there you're probably still going to be a bit of a noob. You're heavily signposted to go in that direction after you see Hornet jumping across the entrance to the City in Fungal Wastes, then get the ability you need to cross that gap yourself. Maybe you fight Mantis Lords first, but pretty soon you're going to head into City. So you do so, and not long after, you find yourself in Soul Sanctum. You may or may not end up heading in the direction of the nailsmith first; if you do, then Soul Master is a lot less of a problem. But if you don't, your money that you might need to go acquire a nail upgrade or better charms is stuck in your shade in Soul Master's room. Woe betide you if you sold relics to Lemm first, because there's a very real risk of losing your geo. Soul sanctum is full of enemies that teleport randomly and shoot projectiles. They're hard to hit, and if you don't kill them, they'll teleport on top of the place you're dashing to, hit you on contact, then shoot a fireball at you to hit you again. And they die quickly so you can't get much soul from them. It's very much a sudden escalation of danger (of losing a huge quantity of geo) compared to anything else you've encountered so far, even the Mantis Lords fight (a much more challenging boss imo).

The only saving grace is that the boss itself is not actually that hard. On my first playthrough, I think I died once. But even then, I still remember that runback. The Mantis Lords runback also stood out, as I died a few times on them. But even though it's a bit long, it's easy enough to refill soul from carefully and cautiously fighting mantises; you can't really say the same for teleporting soul fuckers.

Pretty much any boss runback after those two isn't bad at all; Traitor Lord and Hive Knight would be the main contenders but you almost certainly have Dreamgate before then.

DontMockMySmock
Aug 9, 2008

I got this title for the dumbest fucking possible take on sea shanties. Specifically, I derailed the meme thread because sailors in the 18th century weren't woke enough for me, and you shouldn't sing sea shanties. In fact, don't have any fun ever.
i did it on my Steel Soul run. If I gently caress up, I die - same applies to Zote :colbert:

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DontMockMySmock
Aug 9, 2008

I got this title for the dumbest fucking possible take on sea shanties. Specifically, I derailed the meme thread because sailors in the 18th century weren't woke enough for me, and you shouldn't sing sea shanties. In fact, don't have any fun ever.

GimmickMan posted:

the old man

Canonically, Elderbug is one of the youngest bugs you meet in the game, as he says the collapse of Hallownest was before he was born, but pretty much every other named bug in the game is confirmed to have been alive either before the Black Egg was sealed or witnessed the subsequent collapse (with a couple notable exceptions of bugs whose age isn't well-known, e.g. Myla, Zote, Willoh). Even bugs that seem young, like Hornet, are confirmed as older than Elderbug. I don't think he's even the oldest bug living in Dirtmouth, as I'm pretty sure that Sly and the Nailmasters were around in Hallownest's heyday.

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