Sinestro posted:

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                       R7 1700     R7 1700X     R7 1800X  
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Cores/Threads:         8/12        8/12         8/12      

Wistful of Dollars posted:

Are Zen chips soldered?

Risky Bisquick posted:

eames posted:

e: nevermind, I just realised EPYC is the server chip

VostokProgram posted:

Are Jaguar cores based on bulldozer? Everyone thinks that consoles have "8" cores, but if they're actually terrible CMT cores then a quad core ryzen would an upgrade. But I'm sure most people would be confused about why the core count "downgraded"

eames posted:

speaking of real cores, a potential whitehaven benchmark just surfaced

wargames posted:

x300 is the super low end right so maybe for partners only that do enterprise poo poo boxes?

SwissArmyDruid posted:

Anybody watching the AMD thing? Got a dying cellphone battery, can't watch or listen while I'm working on this machine.

Truga posted:

Min FPS is better on ryzen for whatever reason, and min FPS dips are much more noticeable than average fps, so I'd take a 4 core ryzen over a 4 core intel any time of day. The price is just bonus on top of that.

Truga posted:

I thought it was due to architectual differences, as I don't really see how extra cores would magically fix random stutters in main game render thread, but I could be wrong.

Paul MaudDib posted:

Having 16 threads available is already plenty to schedule minor background tasks on.

FaustianQ posted:

Faster RAM does meaningfully impact Ryzen though, on like an order of 10% faster.

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

I'm wondering if the large size of the heatspreader combined with the spread out topography of the chip due to how it's manufactured from smaller sub-dies allows the chip to run at the full 4GHz speed sustained with sufficient cooling, probably something water based.

Measly Twerp posted:

Ryzen Threadripper 1920 oh and also one of the supposed AMD Radeon engineering sample IDs matches the ID of an Intel HD Graphics Gen9 engineering sample?..

Paul MaudDib posted:

But unfortunately quick-disconnects not leaking is a fairly big ask. When I was growing up I remember the quick-disconnect air hoses in our garage leaking constantly, they are just an inferior connection to a proper semi-permanent fitting

Saukkis posted:

LTT Amazon affiliate statistics also showed significant market share increase. So at least currently people are buying much more AMD CPUs than before. But it remains to be seen how big of a portion AMD will manage to carve of CPUs in use.

Beautiful Ninja posted:

My understanding is games are perfectly capable of using a single thread for individual processes, like sound, networking, physics, AI. But each individual process doesn't need the same amount of CPU power, so you end up with certain processes that use way more CPU power than the others and you can only go as fast as the slowest process.

Measly Twerp posted:

The first Threadripper systems for sale.

iBuyPower gives you 3000MHz to 3200MHz memory, and a lot of choices in capacity from 8GB to 64GB, and Alienware only offers 2666MHz memory from 8GB (in a $3k system wtf) to 32GB.

HalloKitty posted:

See, that's what I assumed, so none of this makes sense, unless they're failed dies put in place just to keep the heatspreader level or something weird.

PC World posted:

So did AMD really waste two perfectly good "Zeppelin" dies? Nope.

Those other two "chips" are nothing more than spacers to help maintain the structural integrity of the gigantic heat spreader, PCWorld has learned from a source who declined to be identified.

Sinestro posted:

Nah, it's just changed rules for SIGGRAPH.

SwissArmyDruid posted:

Fine. Is that the bottom end of the stack? Are we only getting three variants of TR?

PerrineClostermann posted:

Isn't 3.0 now known as 3.1 Gen 1?

eames posted:

I suspect Threadripper (B1 "stepping") will suffer from the same problem and Epyc will have the fix (B2 stepping)

Phoronix posted:

So that's where I am at now. Yesterday's testing showed the problem can be reproduced even if SMT is disabled and even if forcing the memory to DDR4-2133. This latest testing shows the problem isn't isolated to GCC that it can also happen with LLVM Clang (in fact, worse) as well as when using the latest GCC 8 development code. Disabling ASLR did not help the situation and running the other stressing concurrent workloads for server/multimedia/scientific didn't yield any segmentation faults in an hour unlike the compilation workloads yielding 50+ per hour. Clearing the BIOS and leaving the defaults also hasn't yielded any change. Some have also said they have been able to reproduce this problem on Epyc CPUs, but unfortunately it doesn't look like we will be receiving any Threadripper / Epyc review samples.