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SourKraut posted:If I can get a R5 1600X for $217, is that a good "jump in" price? It seems like a lot of people are going with the R7 1700 (non-X), so want to make sure I'm not missing something. 220 for a 1600x is pretty good, and could get to 3.9 oc.
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Palladium posted:Much of technical advice out on teh Internets can be summed as "my toys are more expensive than yours". or "it works for me I don't know why it doesn't for you"
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May 8, 2017 06:27
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Drakhoran posted:Since we're linking to Videocardz.com, anyone feel like a 48 core "Starship" chip on 7nm next year? That would be awesome I wonder what the pricing will be or if its server only cpu.
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May 11, 2017 21:50
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Funny you should mention that. We finally have a Threadripper, and it's a codename for Ryzen 9 parts that correspond to Intel -E/-X parts. But the most important question goons have what about ecc?
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May 15, 2017 12:19
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MrBadidea posted:My old buildserver finally started to choke a few weeks ago, so I bit the bullet and replaced it before it died entirely. I gotta throw some more memory at it, and actually sort out the memory clocks (the current stuff absolutely refuses to post above 2133), but it's absolutely smoking what I'd have been able to afford for the same budget from Intel. Post like this make me want to get a zen machine up and find a cheap colo place to keep it at.
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May 18, 2017 18:07
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Risky Bisquick posted:mITX x370 instead of the x300 x300 is the super low end right so maybe for partners only that do enterprise poo poo boxes?
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May 29, 2017 18:33
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Drakhoran posted:No, prices on all kinds of cryptocurrency are extremely volatile. One week miners will be buying up every card making them hard to get for actual gamers, next week they sell all their used cards on eBay bringing retail prices crashing down. The people who claim a single pea sized dab of thermal grease will have something break in their mind once that lands in front of them.
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May 30, 2017 10:21
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eames posted:... and terrible performance because of virtualization bugs that AMD won't acknowledge. They know of immou groups issues and are actively working on it.
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May 30, 2017 19:08
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eames posted:We'll find out soon enough I guess. If the interposer is pretty expandable it shouldn't be an issue, and amount to huge savings.
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May 30, 2017 19:50
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:If they can get the infinity fabric fast enough and low enough latency, then it shouldn't be too much of an issue, as long as they address the NUMA issues and make sure that all the context switching costs are known/available to the OS. It would be a great way to salvage marginally performing chips, or chips that are super great except for that huge defect in core 3. Since its single cpu NUMA doesn't come into play with infinity fabric, do note that 1700-1800x parts don't do numa and had other fixes come in without having to use NUMA as a scheduler.
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May 31, 2017 01:01
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Scarecow posted:So if they are doing price cuts to the top end of the r7s does that mean threadripper could be coming in at crazy prices vs intels offerings? A brick of gold is coming in at a crazy price vs what intel offers.
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Jun 1, 2017 23:37
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Scarecow posted:Maybe the rumors of amd getting crazy high yeilds is true then This was the hope with zen smaller dies on an interposer for mondo yields.
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Jun 2, 2017 01:21
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If this is true, zen is even more disruptive then we thought and amd might be profitable one day. https://twitter.com/BitsAndChipsEng/status/870621722051063808 https://twitter.com/BitsAndChipsEng/status/870597420958326788 wargames fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Jun 2, 2017 |
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Jun 2, 2017 15:37
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Vega is the new bulldozer.
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Jun 2, 2017 16:03
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FaustianQ posted:There is no way Threadripper and Eypc don't get picked up for enterprise and worskatation use at these prices, it's literally AMD CPU+MB ≤ Intel CPU. Knowing AMD, they'd throw in discounts for buying completely from them, so that means more GPU sales and more sales of their rebranded SSDs and memory. Has AMD made any moves to either source Qualcomm or acquire their own for ethernet controllers? Doubtful amd is going into that line of research but look at what intel is doing with cross point https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsmoHsB6ITc
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Jun 2, 2017 21:18
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VulgarandStupid posted:These motherboard chipset conventions are getting a little ridiculous. Intel has the X299 chipset, so we'll call our competing chipset the X399. That will show them. AMD did steal the FE short hand from Nvidia so everyone steals everything.
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Amd needed to make a great and they did, They also needed intel to gently caress up hard and that is happening?
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Comatoast posted:What in the world? It's like a 23 minute long MacRumors video. Guy is a fanboy but some of his thoughts aren't completely trash.
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Jun 8, 2017 20:10
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Kazinsal posted:I wonder if there are some chips that really lost the silicon lottery and just don't have enough volts at stock clocks to keep up under a really intense long-running 100% load situation. Would zen2 with just a slight bump to volts all around be a lazy fix for such things or is zen 2 going to be on 7nm? Also what happened to intels 10nm process?
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Jun 9, 2017 08:14
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Kazinsal posted:I suspect a die shrink would be in the cards at some point if AMD can end friendship with GloFo, now Samsung is my best friend. There's no way they could do a competitive 10nm part on the GloFo process. AMD is planning on skipping 10nm and using ibm/samsung/gloflo 7nm in 2018 for zen2, and zen3 will use 7nm refined.
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Jun 9, 2017 09:59
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Measly Twerp posted:
What does 134,699 feet convert to real money?
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Dante80 posted:
Would it be cheaper to pick it up from germany since 30 euros to ship is kind of insane?
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Jun 10, 2017 18:17
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A SWEATY FATBEARD posted:R7 1700 is $422 in Croatia. ASROCK AB350 Pro4 board is $135. I'm obviously itching to retire my FX-8350 rig, yeah, I know, don't ask. I'm so sorry, hell this bundle with 16gb of ram on newegg is 500 https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3406453
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Jun 10, 2017 19:06
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Paul MaudDib posted:Well, that's literally the design AMD proposed for their Exascale Heterogeneous Processor concept, which IIRC was in response to some early-stage/2020-delivery RFP from one of the National Labs or something. And HBM2 lets you go up to 8-high per stack so conceptually you could easily do at least 32 GB of VRAM. Motherboard on chip?
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Jun 16, 2017 00:57
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Wirth1000 posted:Ok, I don't know what to do with this build now. Somebody suggest benchmarks or something. 1600X + B350 + 16GB RAM Only thing that comes to mind to test cpu is Cities skylines but I don't know how multi treaded that is.
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Jun 16, 2017 01:20
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VealCutlet posted:Got my 1600 to 4GHz tonight for some benchmarks, waiting patiently for threadripper... if it makes it to 5GHz I would probably jizz all over my mobo. http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12889394 Threadripper will not make it to 5gz, Threadripper 2 on Zen 2 might. But current threadripper on zen 1 will boost as much as your 1600.
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Jun 16, 2017 18:45
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Kazinsal posted:They ran the Intel systems with the RAM downclocked to 2133 MHz too? WTF? Slower rams effect intel way less then amd.
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Jun 20, 2017 23:41
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Combat Pretzel posted:GPU performance is currently irrelevant for cloud providers. If Microsoft wants to compete with amazon when it comes to tensor computer nodes they will.
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Jun 23, 2017 09:12
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Mr.Radar posted:Ryzen = Desktop We need to rearrange that Ryzen = Desktop Epyc = Server Kittyzen = Mobile Threadripper = Workstation so AMD can REKT cpus.
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Rastor posted:Here's a Gigabyte mini-ITX board for the AMD Ryzen socket AM4 platfrom now one for THREADRIPPER.
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Palladium posted:I think most of us forgot laptop CPUs constitutes maybe like 70% of Intel's consumer market and AMD has been non existent there for a decade. ultrabay2000 posted:I wouldn't buy one but they seem to do alright in the Walmart laptop segment. Seems like a large chunk of cheap laptops I see have AMD CPUs. as one of those people that got a 300 dollar best buy laptop with an A8 amd processor in it, its not bad the only thing I hated about the laptop was its harddrive but I replaced it and it does it job just fine.
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Paul MaudDib posted:I see AMD is embracing Intel's nonsense model names. Intel has gone to gold, silver, platinum for their xeons so good on amd for atleast sticking to numbers
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Jul 6, 2017 21:15
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Nam Taf posted:This triggers me because it makes sense until the 1950/X which should be the 1960/X what about the 1910? basically its all bad names.
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Munkeymon posted:That's just the L3 cache Current HBM2 on vega(poo poo card) is 900ish mhz but drops to 500 if you change anything.
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Cygni posted:GPUs are theoretically more suited to multiple die packages too due to the parallel workload. Epyc's latency for going between the dies is fairly atrocious, and AMDs way of addressing that was essentially working around that reality (just like Intel did with the Pentium D). GPUs wouldn't deal with that quite as much. I mean heck, the concept you're describing for Navi is basically VSA-100. but navi i think is planed for 7nm which was dev'd by ibm/samsung/gloflow.
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AMD GPU needs a blank sheet for navi and forget Hawaii ever existed.
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FaustianQ posted:AMD's execution comes down to a sharp disconnect between marketing and engineering departments, lovely marketing, and not enough money for marketing and engineering combined. If Ryzen and Epyc do well you'll first see the changes in marketing, and then maybe in 2019-2021 for products. with stock prices up and ryzen generating enough cash to keep the debters off their back, turn the rest of the cash into much needed company investments.
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priznat posted:I'm curious if the current version of InfinityFabric phy can support PCIe Gen4 speeds (8GHz, 16GT/s), because it would be pretty impressive if they could jump right into the Gen4 ecosystem. There's a few new features they'd have to implement to get to the Gen4 spec of course. It doesn't need to, remember AM4 is suppose to be supported for 5 years.
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Combat Pretzel posted:So uh, if it's super high bandwidth, why does it get hosed over by the memory clock? Sounds like its data transfers are gated by the memory controller? If so, why?! I guess I kind of fail to see why it gets punished so hard versus Intel's ring bus. Because IF is half the speed of ram this is a hard setting in Zen1 so if you increase ram speed you increase IF. Combat Pretzel posted:Oh, I have things to occupy all 16 cores once a while. What I'm more concerned about is when there will be situations when NUMA is going to be a problem, i.e. mismatch between core a thread is running on and where memory allocations are. At a certain point depending on memory pressure, allocations will start to cross NUMA memory regions. If the IF bandwidth between CCX pairs is indeed so much worse as speculated, this is going to be noticeable in some form. Also Zen1 doesn't use Numa for CCX talk it uses a new scheduler that microsoft and AMD came up with to account for the slight higher CCX talk.
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