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I'd say the thunderbolt thing is only a requirement for those salivating over an eGPU. It also seems pretty "easy" for apple to implement TB on chipset. Isn't AMD's APU design really going to be the key thing, at least for laptops?
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Has there been any actual benchmarks or at least informed discussion on the relative performance between the Intel w/Radeon and HBM2 and EMIB vs the AMD 2400G w/ Vega? The Intel thing seems like it's going to be way quicker with the HBM2 in there giving it mad bandwidth. Maybe we won't know until the Intel poo poo launches? https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/ryzen_5/2400g https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/core_i7/i7-8809g
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Sure there's a point. We can compare the interconnect technology, bandwidth v cu's v frequency and cost is an interesting metric as well. There is crossover too... Do you buy a nuc, or build a probably cheaper alternative from an AMD apu?
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I just use my brush attachment on the vacuum cleaner to clean off my front case filter. I suppose it's possible I could damage the fan behind it, but so far so good.
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Feb 25, 2018 19:29
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I think it's old news that AMD is seriously binning the 8C/16T stuff... still weird to me that the 8/16 is at a higher clock than the 6/12. I guess Intel is doing the same thing right now. I feel like historically there would be a lower core count, higher clock-speed sort of trade-off. Maybe I'm imagining it.
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Mar 6, 2018 08:47
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So, maybe HPET is forced on in my system from MSI afterburner and it is affecting my CPU performance? I'll have to look it up and check. If it is forced on, what deleterious effects could it have on my system if I restore the default setting? Phone posting, I'll have to investigate later.
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Apr 25, 2018 19:09
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Has anyone played with very high speed memory in their Ryzens? 3800 or faster mahz? Stuff like this? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...ICE&PageSize=36 Haven't had much luck finding any performance comparisons or how often these speeds are achievable.
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May 20, 2018 00:55
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:NUMA awareness has been a thing for a long time and if the specific program does have problems due to memory latency from the architecture it will be completely within the developers ability to optimize around, as the layout will be exposed to the application. How does this type of thing work? Is information about the architecture exposed to applications which can request low latency cores? Is the information only exposed to the OS which doles out cores per application?
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I'm thinking of getting a cheaper Ryzen sooner and upgrading to Ryzen 2 next year selling the old one, but I think again and there's still no reason to not just get a more expensive version and sell that. Weird.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/f7GxFT/asrock-fatal1ty-x470-gaming-itxac-mini-itx-am4-motherboard-x470-gaming-itxac Is this one bad?
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Jun 19, 2018 11:39
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More channels is more difficult to lay out on the motherboard, and by nature requires more modules, so there will certainly be a premium going forward.
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Jun 29, 2018 19:30
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Should I install AMD chipset drivers?
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My board supports 3466 and my 3600 memory runs at 3466 and no higher despite throwing power at it. I can tighten up most of my primary timings, but the system refuses to even try running the TC faster than xmp. Kind of odd. My 2600x will boost to 4.25 GHz but will instantly freeze at the suggestion that it clock any higher at all manually. I haven't tried very hard yet, but I guess I should be happy that everything just works beyond expectations out of the box.
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Jul 13, 2018 18:35
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It's great! An enthusiast can literally use the lowest end Ryzen for just about anything. If one wants to spend more, there are options!
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Color me extremely skeptical. My anecdote is my 2600x on a giant air cooler immediately saw, and continues to see 4250 MHz in single and double core activity. Sits around 4000mhz well running all out, dropping roughly linearly as temperatures increase.
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Aug 7, 2018 10:22
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Join the threads up. Fanboy babies already "ruin" both threads individually.
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B-Mac posted:The b450 MSI tomahawk seems to be the best vrm out of the b450 boards. Seems to me that looking at a Ryzen 2, that a x470 board is going to be the wiser choice
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are you not running your memory in xmp mode? fake edit: noob real edit: (reg dates) LRADIKAL fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Aug 11, 2018 |
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Paul MaudDib posted:Literally no one has spent more than 20m of their life on one of my posts, not even an effortpost, and I'm glad about that. I've come close, but yeah, it's a drat good thing. 
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apropos man posted:One could be programmed to act as a wireless adaptor, another for a USB chipset, another for a RAID controller, etc etc. These things currently, are the opposite of a general purpose processor. These are examples of dedicated hardware which is built for a relatively simple task and allows it to be small and fast and efficient. They are also very cheap to produce. FPGA's are expensive like a CPU, but can be programmed repeatedly to optimize certain instructions. edit: perhaps the next step is faster communication between an APU and separate graphics hardware. I think this is possibly with AMD stuff, but not very practical. LRADIKAL fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Sep 20, 2018 |
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I have been meaning to do an effortpost, but you would have a decent use case for StoreMI which you can get for free. It'll put the drives together and as it's a tiered storage solution, it'll put your more commonly used junk onto the faster device. The above is an NVME drive as indicated by it using PCI express lanes. Also 256? At least put 500 on the SATA device. LRADIKAL fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Sep 22, 2018 |
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I would certainly spend the extra 10 bucks to go to zen+. You get a more reliable memory controller and a few hundred more megahertz without manual overclocking. Unless you really need the core count for a specific application. 2600X will be better for games and any sub 8 core optimized applications.
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Why will implementing pcie 4 speed up IF?
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Oct 21, 2018 18:51
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Didn't we figure out that DDR4 has as much bandwidth as the old edram has? Is it latency that's the issue?
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Ya, we have a source on chiplet having the IO? Single CCX for 8/16 in consumer stuff is a pretty big deal. Makes anything less probably very cheap to produce. Heat to surface area is going to be pretty high on those. Wonder if the chips have higher temperature tolerance.
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Didn't those ultra high frame rates have more to do with the games physics than speed?
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Also Quake stuff.
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Krailor posted:They won't need a new socket/pinout for PCIe 4 (or 5); the layout is exactly the same as 3 (and 2 and 1). They just keep increasing the bandwidth each gen while keeping everything else the same. This way they can keep all the hardware backwards/forwards compatible. All this to say it's theoretically possible? It ain't happening.
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Perhaps more budget oriented boards deliver 8x pci 4 lanes to graphics cards and 2x to NVME. This decreases pin counts from the CPU, and allows for more storage lanes. There's a million configurations one could imagine. I suspect aside from multi card compute, you won't need more than the bandwidth of 8x pcie4 or 16x pcie3 for years.
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If you are going to consider three, just put four in.
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At that price, or even $150 it seems like a real good mid range reccomendation for people. Having the Ryzen 2 option coming up is great.
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That is not normal behavior, however it is not particularly harmful. Could be a uefi setting.
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My ASRock fat1lity is fine... 2600x and 3466 MHz memory.
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Betting on Ryzen three is a bit too speculative, imo. I think when people get a cheaper Ryzen CPU, they are indicating they don't feel the need for the single core performance, or can't afford it now. It's also easier to cool, since it uses less wattage than a high end Intel and comes with a fan. It also may be the case that one doesn't actually need to upgrade for a few more years. LRADIKAL fucked around with this message at 09:05 on Nov 22, 2018 |
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For Maya, you probably do want the extra cores, otherwise I'd say to go with a 2600X and upgrade next year. For games and streaming a 2600X is sufficient.
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Crotch Fruit posted:As a kid haver devoting all my spending to their toys, I consider myself in the "I'm dirt poor" segment Were you being sarcastic? https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Phenom-II-X4-840-vs-AMD-Athlon-200GE/m3302vsm592714
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Crotch Fruit posted:I had no idea my CPU was that new, but I am genuinely surprised a dual core 3.2GHz could perform as fast or faster than my 3.2GHz quad core. Is the dual core faster at core intensive take like The page says </=2014, so I think they don't do any dates before that.
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Do you get a measurable improvement in performance compared to just letting the CPU do it's own thing? I wasn't able to.
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I mean as far as benchmarking performance, I was able to squeeze out slightly higher frequencies, but letting it do it's own thing was just as performant, but more cool and stable.
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