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It is a move that was needed last year, when people were still excited about external GPU over Thunderbolt. Now, who knows when that will be a standard industry thing.
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Menacer posted:Seamicro's technology, which they branded "Freedom Fabric", has nothing to do with Infinity Fabric. The former was essentially a rack-level interconnect that allowed users to virtualize ethernet and storage at the edge of a torus network of individual systems (see e.g. slide 8 and 14). Was going to argue, but you are in fact correct. Straight from the horse's mouth: quote:UPDATE 5/22/17 11:15 PM CT: AMD has asked us to clarify that Infinity Fabric is actually not related to any of the IP or work that AMD inherited through its ill-fated and SeaMicro acquisition. http://semiaccurate.com/2017/05/17/amds-details-epyc-server-ambitions/ However, I would still stand by the statement that it's HyperTransport 4.0.
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May 25, 2017 02:54
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Samsung to target 4nm in 2020. That's when the WSA ends for good, right? http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1331785 http://wccftech.com/amd-kyzen-aragon-pharos-promethean-coreamp/ Sthap, AMD. Stahp plz. Kyzen Aragon Pharos Promethean Zenso CoreAmp SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 10:24 on May 26, 2017 |
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May 26, 2017 10:22
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Drakhoran posted:In unrelated news. Here is a picture of two Asrock X399 boards. Looks like the official name for the Threadripper socket will be TR4. How long before people start saying poo poo like, "Oh, finally AMD decided to get with the program and use LGA sockets." I've got a tic in my left eye just thinking about it.
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May 30, 2017 11:11
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I'm hoping someone can tell us how many of the pins on those new Threadripper sockets are unused.eames posted:... and terrible performance because of virtualization bugs that AMD won't acknowledge. Won't acknowledge, or haven't had the time to address, with Computex and Threadripper taking a higher priority?
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May 30, 2017 19:15
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eames posted:We'll find out soon enough I guess. I'm not sure how I feel about this... I was hoping they'd be binned Zeppelin dies, since Ryzen 7 yields seem to be topped out. ....unless Zeppelin are actually four Ryzen 7 dies with some extra sauce, then I have no loving idea how to assess parts anymore.
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May 30, 2017 20:14
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Anybody watching the AMD thing? Got a dying cellphone battery, can't watch or listen while I'm working on this machine.
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May 31, 2017 03:23
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Measly Twerp posted:Ryzen Mobile is a CPU and Vega GPU on one die, and it's loving tiny. I was expecting separate dies. 50% better CPU performance, 40% better GPU performance and 50% of the power requirements than their previous APUs. Holy crap, you weren't kidding. 
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May 31, 2017 10:03
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http://techreport.com/news/32010/qnap-ts-x77-nas-units-virtualize-with-ryzen Well, this is interesting. QNAP NASes with Ryzen parts in them. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Can I just say how happy I am that DVI connectors on motherboards seems to finally be dead? The X370 Gaming ITX/ac that ASRock are showing off at Computex, btw.  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pricing out the two small boxes instead of the doubleheaded monster; the old Phenom II that the two munchkins were using croaked somewhat inconveniently the other night, and I figured it's best to just move on wholesale. People who have jumped on already: What's best practice for Ryzen, one stick of X GB RAM, or two sticks of (1/2)X GB? SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 12:03 on Jun 1, 2017 |
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Jun 1, 2017 10:02
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wargames posted:If this is true, zen is even more disruptive then we thought and amd might be profitable one day. Ah, so THAT'S why Raja isn't standing in line for unemployment yet.
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Jun 2, 2017 21:01
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Alright, I parted out a pair of identical machines for the two munchkins. Anyone mind casting an eye over and making sure I've not hosed anything up? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G3bVQV (holy poo poo, I spoil these two way too goddamn much.)
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Jun 2, 2017 22:23
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Thanks, goons, I knew I was freaking forgetting something. I completely forgot to check that memory kit against QVL.
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Jun 3, 2017 01:36
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Linus video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWFzWRoVNnE I hadn't really looked into what's going on in Chipzilland, but that sounds... awful bleak.
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:They came kind of late to the game. There are two segments that AMD *needs* to make inroads in on: Server and mobile. That's where all the money is, and where turnover is most likely to happen. The former, because of all the usual buzzwords of "density" "power-efficiency" and "compute", and the latter, because notebooks are fundamentally obsolete from the moment they hit the market: Performance is strictly downhill from there, barring a miracle with MXM GPUs or adding in extra RAM. Maybe swapping spinning rust for flash, but even that is progressively less likely these days. Everything else can be broadly classified as mindshare, from the crappiest $300 Dell box to the HEDT. Yes, we're excited about Threadripper, because that's _us_ but the real important parts here are EPYC and Ryzen Mobile. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 07:59 on Jun 4, 2017 |
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Jun 4, 2017 07:54
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eames, you spelunk the AMD forums, right? Have they finally acknowledged the problem with nested page tables?
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Jun 5, 2017 09:45
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Well, crap. Let's hope that the only thing keeping them from addressing this particular problem is purely a case of EPYC/Threadripper crunch.
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Jun 5, 2017 10:21
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It *appears* that Samsung, working with GloFo and IBM, may beat Intel to market with EUV. IBM is touting 40% perf increase or 75% reduced power consumption from the new GAAFET transistor design vs commercial 10nm FinFET. https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/6/5/15740500/ibm-5nm-gaafet-transistor-faster-more-efficient https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/06/ibm-5nm-chip/ http://wccftech.com/ibm-gf-5nm/ This is more bad news for Intel, I think. I can't remember if they had arrived at their next step after FinFET yet. Last I heard, they were going to switch to InGaAs at 7nm and ride FinFET all the way down to 5nm, or something like that. edit: Now the question remains: Can AMD GPU-side survive long enough to get whatever comes after Navi onto this new 5nm process? XD SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Jun 6, 2017 |
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Jun 6, 2017 19:54
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...how is that loving _entry level_? Isn't entry level supposed to be some 10-core part with SMT, clocked up to 3.4 with boost to 3.8?
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If there is a criticism that I have continually levelled at AMD, it is that they appear to be hell-bent on leaving as much money on the table as possible. That a 16-core Threadripper part of quite reasonable clock, might retail for _only_ $849? This implies that Threadripper, rather than commanding an HEDT price premium, as Intel has normalized over the past decade, will be a step up from R7 merely in the same way that one steps up from R5 -> R7. And I think that this is undercutting Intel WAY TOO HARD, and that AMD would benefit more in the short-term while not harming their long-term by pricing closer to Intel, but moving down whenever Intel moves. Either that, or AMD is burning cash to achieve lock-in on people who are increasingly turning against X299/Kaby Lake-X. Third Rule of Acquisition: Never spend more for an acquisition than you have to. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 10:00 on Jun 7, 2017 |
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Jun 6, 2017 23:16
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Kazinsal posted:This is entirely a wild-rear end guess based solely on my observations in both the CPU threads on SA, some threads on a few other boards, and conversations I've had about the CPU R&D process with some other folks in the industry, but I suspect the following will happen: Maybe AMD won't be cutting ties just yet. But at least it may be because GloFo has a product worth offering, rather than being a goddamn albatross: SwissArmyDruid posted:It *appears* that Samsung, working with GloFo and IBM, may beat Intel to market with EUV.
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Jun 9, 2017 09:15
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Intel said nothing, and Lisa Su said that they were not in the business of "enabling a competitor to compete with our products". But Apple being its own, internal, walled-off garden in almost all ways that it is... I can see why an exception might be made there. It would be a product that would be sold nowhere else. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Jun 9, 2017 |
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Jun 9, 2017 18:52
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One word: Apple.
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Comatoast posted:What in the world? It's like a 23 minute long MacRumors video. Oh, trust me, he's actually pretty good at what he does. If you want full-on bed-making GBS threads fanboyism videos, that's what RedGamingTech is for.
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Jun 10, 2017 10:54
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dont be mean to me posted:When was the last time browsing the Web was light duty? Before browsers started to use GPU acceleration,.
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Jun 11, 2017 07:01
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This, I assume, is a great boon to the OpenBIOS/Libreboot people.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:00
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...silicon, eames. Silicone Valley is in SoCal.
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Paul MaudDib posted:Oh yeah, on this note, the DOE just awarded a $258 million contract to AMD, Cray, HPE, IBM, Intel and Nvidia to build the first exascale computer with a target date of 2021 and a second computer online in 2023. Dunno if they're going with AMD's design or not, that's quite a mix of companies. Trump won't pay them for their work, and AMD will be dead for reals.
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Jun 15, 2017 21:53
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ASRock signal has been burning for months now, I want that drat MXM motherboard.
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Jun 17, 2017 04:21
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shrike82 posted:I might have missed the conversation but what the hell is that I think Klyith is snarking about how Microsoft's Project Scorpio is now named the X Box One X. Which initializes down to, because things weren't confusing enough, "XBOX". Either that, or autocorrect, because my phone just tried to do the same thing when I typed "X Box One X" just now.
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The dies going into Threadripper *now* probably were made back in April/May. If B2 stepping of Zen is happening sometime soon, we probably won't be seeing it until the end of the year _at the earliest_.
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Jun 18, 2017 20:09
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Back-to-school at the earliest, more likely Christmas.
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July if packed inside an Alienware, no date for retail, aside from a Kitguru rumour: https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/matthew-wilson/source-amd-to-launch-threadripper-in-august/ edit: HardwareCanucks has swapped over to Ryzen 1700X for Dmitri's video editing rig, so... I guess that's *one* PR win for AMD? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjzzdkUvKhk SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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repiv posted:EK uses medical-grade quick-disconnects for those kits, so you'd hope they're pretty drat reliable The EK Predator is discontinued. They are now selling "complete watercooling kits in a box" now with proper fittings and soft tubing runs you cut yourself. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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Yeah, those are the things I am talking about. I saw them when I went to go see if they had updated brackets and poo poo for AM4. As part of their featureset, they come with all-aluiminum radiators and waterblocks to zero the possibility of electrolytic corrosion as well. I haven't seen any videos on it yet, but I figure if anyone would have done a video on it by now, it'd be Jayz.
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WAR DOGS OF SOCHI posted:that's it? lol Top-binned silicon as well.
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Paul MaudDib posted:I thought the official line was "Ryzen officially supports it but it's up to the motherboard manufacturers to support it themselves and complete the chain"? That's what I've been told by AMD fanboys, would be unsurprised to learn that's bullshit. No, it's AMD who said it.  https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5x4hxu/we_are_amd_creators_of_athlon_radeon_and_other/def5ayl/ http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/75030-ecc-memory-amds-ryzen-deep-dive.html SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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They kept on flogging that Zen was supposed to be a "new horizon" for AMD So, somewhere between the two, I guess.
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So THAT's the guy who did the wrong measurements on the inside depth of the heatspreader and didn't account for the adhesive's thickness, then?
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FaustianQ posted:Better yet Oh man, ASRock and their goofy AF socket 939 upgrade daughterboards. Seriously, if there is anyone that you can expect to make Threadripper ITX work, it's ASRock. When they do, just.... don't stare at the circuitboard traces. And if they start to swim a bit out the corner of your eye, uh, maybe call a priest and pour yourself a nice, stiff drink? It's absolutely not the eldritch powers used to stitch together socket TR4 and an ITX board causing you to lose SAN. Definitely not any twisted perversions of space-time and 4D space, no.
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RGB is cancer, that just goes without saying. I will allow for a low-intensity single color of backlight on such things like keyboards to allow for things like night typing, but it must come in a color that minimizes blue light. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 09:00 on Jul 4, 2017 |
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