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Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
My Corsair memory has been working fine for me with my i5-7600k. I'd blame the immature Ryzen platform that's known to have memory issues more first.

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Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

PC LOAD LETTER posted:

That was with beta pre launch hardware. All the AM4 stuff out there now is as easy to reset as any other PC.

AM4 versus X299, which one requires gentler motherboard handling? :stonklol:

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Combat Pretzel posted:

At least AM4 doesn't fry your CPU, whenever you intent to use that weird upgrade path Intel thought up.

:thejoke:

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
The problem is what if fixing that requires a chip revision? Buying Ryzen is really iffy if you know you need a feature that doesn't work and may not work on your silicon ever?

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

well why not posted:

It's not a Ryzen, problem it's a Phanteks problem and even more so, a Jay problem for not researching how much airflow the case has.

what jay is perfect in every way shape and form and how dare you imply that the guy who once drilled through a motherboard ever does anything wrong

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Don Lapre posted:

In his defense those holes are supposed to be able to be pushed through. Asrock just did a poo poo job.

That's fair. I like Jay a lot tbh, he's probably my favourite tech youtube guy, but he's often the first to admit he makes some pretty stupid mistakes.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Twerk from Home posted:

It seems to me like a bit more difference between the vPro enabled /non vPro Intel CPUs.

According to this Ars Technica article all of that stuff is in the non Pro Ryzens anyway: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/06/ryzen-pro-amd-takes-on-intel-on-the-corporate-desktop-with-one-key-omission/

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

FaustianQ posted:

The Ryzen naming scheme and recent patents give me the impression there is no marketing department, the engineers just ask the guys who run a d20 modern DOOM campaign in the break room because "they're good with names".

A d20 Modern DOOM campaign is the worst idea. Holy poo poo. Also EPYC is the worst name, especially since it's a server processor not a gaming part.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

FaustianQ posted:

I can't stop laughing at this avatar/post combo, I'm sorry.

If it helps, I got it FROM the 5e thread when they got mad at me for pointing out how terrible that game is in pretty much every conceivable way.

Threadripper is cool. Makes me think of DOOM.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Risky Bisquick posted:

How will you know your computer is on without pulsing light coming from your pc or pc accessories :confused:

Yeah, this but unironically. I kind of like being able to see the glowing lights through the back of my fan exhaust to know it's running. Everything else is solid, though.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Measly Twerp posted:

This is what the scroll lock button on your keyboard is for, testing to see if it's hung.

How does that work?

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

ArgumentatumE.C.T. posted:

if you live in a place where the air is sometimes brown, would this be better or worse for dust levels inside the case?

Depends. Are you using Noctua fans already, or are you interested in an upgrade?

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
That has to be a publicity piece to send to the reviewer. There's no way they're actually going to sell that on shelves.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

eames posted:

AMD on Facebook: "this is our retail box, in stores early August!"

Jesus christ.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
Has it always been platfrom discussion in the title?

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Ihmemies posted:

Gaming RGB motherboards everrrrrywhere: http://event.gigabyte.us/x399promo/

https://www.chiphell.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1757490

No normal/workstation mobos yet again I guess?

I don't think you understand threadripper. it's in the name. Thread-RIPPER.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

eames posted:

Der8auer's delidding videos were taken offline at the request of AMD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbffGyrkjMM

Cause that's not going to blow up in their faces. Seriously they know it's going to get done, why fight it?

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
I guess the yields are really high if they're sending out 250 unusable models with media outlet etchings on them.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

ufarn posted:

It is pretty weird that so few bother to do more extensive testing with different components. Like AMD or not, there are clearly some different results depending on game, graphics card, and even RAM.

If you watch the LTT video, they mention they couldn't do a full set of tests yet. It's a review of the Alienware, not a full teardown of the entire platform.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

What do you even use all those USB ports FOR? You can't connect graphics cards directly to them, can you?

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

you know Lowtax shut down the porn forums years ago

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

PC LOAD LETTER posted:

They'd have to do a new chipset and so far there is no word on that happening anytime soon for either desktop or laptops.

Maybe a new chipset to go with Raven Ridge?

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Measly Twerp posted:

He has this way of making interesting things unlistenable.

No, haircut is right. There's plenty of people in the tech review space with no charisma. Burke just looks slimy, like I can see the no showers in a month and so on.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
That's especially ironic, since ian Cutress himself wrote a very clear, very opinionated guide about what XMP is and why people leave performance on the table by not enabling it.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

redeyes posted:

The pro is much faster if you do enough writes to overrun the SLC buffer.. it is quite possible to notice the difference.

Sure, but a lot of people aren't going to do that and don't need it for a corner case they'll probably never run into.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
Speaking of package size, GamersNexus did an A/B test of coldplate sizes on Threadripper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v5B79vdiXU

Unsurprisingly, full coverage matters a lot.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
I think the only important thing from that GN article is this, and it shows how Intel is still totally ahead in everything and perfect in every way:

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Scarecow posted:

yeah I missed that one

Yeah, Steve spends the first ten minutes of the video going "there's a lot more to this than just straight benchmarks, please pay attention to all the details" and then the last minute going "so don't take the one graph you like and throw it out there without context as if it's the final word" so I was just doing that for shits and giggles. It's a beta, SMT isn't working, Ryzens are good CPUs.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
I bet Microsoft Ignite. The Gartner events are too corporate IT for a consumer-targeted chip launch, and EGX is too small.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
Don't forget they JUST announced some new Radeon 500 thing. We need an :amdrtg:.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

isndl posted:

What did Ryzen come in? I'm not sure 'box' accurately describes it.

A sponge. Threadripper shipped inside a size model of the Guardian of Forever.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Combat Pretzel posted:

I wonder if Intel's going to try to made that Larrabee crap work again.

I doubt it. That found a comfortable spot as Xeon Phi, and Intel doesn't need to replace all GPUs ever everywhere, just have a competitive product. The idea I've seen people suggesting so far is a scaled-up version of Iris Pro graphics for the immediate feature, while Raja and his team work on a new architecture for three or so years from now.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

karoshi posted:

Please abstain from such negative comments, you're ripping the thread apart.

You’re tearing us apart, Lisa Su!

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Paul MaudDib posted:

I see SemiAccurate forums is running a bitcoin miner in your browser now. Charlie's just a real class act.

Seriously? Don’t they charge major subscription fees? What trash.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

K8.0 posted:

Desktop composition is very bad and it almost certainly does affect you.

Please provide a source for desktop compositing in tyool 2018 being "very bad"

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
Yeah, running things in windowed fullscreen is perfectly fine in Windows 10. You’re not going to get enforced vsync or have performance problems with the desktop being up on the other screen. That’s just complete bullshit.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Measly Twerp posted:

Ok, so this is an AdoredTV video and we should all take it with a grain of salt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Cxfl9dkeqU

I'm posting it now because he spends the last few minutes telling AMD fanboys to basically go to hell. It's pretty great (take a drink every time he says "dump"):

Note he's talking about the Australian Steve from Hardware Unboxed, not Steve Burke who is now consigned to darkness for a thousand years.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Dr. Fishopolis posted:

No, it's not. "Consistent" modifies "improving" in that sentence, so it should be an adverb.

Then "with the timeline we shared" doesn't mean anything at all. What it actually needs is a comma to split it into two phrases: [Yields are improving], [consistent with the timeline we shared during our last earnings report].

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Perplx posted:

I guess that means PCIe extenders are dead now.

Linus has just broken out into a cold sweat in Burnaby and he doesn't know why.

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Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

MaxxBot posted:

Yeah I've always wanted a powerful console-like APU but I think that would only happen if GDDR or HBM were built in and that seems unlikely :(.

Isn't that what Intel was doing with those CPU+Vega APUs with HBM on die?

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