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orcane
Jun 13, 2012

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I have a B450 board with a 2700X I want to repurpose for another SFF box, but the only RAM I have left for it is Crucial Ballistix with the "early" E die in 3000CL15 (before they re-released it in black/white/red, RGB lightshow optional) or some Corsair LPX 3200CL16 which probably has some garbage chips underneath. Sucks that Micron ended production of the Ballistix DDR4 line :argh:

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orcane
Jun 13, 2012

Fun Shoe
Paul???

orcane
Jun 13, 2012

Fun Shoe
not sure how those make sense but I'd take a 5700X3D for my B450 system, maybe

orcane
Jun 13, 2012

Fun Shoe
Since Micron/Crucial phased out Ballistix DDR4 memory last year, I'm struggling to decide what memory to get for my old B450/2700X build which I want to upgrade to 32 GB (I use 16 GB of DDR4-3000 CL15 atm). I wonder if Crucial's DDR4 "Pro" sticks can be overclocked to roughly where the Ballistix series was (eg. 3600 CL18 or lower), or maybe I have to get decent timings from dumb heatspreader-and-RGB sticks after all.
:thunk:

orcane
Jun 13, 2012

Fun Shoe
Depends on where they sell them, for how much. The 5600X3D doesn't exist outside of Micro Center and the 5800X3D is still sold for the equivalent of USD 320 here.

If a cut down X3D part keeps most of the gaming performance it can still have a niche for AM4 upgrades - but only if a 5700X3D is actually sold worldwide and for noticeably less than the 5800X3D, obviously.

orcane
Jun 13, 2012

Fun Shoe
Don't worry, that naming scheme needs to be replaced in two years anyway.

orcane
Jun 13, 2012

Fun Shoe
Why not, the other numbers don't mean "is exactly the same".

orcane
Jun 13, 2012

Fun Shoe
Yay European pricing but that cooler is more like $60 here and the first listings for the 5700X3D are in the $290 range while the 5800X3D is up to $350 again :suicide:

orcane
Jun 13, 2012

Fun Shoe
Yeah the 5700X3D is literally days old, if you can wait a week or two the prices should stabilize and some reviewers will be able to quantify where it stands vs. the 5800X3D (and the 5600(X) fwiw).

orcane
Jun 13, 2012

Fun Shoe

Craptacular! posted:

Are the X3Ds really even worth all that money? It's a significant jump. There seems to be a "gaming vs productivity" battle between them, and I do a lot of both since I often run AV1 software encodes. Running an encode and playing a game at the same time is peak heavy load for me.

Truthfully I wouldn't even think of upgrading my 3700X but my FPS in WoW's current expansion city when doing nothing else is so much worse than friends with 5900X, 5600X, Intel etc owing to single thread IPC of Zen1/2. I really don't want to spend $250-300 just to fix that and not also go backwards.
The AM4 "gaming vs. productivity" battle is between the X3Ds (8C/16T config in the 5700X3D/5800X3D, or 6C/12T for the 5600X3D) and the bigger CPUs with more threads to throw at problems, like the 5900X/5950X (12C/24T or 16C/32T). If you compare 8C/16T configs you go with the 3D cache or with what your budget allows, like Klyith said.

orcane
Jun 13, 2012

Fun Shoe
Yeah that makes sense, it existed (for OEMs) since April 2022. Sure it doesn't fit the "profile" of other x700 non-x Ryzens, but for this SKU the cache is the main difference according to the AMD website (same cores, threads, TDP, max. boost clocks).

orcane fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Feb 7, 2024

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orcane
Jun 13, 2012

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Link/list your mainboard. Many B350 and X370 mainboards support Ryzen 5000 CPUs.

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