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New Zealand can eat me posted:Next time I will be sure to re-type the entire procedure verbatim so you know I tried it A simple yes would have worked instead of sounding like an rear end in a top hat.
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Wistful of Dollars posted:Is AMD managing to go from CPU = BAD and GPU = GOOD to vice versa in one generation? I was just thinking that myself.
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redeyes posted:Word around the campfire is Ryzen is still unstable.. even after the latest round of BIOS and memory updates. Not good. Care to expand on this?
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Yea I don't really see a place for the i3 anymore now that pentiums have HT and Ryzen 1400/1500 exist for sub $200 with the 1600 costing not much more after that.
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FaustianQ posted:On AMD's own facebook page Amazing.
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Ihmemies posted:The two modes with TR seem to be a pain in the rear end. For me it feels too much unnecessary thinking and tweaking. I'll look at the new intel 6 core models, and if they really can go ~5GHz+ on all cores with decent temps it is the way to go. Amd just won't catch intel in single threaded performance this year. lol what? Were you really looking to compare a 6 core chip to a 16 in completely different price and use brackets?
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Ihmemies posted:Yes. That's what many people do though. Buy $1000 gaming cpu when a $300-400 cpu would be good enough, or even better. I guess I don't see it that often so it seems really silly to me.
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NewFatMike posted:I'm on the bus so I can't check out the video in the article, but: Haha no way that can be true, especially those clocks.
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Risky Bisquick posted:Hey Paul what’s worse, segfaulting chips or leaking data through JavaScript and web browsers Obviously hard locking due to segfaults, duh.
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Paul MaudDib posted:That's not what the paper stated. Maybe you should read it? Or excerpt I previously linked for you? Does the language difference make any difference in the first image? They state they have empirically tested intel, but AMD has been verified to have attack applicability. Not sure why they would use different language there.
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Any reviews showing how fps improves by dropping settings to low/medium/high? Haven’t been able to find anything.
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redeyes posted:Im sure no one cares at this point but i got the opportunity to test a RX580 vs a GTX 1070 founders edition. The 1070 is so much faster its insane, not to mention quieter, cooler running, AND a lot less buggy. All hail our nvidia overlord.
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lol nice “office” CTSlabs. https://m.imgur.com/OkWlIxA They are all shutterstock images.
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Just finished titan fall 2 campaign, it was short but pretty drat dope.
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eames posted:anandtech still has excellent CPU reviews, they're just hidden on page 72 in one of their forum threads That user review seems better than most of the site reviews.
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Truga posted:The most hilarious thing about bulldozer is that apparently it aged better than sandy bridge? Weren't there benchmarks recently showing that in brand new games, i7-2600k is just slightly ahead of bulldozers? I might be misremembering. I remember what you’re talking about but I thought it was vs the 2500k.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Jesus, that polar bear looks so goddamn skinny, it makes me sad. =( Don’t worry, that bear is just a crisis actor.
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:I just bought a Fury X to gently caress about with because it looks pimp, and I need a small card with Freesync for an ITX case. Here’s a reddit post I made with my nitro fury undervolting and underclocking it. Measured wattage at Wall with kill a watt. https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/56ncbi/sapphire_fury_nitro_undervolting_and_underclocking/
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Since b450 was officially released today we should start seeing some 2300x and 2500x reviews popping up.
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I wonder how the 2200g will stack up against the 2300X since they are both 4 core 4 threads but the 2200g is normally $99. I guess maybe the 2300X could sit below that MSRP of $125 and maybe the slightly higher clocks will be worth it. 2300X - $110 2500X - $135 2600 - $160 That pricing makes a bit more sense to me, like others said with the 2600 at $160 a $150 2500X doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Craptacular! posted:Thinking I should sell my 3770K, Z77 board, and 16GB DDR3 because the 120mm AIO is beginning to be Still Working But Too Old, and I don’t want to invest in new cooling for it. And as was mentioned in the other thread, people still pay good money for top-of-class components for a generation. The b450 MSI tomahawk seems to be the best vrm out of the b450 boards.
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LRADIKAL posted:Seems to me that looking at a Ryzen 2, that a x470 board is going to be the wiser choice From what I’ve seen the majority of x470 boards have similar vrm setups as some of the b450s until you get into the $200 range. I don’t see much of a point in getting x470 unless you need SLI or a specific board feature. You still get the big new features like XFR2, PBO and StoreMI. I’d be happy to look at info that says otherwise as there isn’t a ton out there. B-Mac fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Aug 11, 2018 |
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:None of the VRM's on even the "good" B450 mobo's will do a decent job of supporting a overclocked(which is what I'm assuming you'll be doing with a big rear end cooler like that, either manually or by allowing the system to OC itself through XFR) 8C/16T Zen2. Calling them garbage is being hyperbolic and that true 6 phase isn't going to get you much over the 4 phase on the tomahawk. I could see the case for getting the much better VRMs if you think the next ryzen gens are going to come with greater than 8 cores and you are planning for that but for 8 cores they are fine, even for overclocking. They do require a bit of airflow but then again so does the board you linked as well. I based this off level1techcs video and hardware unboxed. I appreciate the thoroughness that buildzoid has for these mobo and gpu reviews but not everyone is putting these chips under LN2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osvm26W4e3M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWGzmbbimPw Heres a nice list of VRMs for most of the boards. https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f12/pga-am4-mainboard-vrm-liste-1155146.html B-Mac fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Aug 11, 2018 |
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:For 8C/16T OC'ing they're absolutely garbage, the VRM will usually start to real hot and you can run into thermal shut down protection for a reason on some of them. I appreciate you ignoring most of what I said there and selecting only what you wanted. I agreed with you saying that 6 true phases is better than a 4 phase, not that vrms don’t matter at all. Wendell said in his video the vrms were sitting in the 70s and 80s C on the tomahawk and handled the overclocked 2700X just fine. I didn’t say to get any B450 and overclock the hell out of the 2700x, I only talked about one specific B450 board. Watch the video if you haven’t already. I guess these hardware threads aren’t much fun if we can’t call stuff garbage or poo poo and max that hyperbole meter out. B-Mac fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Aug 11, 2018 |
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:edit: \/\/\/\/\/\/ I didn't ignore most, or any, of what you said at all there dude. I selectively quoted to keep the post length down since doing total quote posts of long length gets annoying after a while. And yeah I watched the video and the guy was basically fine with the VRM temps after making sure it had a 120mm fan blowing air around it in a case. 85C+ temps is pretty dang toasty at stock clocks for a CPU VRM in a open air bench. \/\/\/\/\/\/ That was overclocked running for 16 hours with the plexiglass cover on the test bench so it wasn’t open air at that point. B-Mac fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Aug 11, 2018 |
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:At 9:55 in he gives the stock clock VRM temps on the open air test bench as a baseline and says its doing 88C under load for that mobo. Ah I thought you talking about the level1tech video, not hardware unboxed. I just finished the Buildzoid video you linked and found it funny that the Asus pro heat sinks make the vrms hotter than some of these B450 boards, with the vrm clocking in at 92C or higher. It would be nice if these boards came with functional heat sinks and I/O covers that didn’t restrict airflow. B-Mac fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Aug 11, 2018 |
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TheFluff posted:For most intents and purposes, a doubled 4-phase is pretty much as good as an actual 8-phase. The point of having a multi-phase VRM is to let many different components share the current load - in an 8-phase VRM, each phase (essentially consisting of a pair of MOSFETs, an inductor and one or more capacitors) is only turned on 1/8th of the time. These things turn on and off very fast - 300 kHz switching frequency is pretty typical, while higher end VRM's can be optimized for 500 kHz. You want a higher switching frequency and more "real" phases to smooth out voltage ripples and reduce transient voltage spikes since that helps keeping the CPU stable when overclocking. This post was really informative, thanks. When you say doubled are you talking about have two high side and two low side mosfets per phase, or is there more to it?
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TheFluff posted:Sorry, I got a bit unclear with the terminology. When I said "doubled 4-phase" in the post above I meant "an 8-phase that uses a 4-phase controller plus doubler chips". That is, the controller outputs 4 on/off signals (PWM signals), but instead of going directly into a MOSFET/inductor (a "phase"), the signal first goes into a doubling chip that turns it into two interleaved (alternating) signals. Hence, you get 8 distinct on/off signals and each MOSFET is turned on 1/8th of the time. You have 8 actual phases in every sense of the word, it's just that the controller chip only sees 4 phases and can only do current balancing on pairs of phases. It would perhaps be more accurate to call it a "8-phase with doublers"...? No that’s great, thanks a lot for responding. Is there an easy way for a person to look at a motherboard and tell whether something is for example a true 8 phase or in actuality a doubled 4 phase. I’ve noticed a lot of manufacturer marketing BS seeping in AMD calling things something when it’s actually not. That wikichip link was very informative, especially to someone who admittedly has little knowledge in the subject and is trying learn. B-Mac fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Aug 12, 2018 |
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TR2 reviews are starting to trickle out at the usual places.
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Paul MaudDib posted:Any real difference between 1950X and 2950X performance? Is it the same difference as Ryzen, where you'd need to tune the 1950X manually and the 2950X can just enable XFR2 and be done? From what I could find the 2950x can clock about 200mhz higher at most or so than the 1950x, usually just a 100 MHz higher. Best case I saw was about 10% faster, usually in the 5% range. Seems xfr2 and PBO is what gets it to peak higher but voltage nears 1.45V. Basically yea what you said, just turn on xfr2 and PBO. The $600 1950X is a drat steal if it suits your needs. B-Mac fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Aug 15, 2018 |
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EmpyreanFlux posted:https://twitter.com/Ashraf__Eassa/status/1035511047514468352?s=20 16c/32t 6 ghz 3700x on air confirmed.
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exquisite tea posted:It's incredibly subtle going from Ultra to Very High, and even further down to High unless you spend all your time looking at the skybox. The only reason to set Volumetric Clouds to Ultra in AC Odyssey is if you want 20% less FPS for the privilege of saying you can do it with your big dick rig. I mean ain’t that the only reason we build these machines, so we can repeatedly say big dick rig.
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Inept posted:RX595 Right outta the intel playbook. Polaris++++++
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Not gonna lie I’m am more hyped to see what the ps5 specs will look like with new AMD GPU and CPUs.
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Happy_Misanthrope posted:Yeah if anyone is expecting the PS5 before late 2020 you're clueless No one said anything about it launching in 2019. It will interesting to see performance once they get off jaguar cores and get Ryzen in there. Plus whatever new GPU tech that isn’t based on Polaris.
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Dadbod Apocalypse posted:This seems weird to me. I haven't owned a console since the Super Nintendo, so excuse what may be a dumb question, but...doesn't this mean that the two base systems will be fairly similar to one another? If so, the only substantive differentiations will the online ecosystems and any locked-up exclusives? The PS4 pro and Xbox one x have almost identical hardware, the GPU in the Xbox is slightly faster than the PS4 pro. Sony has been killing it with exclusives this generation though so folks might be more inclined to pick up a PS4 over Xbox despite being slightly slower. Excited to see what performance gains are can be had with the new consoles by getting their slow jaguar CPUs, hoping for 60 FPS min for most games. The pro was my first console since the ps2.
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Space Racist posted:I'm honestly curious how many CPU upgrades AssCreed Odyssey has spurred. I know it pushed me over the edge when it was 100%ing my old 6700K. Is odyssey more cpu hungry than origins? Origins DLC would push my stock 9900k to 70-80% at times with a single core in the 90s. I’d see a power draw of a 120W on the cpu alone, it was nuts.
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