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incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Rastor posted:

Even if Ryzen becomes a huge success it will take time to build up momentum. Some of the pieces still aren't even released. Just look at the posters in this thread who won't even consider it until it's available in ITX form factor.

Ryzen needs serious design wins. It's feel-good press material to talk about the "enthusiasts" and "end users" but the real money is when companies buy thousands of them.

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incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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SwissArmyDruid posted:

I felt a single, sharp pain in my groin when I saw the $4938 MSRP on that Xeon.

I have no intention of ever buying one of those, and I think Intel *still* just exacted the price of my hypothetical future firstborn from me just to look at the spec sheet.

Bezos will get them for cheap, those aren't for "us".

Alternatively, Strictly for my elastics.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Could they throw out a last min 18 core threadripper or has that left the station for this cycle?

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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wargames posted:

with stock prices up and ryzen generating enough cash to keep the debters off their back, turn the rest of the cash into much needed company investments.

Or, ya know, pay a dividend. ever.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Processor - 299 on amazon prime day. It looks to be the lowest ever.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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PerrineClostermann posted:

Gotta make back all that wasted *every attempt at diversifying the company that isn't storage* money

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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eames posted:

It's a shame games don't scale well with threads (yet) or that'd be my go-to platform.

What the hell are game developers doing if their go-to platform are consoles with 8 core??????

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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eames posted:

I think Amdahl's Law describes this problem:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl%27s_law

and a quick look at steam's hardware survey shows dual/quadcore processors at 94%, granted that includes a lot of laptops but still.
I think ideally you'd want a game engine that's well threaded to begin with and then uses extra cores to scale up/down features that can be parallelised depending on the available core count.

Neat, I just read a blog post about that Law where a user's mouse stopped working with 24 core system.

https://randomascii.wordpress.com/2017/07/09/24-core-cpu-and-i-cant-move-my-mouse/

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Yo what mobos are confirmed for threadripper so far? I feel we knew about launch boards before CPUs.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1j3S6MKB_E&t=104s

That almost seems like a reasonable amount!

who's going to even have torx screwdrivers handy for this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSCVahyh3Dk

bring back the awful installer dude.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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The man who pushed the bulldozer architecture.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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I think the VP of Radeon technology group is there as a punishment.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Surfacebook 2 when???

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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If this pans out there wouldn't need for garbage tier discrete gpu that just never gets used with 2n1s. It's nice to have but windows rarely uses them intelligently.

And RR looks like the perfect use case.

incoherent fucked around with this message at 10:42 on Sep 26, 2017

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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BangersInMyKnickers posted:

All the big vendors have been moving to per-core licensing models around the time Intel started hitting 12/16c per socket. Expect more of that.

bring back CMT (for muh licenses).

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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It's really telling that they gave them ONLY 24 hours before public disclosure.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Methylethylaldehyde posted:

I read the thing looking for any actual CVEs and the entire thing looks like a hatchet job designed to scare institutional investors away from AMD. Lots of bright, pretty graphics and scary sounding phrases, but no proof of concepts, actual expoits, or anything more than 'if yuo load code in the ring 0 management engine, bad things could happen!!!11!'. Which, to be fair, is true, but also completely retarded to list as an exploit/risk.

Guys my new 0 day just requires physical access to the machine and bios rw. Make the check out to cash plz.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Secure enclave, which is a security protocol on apple hardware or Trustzone the ARM implementation of the same ideal.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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MagusDraco posted:

It ended up not being Denuvo but just poo poo programming in general / Arkahm Knight's revenge in which it loads stuff in and out real aggressively and will do that at the speed of your hard disk so if you're on a ssd (or god forbid something stupid like raid 0 nvme ssds) it will create massive driver overhead crushing the cpu.

edit: it doesn't want to leave textures loaded into vram because it's afraid you'll run out of vram so instead it just loads the sames textures into and out of vram thousands of times over the course of an hour.


https://github.com/Kaldaien/SpecialK/releases/tag/sk_odyssey

How the gently caress did it get so bad from origins? literally the same game 1 year apart, CYOA voices, and boat tech.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Also apple for their iPad cpus.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Amazon is having a hell of a deal on the 2700x rn. When does the 3000 series compatible boards drop again?

incoherent fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Mar 22, 2019

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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ItBreathes posted:

All existing boards should be drop in compatible with a bios update.

I get that, i'd rather have a forward thinking board (pcie 4.0) and have the option to move up. Along with an entirely in house chipset for once.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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The objective is to make intel marketing dept sweat, not the motherboards.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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fishmech posted:

What, no, not in the least. It was quite far behind them all over.

Yeah let's be real here PS4\xbox were full on recession grade consoles and their respective party tricks (ES ram, GDDR) were implemented to mitigate it.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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MaxxBot posted:

Here have a double dose of bad news. Although if there are 16 core Ryzen 3000 SKUs the need for TR is less urgent.

It would be a smart play to have TR refreshers in between major core revisions. TR was a very "skunkworked the hell out of it to get it out the door" product that acted as a halo (AMD got a full stack in one quarter) rather than bookable design wins. Them going back to differentiate it more would be the better way to do the HEDT.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Cygni posted:

Those tiny fans were so awful on a bunch of the boards I had. If they don’t bother you, cool have fun. But I really don’t want them.

I hope someone does a board temp comparison with a 2700x and comparable core Zen 2 cpu on a x570 motherboard.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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The only logical upgrade for a 2500k is the 2600k.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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MagusDraco posted:

3950X is $750

Ouch

That sounds like value to me tbh.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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SwissArmyDruid posted:

apropos of nothing: drat, that's a loving rock.



Hell yeah, this is now a Lisas finger rock discussion thread.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Sub Rosa posted:

I learned I don't need to spend $500 for a CPU that will last 8 years

Pro move is buying the 3950X and immediately shut off half the cores. Then, every year you enable two of them at a time. :smug: Thank me later.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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ratbert90 posted:

Not on my machine! I routinely hit all 48 threads!

I've got a use case with some people demanding all our SQL data in an excel spreadsheet. So yeah, gimme cores.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Klyith posted:

And that's not all! It also offers to sell you Overclocking Insurance! After all, overclocking isn't covered under warranty and could damage your chip if you push it too hard. (Only $19.99 what a deal!)


Gosh, how nice of them.

intel has offered this since the 2600k. gently caress yes i'll take some insurance for the cost that most people would blow on train sim DLC.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Got a lil surface go to complement my surfacebook 2 (when I need the whole laptop and need to notetake still) and a little extra oomph would be a nice add to the QOL of the device (and, ya know stop loving selling a eMMC storage tier).

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Arzachel posted:

Yep, 3950x releases some time September.

The edging of AMD fans continues

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Quaint Quail Quilt posted:

I'm now realizing I don't need ECC ram which that board supports, it's predecessors were very power efficient and had all the features you need with no gamer bullshit.

i'd rather have a 2.5gb port than a OOB one, even if it is geared towards biz. Looks like i'll have to do the gamer bullshit to get em.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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SwissArmyDruid posted:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Surface-Laptop-3-Pricing-configuration-details-for-the-15-inch-model-leak.435212.0.html

Microsoft Surface Laptop 3 SKUs leak:

Processor RAM SSD Price
AMD Ryzen 5 3550U 8 GB ? US$999
AMD Ryzen 7 3750U 8 GB ? US$1,099
AMD Ryzen hexacore 12 GB ? US$1,399
AMD Ryzen hexacore 12 GB ? US$1,599
AMD Ryzen octacore 16 GB ? US$1,999
AMD Ryzen octacore 16 GB ? US$2,399

I wonder if a chiplet in the surfacebook base and one in the tablet\screen is feasible.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Plus they have a long standing fab agreement with the xbox hardware. It's not rocket dentistry if they can pull off a 10hr, 8c laptop for microsoft and get a sweet deal out of it.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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is all ZEN done with TSMC or GlobalFoundries?

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incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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I dono guys zen 3 on these 400 series sounds like the devils bargain. Blowing out old cpu support, thus limiting its usefulness as hand-me-downs and no bios walkback, sounds worrisome. Now that cpu lives with that motherboard.

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