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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


I just want to congratulate the op for spelling platfrom correctly :v:

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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


What speed memory? That's great temps.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Might get better with some BIOS updates on the way.
I'm going to get a 1700 when Asus get their head out of their rear end and make an itx board.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


orcane posted:

I remember having great fun with awful VIA chipsets because those were the only chipsets I could get for some early AthlonXP builds :suicide:

:gibs: horrible.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Alpha pal was the bomb. It was the reverse of bling in a very blingy time, which was another plus.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


I wonder what happened to Papst, they were great quiet fans at one point. I remember seeing the fan blades with tiny weights on, to balance them.

Looks like they only still do industrial and 120mm fans now?

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Old housemate of mine used to complain the neighbours hoovered at night.
It was my Delta fan at >2000RPM. I just got a massive pang of nostalgia for that XP-M.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


sauer kraut posted:

They still make a lot of stuff, but from what I read their 'silent' sleeve-bearing stuff was matched/eclipsed years ago by the likes of Noctua or Scythes for half the price.
Still make killer ball bearing stuff that will run not-so-silent 24/7 until forever, if you don't mind 40$ for a 120mm casefan that comes with 4" of cable in a shabby brown box.
It's for German super grognards only now :)

I remember having all Papst fans, and still hearing bearing "tick"

And buying a cheap Orange Zalman fan and being absolutely "WTF" as it was quieter. They are / were killer well built though (Papst).

I think the horror of running Delta fans made me go in the opposite way totally and wanting silence. But I weirdly miss that noisy XP-M with a Delta on it.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Hurry up Asus / Asrock. Can't say I want to consider Biostar :can:

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Lungboy posted:

Are Biostar no good then? I'd never heard of them until Ryzen.

I looked around for motherboard failure rates, but couldn't find anything for them.
I know they were regarded pretty badly at one point. Maybe that's changed? I don't know.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


gwrtheyrn posted:

I have pump 240 CPU 140 GPU res. The temps are basically the same as what I was getting with the nh-u12s so it's probably just a lovely chip. The GPU runs super cool so at least that is working

Also that was prime95 with avx on small FFTs or something

If you remove the block, how's the thermal paste being distributed around on the top of the CPU? Is the base of the CPU block good and flat?

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


VealCutlet posted:

If he's got custom WC loops I assume he knows how to put thermal paste on. Better to be safe I suppose.

It's just to find if the paste is squished evenly, showing the contacts good, or not.

E - it was hot with the Noctua too wasn't it.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Apr 21, 2017

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Hope reseating the block helps. Or even contacting EK, I think the supports pretty good with them.

E- anyone else with same board having heat issues?

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


SwissArmyDruid posted:

Perf stepping for Ryzen when, AMD?

If I order a 1700, I'll be sure to let the thread know, because the performance stepping will probably arrive the week after.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Best chemical I found was Akasa Tim clean. It just wipes the paste right off.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


To be fair, it's good advice for anyone else with that board and this problem.

quote:

Nah, all you need is 99% isopropyl, or whatever is the highest-test stuff you can get.

I don't remember what paste I was using, but iso wouldn't easily shift it. The Akasa stuff was effective.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 16:54 on May 2, 2017

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


I hope the poster that offered you help isn't put off doing the same again in future. I totally don't get at all why you didn't just say thanks. But w/e.

I'm glad your new system works.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 03:40 on May 4, 2017

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Hah no! It was EdEddnEddy being snarked at for mentioning a potential fix to that guys problem.

I like AMD too but haven't used them for a long time. But the 1700 is interesting me. 

But I'll wait for a respin and Asus ITX.

E- I'm wondering now if the respin isn't going to happen until Ryzen+.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 04:07 on May 4, 2017

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


What I'd really like is to get the ultimate 6c+ chip for consistent frametime. I wonder if the 6c skylake chips will change things there.

(I have a 6600k at 4.5 ATM and kind of wish I'd gone 5820k instead now.)

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Nipples could be a really great HEDT machine. Very interested in seeing it benched.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


AVeryLargeRadish posted:

I like nipples well enough but I question their processing power, also I prefer dual core nipples for some reason, any more than that just seems weird to me.

Oh I agree, I question if I'd ever need 16 Nipples.
Some people these days have sick workloads.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 19:50 on May 15, 2017

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


The Niples platform can't come out soon enough.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Epyc win ryzing from that!

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


AMD family names are my guilty pleasure :shepspends:

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


NewFatMike posted:

Hugethreads.jpg

Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:

So cringey, it went off the deep end and looped right back around to awesome
That's it. It's a response to whateverlake +5% / year.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 23:50 on May 16, 2017

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


taqueso posted:

They should have called it i10 to gently caress with intel.

i16, i32 etc

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Why wait, old yeller that old machine.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


SwissArmyDruid posted:

Samsung to target 4nm in 2020. That's when the WSA ends for good, right? http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1331785

http://wccftech.com/amd-kyzen-aragon-pharos-promethean-coreamp/

Sthap, AMD. Stahp plz.

Kyzen
Aragon
Pharos
Promethean
Zenso
CoreAmp

They're too much for me and I love a good tacky 90's product name. They've looped around from crap > cool back to crap again and staying there.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


eames posted:

Oh god that list looks like their PR department is now registering random trademarks to generate "hype"

PS: dibs on Hyzenberg

Hindenberg Zeppelin cores.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


They can probably tweak it quite well for a long time, like Intel's core.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Risky Bisquick posted:

So rerelease the same core for about a decade, sounds good

I'm not convinced an entirely new basic architecture is required all that often, unless it's fubar to start with, like BD, if they have r+d money.

We'll see, but it stagnating is a concern.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 00:35 on May 27, 2017

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


I just hope AMD doesn't epycally ryzen too close to the sun like a Promethean.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Yes. I think they can get by for a few years, by then ditching gloflo is a great opportunity.

Intel's ticks have been progressively more boring, perhaps as the performance difference grew. We'll see if that continues.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 08:57 on May 27, 2017

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


I'm surprised AMD don't sell a lightweight compute card that's just a standard card, cheaper, with no video outputs, and separate the markets.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


fishmech posted:

Don't they, for the normal high performance computing market?

That'll be why I guess. Maybe when Vega comes they could keep selling 580s that way.

I'm surprised sapphire or someone isn't already doing that.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


It's a great book. I'm around 3/4 into it.
Just expect all your geeky friends to want to borrow it, because they will.

I miss the old Arstechnica.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Wasnt bitcoin mining the cause of 480 sellouts as well?

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


What causes miner purchases to bomb?

I wish I'd bought one when it hit a low.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 08:38 on May 30, 2017

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


There's no AMD CPU that would drive the onboard graphics output yet, anyway.

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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Paul MaudDib posted:

This is all about economies of scale. What's the savings from removing a few extra discretes and side-chips in mass-production quantities? Not much. How much does it cost to set up the pick-and-place machine for new boards, and track an entire other second lineup? At least some. How many are they going to sell? Well, either very few, or their entire stock - in which case you're now sold out for months until you can ramp production (by which time it may well be over).

I'm sure you can see why they aren't jumping all over that.

Necro quoting, with an interesting link that needs salt.

https://videocardz.com/70162/amd-and-nvidia-preparing-graphics-cards-for-cryptocurrency-mining

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