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i'd like to claim there's a limit to what the us can do to nk without the permission of sk who don't want to start a war (especially post-park) but with trump who knows
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jBrereton posted:why the gently caress would the US listen to south korea? the american bases aiming guns at north korea aren't in china some of them are in japan or floating but even those aren't immune to the immense political difficulties caused by sk telling the us to gently caress off when the main justification for american presence there is defending sk from nk
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jBrereton posted:lol the us presence in okinawa is not unpopular with the japanese government, or at least, not unpopular enough that they want to go through the effort of crowbarring the americans out. what the okinawan public thinks doesn't matter. but even if the trump admin went nuts and pissed off the japanese government enough that they demanded withdrawal, then went double-nuts and refused to go, and somehow were not destroyed domestically by arbitrarily annexing territory from an ally and endangering their whole alliance system, the okinawa bases are on a few small islands surrounded by the us navy, rather than on the japanese mainland surrounded by the jsdf compare korea, where the us position is much more dependent on local cooperation and there's much more scope for the us to anger the locals because the enemy state they're antagonising is a short drive across the DMZ away rather than on the far side of the sea of japan
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jBrereton posted:South Korea isn't important and the US doesn't care about its feelings. If the US cared about domestic opinion wrt its bases it would have been out of Europe decades ago, but it doesn't. Hope that clarifies things for you. south korea is important, obviously so. it is a first world country with a first world economy and a first world military in a strategic position right next to 1. america's main international rival and 2. the country america is currently beefing with. the united states does not care about the opinion of the local public about its bases. it cares about the opinion of the local governments which it relies on for military cooperation. those local governments typically do not care about the opinion of their local publics about the bases, which is why the united states doesn't. the united states is obliged to care about south korea's 'feelings' w/r/t its bases because if those 'feelings' turn against it the bases are gone unless the united states defeats the south korean government, an act which, if even possible, would be a triumph of foreign policy to make iraq 2003 look like panama 1989. one reason it would be so stupid is because south korea doesn't even object to having the bases there, and they have no real reason to do so unless america starts doing stupid poo poo like starting wars with the north without southern consent.
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like, it's such an obviously stupid thing to do that the only reason we're even discussing it is the trump factor, and I wouldn't expect it even from him
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i don't buy the hersh story but i'm not 100% because the bm response was so wanky and petulant i couldn't bring myself to actually read it
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khan sheikoun is horrific but ultimately a rounding error in the aggregate suffering of the civil war trump raring off half-cocked and being rewarded with lockstep support from the supposedly trump-sceptical press is not a good precedent for the next 3.5 years of the country that did the iraq war
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quote:The study team suggests there is a single core defense implication of hyperconnectivity—”speed kills.” With hyperconnectivity comes a quantum increase in the velocity of change in strategic circumstances. lmao is all us military writing like this
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chuunibyou demo sensou ga shitai
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https://twitter.com/JohnAllenGay/status/918615917826801665 can't wait for 'your allies, on whom your position depends, have explicitly stated they will align with your enemies against you if you do this' to have as much effect on the death cult as a brisk gust of neutrinos
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