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jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Yemen:
:nms::nms::nms::nms:

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/mar/16/yemen-conflict-7-million-close-to-famine
Because coalition forces keep getting owned by Houthi militias, the Saudis and their Gulf State & Hadi-government allies have implemented a full blockade on Northern Yemen, which is slowly starving millions of people to death including children. The Saudi-led coalition has engaged in terror bombing in civilian areas, including the triple-tap bombing of a funeral, and in response Western governments have continued selling them more weapons. The United States in response to these atrocities, continues providing the Saudi coalition with logistical support and helps to enforce the blockade. Likely because nobody has shown President Trump any pictures of all the beautiful starving babies we're making.
The Yemen war fuckin blows and I genuinely don't understand why The Slightly Overgeneralised West pretends that Hadi is the leader of a legitimate government they should support by directing the Saudi air force.

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jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Peel posted:

i'd like to claim there's a limit to what the us can do to nk without the permission of sk who don't want to start a war (especially post-park) but with trump who knows
why the gently caress would the US listen to south korea?

Like what leverage do they hold?

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Peel posted:

the american bases aiming guns at north korea aren't in china

some of them are in japan or floating but even those aren't immune to the immense political difficulties caused by sk telling the us to gently caress off when the main justification for american presence there is defending sk from nk
lol

what like all the immense domestic political difficulties caused by US troops not just being unpopularly based in Okinawa but casually raping the locals? (ie absolutely none whatsoever)

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Peel posted:

compare korea, where the us position is much more dependent on local cooperation
South Korea isn't important and the US doesn't care about its feelings. If the US cared about domestic opinion wrt its bases it would have been out of Europe decades ago, but it doesn't. Hope that clarifies things for you.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

rudatron posted:

I'm guessing that Obama had been trying to rein in the Sunni-Shia poo poo for the last 8 years, and Salman was waiting for the green light from Trump personally before he did this.
The Yemen war is a Sunni-Shia war, ISIS in Iraq is a Sunni-Shia war, and ISIS vs Hezbollah is a Sunni-Shia war in Syria, the repression of Bahraini and Qatar protestors during the Arab spring was a Sunni-Shia conflict, and Saudi Arabia executing Shi'ite clerics is more of the same. It's not exactly been a great decade for it.

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jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
Even if Kelly-Anne forced his head under the next time he asks her to share his dirty bathwater, I don't think Mike Pence or even the messiah Bernie would sort out that particular hornet's nest any time soon.

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