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I'm imagining Shooter sending Claremont a strongly-worded letter explaining that no, he can't include a scene where the robot changes the X-Men's nappies.
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Naw, Peak Claremont is during Asgardian Wars when Amora captured Illyana, and uh...stuff happens. http://imgur.com/a/rNSMO I don't think this is where Magik became my favorite of the New Mutants, but I hope its not.
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twistedmentat posted:Naw, Peak Claremont is during Asgardian Wars when Amora captured Illyana, and uh...stuff happens. Since her first trip to Limbo there's no important part of Illyana's history that isn't, at best, problematic.
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Kalli posted:You don't say. twistedmentat posted:Naw, Peak Claremont is during Asgardian Wars when Amora captured Illyana, and uh...stuff happens.
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Jun 12, 2017 03:51
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:
Yeah, and later Storm apparently and comes back as a child. And with Illyana/Magik her whole origin story is she was a six year old hanging out with her older brother Colossus, until she get's sucked into hell and ages 7 years.
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I mean with Claremont it's more like who wasn't reduced to infancy.
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Skwirl posted:Yeah, and later Storm apparently and comes back as a child This was also the second time a robot named Nanny infantalized the X-men.
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Kalli posted:This was also the second time a robot named Nanny infantalized the X-men. dude, it was literally on the last page and spawned this whole line of discussion
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Skwirl posted:Since her first trip to Limbo there's no important part of Illyana's history that isn't, at best, problematic. Yea I tend to focus more on current, slightly crazy lady with a big sword, Magik. I do miss her bangs though. Teen Storm is also what introduced Gambit. Though he wasn't skeevy to her, just noticed her natural ability at theeving. Even thought Gambit is like the bar on 5th street, they don't ask for ID, and nether does Gambit, ya hear?
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Don't you besmirch the name of Gambit, best big brother figure in the X-Men. ...how old was rogue supposed to be?
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twistedmentat posted:Naw, Peak Claremont is during Asgardian Wars when Amora captured Illyana, and uh...stuff happens. I think Peak Claremont is when he created a team of super-villains where each member's powers corresponded to one of Claremont's fetishes.
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RandallODim posted:...how old was rogue supposed to be? IIRC, she was meant to be a sheltered 18 when she went to Xavier for help.
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RandallODim posted:Don't you besmirch the name of Gambit, best big brother figure in the X-Men. Yeah I'm about to fight someone! Early Gambit is best Gambit.
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Wanderer posted:IIRC, she was meant to be a sheltered 18 when she went to Xavier for help. Which I find weird because the first time I know I saw her was when Wolverine and the then depowered Ms Marvel go to the Pentegon and run into her  She sure as hell looks older than 18. My guess is she just got younger as she drained more peoples abilities. Or the artists wanted another hot redhead on the team, and every time she was drawn she grew younger until we got the Jim Lee Bombshell Rogue that we all know and love. Gambit is more bearable in his early appearances, but he's still the herald of the 90s.
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twistedmentat posted:Which I find weird because the first time I know I saw her was when Wolverine and the then depowered Ms Marvel go to the Pentegon and run into her I think Wanderer was thinking of movie Rogue. I always figured comic Rogue to be about the same age as the original five, and she spent some time rolling with Mystique before she put on the X, so she would have been way past 18. Her relationship with Gambit was the least skeevy thing about him.
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Yeah, reading her original stuff she's definitely older than say, Colossus. Early 20's at the youngest when she first starts hanging with the X-Men.
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They should bring back Excalibur, but with the subtitle being "Coalition of Chaos."
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Skwirl posted:They should bring back Excalibur, but with the subtitle being "Coalition of Chaos." Excal, X-Force and X-Factor were all supposed to be announced at C2E2. The X-Men Gold bullshit gave them cold feet so they're all delayed.
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Skwirl posted:Yeah, reading her original stuff she's definitely older than say, Colossus. Early 20's at the youngest when she first starts hanging with the X-Men. She certainly de-ages over her appearances though. Excalibur would be great to see again. Though I don't know if they could capture the pure craziness of the Claremont series. Though I'd hope they'd be smart enough not to try to replicate that, and let it be its own thing.
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Skwirl posted:They should bring back Excalibur, but with the subtitle being "Coalition of Chaos." Captain Britain's always struck me as a bit of a stodgy old Tory. He'd be supportive of strong and stable superheroics.
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twistedmentat posted:She certainly de-ages over her appearances though. Give it to Al Ewing. That amazing Daredevil riff in the Rocket book this week felt like it was pulled straight out of Excalibur.
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Either Al Ewing, Kieron Gillen or Paul Cornell for Excalibur. And as for the artist, Alan Davis would be ideal, but since he doesn't do so many interiors these days, Richard Elson.
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Rhyno posted:Excal, X-Force and X-Factor were all supposed to be announced at C2E2. The X-Men Gold bullshit gave them cold feet so they're all delayed. If you're talking about the issue with the original artist, that's a shame because it's a solid book and the new artist is so much better than the first.
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Wolverine spoilers: Daken? What? When did he come back to life, lose an arm, regrow an arm, and become not evil? I'm so confused.
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Cabbit posted:Wolverine spoilers: Daken? What? When did he come back to life, lose an arm, regrow an arm, and become not evil? I'm so confused. He was given a life seed by the Apocalypse Twins, I believe. He, Sunfire, Banshee, and one other person I think.
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Sentry is the other one. And it was Grim Reaper instead of Sunfire, Sunfire isn't dead. Aphrodite fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Jun 14, 2017 |
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Aphrodite posted:Sentry is the other one. Oh that's right! Sunfire was on the Uncanny Avenger team then. It's been awhile since I've read v1 of that series.
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Sunfire is in that story and also seemingly dies but he survives as an energy being. Then he gets his body back by his next appearance.
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Remember when Sunfire got both his legs chopped off by Lady Deathstrike and died, but first got Rogue to take his powers permanently so she could bring Deathstrike to justice, and then for a while Rogue had Sunfire's powers permanently? Did Sunfire's younger sister (Sunpyre) ever appear again after the Eve of Destruction storyline from immediately before Morrison and Quitely took over the comic?
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Cabbit posted:Wolverine spoilers: Daken? What? When did he come back to life, lose an arm, regrow an arm, and become not evil? I'm so confused. Wolverines. The last book Laura and Daken were in together before Secret Wars
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Wheat Loaf posted:Remember when Sunfire got both his legs chopped off by Lady Deathstrike and died, but first got Rogue to take his powers permanently so she could bring Deathstrike to justice, and then for a while Rogue had Sunfire's powers permanently? Didn't Apocalypse restore Sunfire? And he even got his AOA appearance in the deal.
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Aphrodite posted:Sentry is the other one. Then Grim Reaper got bonked with a cookie pan on the head and buried in a backyard. 
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So has Magneto returned to his old power levels now after his run-in with the Phoenix in AvX? I'm currently reading his series that runs through Axis and he's pumping himself with MGH.
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Rhyno posted:Didn't Apocalypse restore Sunfire? And he even got his AOA appearance in the deal. I'm not sure - a lot of late 2000s X-Men is a bit blurry to me. I only really know about that because I remember it was one of the first things I read on Wikipedia in maybe 2005 (?) or so. How did Rogue get her Carol Danvers powers back? I remember she lost all her powers in X-Treme X-Men, then she had Sunfire's powers, then there's a bunch of stories I never read and the next one I remember with Rogue in it (would've been Claremont's third run before and during House of M) she's back to normal.
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https://twitter.com/spacetwinks/status/875030875636989952 Well that thread title didnt last long.
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Wheat Loaf posted:How did Rogue get her Carol Danvers powers back? I remember she lost all her powers in X-Treme X-Men, then she had Sunfire's powers, then there's a bunch of stories I never read and the next one I remember with Rogue in it (would've been Claremont's third run before and during House of M) she's back to normal. If I have it right, they're the same powers but not from Carol, they're from Wonder Man.
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Didn't Simon just pop out of Rogue in a recent Uncanny Avengers?
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She just vomitted out Wonder Man after kissing Deadpool a few months back
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In Uncanny Avengers they did one of those Rogue takes everyone's powers to fight a big bad guy thing. Because Wonder Man is his powers he got absorbed into Rogue and they couldn't get him out after. He eventually got out by Rogue copying Deadpool's healing which let Wonder Man heal himself back into existence, somehow. She got to keep the powers.
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Soonmot posted:She just vomitted out Wonder Man after kissing Deadpool a few months back Pretty sure that's how most people would react to kissing Deadpool.
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