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Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

you can only get so far on looks

# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 15:31

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# ¿ Apr 30, 2024 01:30

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

her cheekbones look like swollen knees and not for a generation has the continent seen a more remorseless killer of men

# ¿ Apr 18, 2017 15:41

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

VikingSkull posted:

reminder that not a shred of evidence about direct Russian interference has ever been produced

lol yeah i know its hilarious how quickly rachel maddow turned into glenn beck

# ¿ Apr 19, 2017 01:53

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Poetic Justice posted:

https://twitter.com/hillaryclinton/status/791263939015376902

shiteating brat

# ¿ Apr 19, 2017 03:36

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Dr. Scheme posted:

https://vine.co/v/erQH0K9JthD

far out man

# ¿ Apr 19, 2017 04:08

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

VikingSkull posted:

you know you're a bad candidate when a cartoon frog and a red hat whip your rear end lol

theres something repulsive about hillary clinton. truly repulsive and weird. a necropsy would reveal all kinds of huge distended sacks of unknown function.

# ¿ Apr 19, 2017 04:31

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Pick posted:

Obama is completely paper-thin and so arrogant that he thinks that he is actually some perfect entitled king when he didn't manage to do poo poo other than look good in a suit. It's no wonder he fellated coastal liberal cities, they're exactly his type. If he'd had a different major in college, he'd be programming apps that deliver cottage cheese via drone (instead of using them to shoot people).

Frankly, Trump and Obama are two sides of the same ridiculous entitlement. Nobody liked Hillary but she had the credentials. Obama barely had better credentials than Trump.

goebbels had a phd should he be potus? looks like youve got a lot of growing up to do. peace out

# ¿ Apr 19, 2017 04:56

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Pick posted:

I'm saying that Obama as a guy who taught a couple law school classes and was a first term senator is about as qualified to be president as some loving rich windbag from new york city. i.e. about 0%.

It should have been Biden and not Obama, and then it should have been Sherrod Brown instead of Clinton.

the credentials argument fell on deaf ears bc clintons creedentials to alot of people were proof positive that she was an incompetent resume padding hack,i remember rachel maddow making the saddest face when sanders called her unqualified and they had sanders wife on and she was like no shes held a lot of positions but shes been mediocre to bad in all of them

# ¿ Apr 19, 2017 05:02

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Yug posted:

Let's see she was a lawyer that laughed about getting child rapists off for slut shaming, she was on a corporate board or two I think after that? She was on the watergate committee for a little bit and then got kicked off for ethics reasons ( super lol ). She had the good fortune to be married to a competent politician that raped other ladies and became first lady of arkansas and the US. She became senator of new york when the party cleared the field for her in the primary and the general election in new york for a democrat is a joke. Lost to Obama in 08 because she's incompetent. Secretary of state and most notable for being the loudest voice in ruining libya forever. Then lost the 2016 to donald loving trump because she's incompetent.

Am I leaving anything out or did I get anything wrong? This is all off the top of my head so please let me know.

she hosed up libya pretty bad. obama defered to her judgement against his own and she hosed it up so bad. absolute jabroni

# ¿ Apr 19, 2017 05:13

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Alienwarehouse posted:

Tulsi Gabbard. She told Clinton to get hosed after Bernie lost the primary.

i dont get the tulsi gabbard poo poo. shes like 24

# ¿ Apr 19, 2017 05:15

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

VikingSkull posted:

this is the funniest election prediction video tbh

lol the smugass face on that other woman lmbo

# ¿ Apr 20, 2017 02:36

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Pick posted:

Literally my main concern at this point is jobs, and I think Hillary would have been better about it for me and my peeps, but frankly the election is over so I don't really give a poo poo beyond the lessons we learned and moving forward.

Legitimately like Sherrod Brown though.

yeh cuz hes black right

# ¿ Apr 20, 2017 04:27

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

i think the trans movement is just the vanguard of the mra movement but im also a marxist and a witch (white)

# ¿ Apr 20, 2017 04:29

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Blue Raider posted:

if you could ditch abortion, you might be pleasantly surprised

yeah i read somewhere that a lot of people who vote republican really only do it bc of abortion, like lots of catholics are pretty liberal especially economically.lots of catholic thinkers--pope eg--are not libertarian capitalists and the church has a long history of being opposed to it. etcetc. its kind of a turnoff though when noone can articulate why they think abortion is okay,not saying there arent any arguments there certainly are but its not like people hate 'choice' or some bs when its an anthropological question and a very complex one. if my neighbor head was fused to my leg in a welding accident i cant cut him head off with a chisel right

# ¿ Apr 20, 2017 04:51

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Pick posted:

Actually you could. There's a tremendous amount of protection in the USA for the self and the right to act in a self-interested manner.

ill chisel his head open like a coconut and drink his brains then :rolleyes:

# ¿ Apr 20, 2017 04:55

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Pick posted:

You can't desecrate a corpse though.

ill eat his brains in the 6 seconds his brain steam is still alive then

# ¿ Apr 20, 2017 04:57

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

i wish i was the ayatolah so i could say 'ayatolahyouso'

# ¿ Apr 20, 2017 05:00

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

so what do u hip dudes think of trans people and abortions

# ¿ Apr 20, 2017 05:01

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

anyways im gonna listen to 11hours of patrice oneal talking about movies on youtube

# ¿ Apr 20, 2017 05:05

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMuYvpKoVdQ&t=2451s

# ¿ Apr 20, 2017 05:08

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

BV posted:

Have Roman Catholics in recent years been blowing themselves up in crowded areas, hijacking and crashing airplanes, cutting off people's heads, burning people alive, drowning people in large cages, and overthrowing governments and imposing some sort of Christian law complete with sex slaves?

i remember when the nightclub shooting happened and the guy who posted the thread was like 'sounds like a disgruntled protestant preacher to me' lol

# ¿ Apr 20, 2017 05:32

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

Correct. And, ironically, the social liberalizing forces like both liberals and libertarians are "useful idiots" in this regard when they are prodded into attacking traditional systems of value, which must be cleared away so that the absolute rule of money power can be created.

This why weird stuff like legalizing prostitution is on the agenda. Because for money power to be absolute, all human relationships must be commoditized. No love, only sex work and companion work. No family, only child care work and home aides. No ethnicity, no race, no religion to get in the way. Everything can be bought with money by those with money.

# ¿ Apr 20, 2017 05:35

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Pick posted:

There's no community left.

People don't know their neighbors and don't expect to spend a lifetime around them. Until her death, my grandmother wrote 2 cards a week to each her old neighbors. Piles and piles of letters, and she received just as many. Those were strong, lifelong bonds.

friends and religion are just a crutch. me i face up with a flinty stare to the harsh realities of the world, forming my boundless internal energies with titanic acts of pure will

# ¿ Apr 20, 2017 05:47

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

COMRADES posted:

I think there are communities but they aren't so obvious. Yeah you're not so friendly with your neighbors anymore but at the same time we have relationships with other people online and form communities elsewhere.

I know you're about to say "but that's virtual and doesn't replace face to face stuff" which may be true to an extent but I would say the relationship with the neighbor has always been pretty drat shallow on average (except the outlier "as seen on TV" friendly relationships) to begin with so I'm not really losing out on anything. I get plenty of face time with my family and friends anyway.

Also part of what you're saying is just the rural/urban divide and it isn't anything new. People have been making that same complaint for decades and it's usually just down to people in more densely populated areas are too drat busy running the rat race to sit back and chill out on the patio with the neighbors like what happens in more rural areas.

And now my fingers hurt so good night, comrades.

no people really did used to know their neighbors especially their neighbors wives

# ¿ Apr 20, 2017 05:52

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

Actually the function hasn't been fully replaced by anything at all. There's just less community period. The closest things are gross empty mockeries of community like a community of being obsessed with Harry Potter or whatever.

Old-fashioned communal groups like blue collar bowling leagues and fraternal orders were once a real part of everyday life, though now they're mostly just a weird historical artifact encountered in cartoons.

And the average American is forced to move every 4ish years for work. So they lose touch with their neighbors and family, and are too overworked to make new connections. They become atomized people. The rise of the national brands dovetails with the increasing mobility of American workers, since they are thrown into mew areas without much local knowledge.

Obviously this is all disastrous for political organization and action.

This is how you end up with alienated miserable people who eventually snap and start shooting people.

Imo it's also why immigrants tend to outperform native-boen American - having an identity and community helps them succeed and be less miserable

*swoops in with emeter*

# ¿ Apr 20, 2017 05:56

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

No idea, I was born into my community and have few real alternatives where I won't have to give up a lot of stuff because I am physically different.

very tall? obese? clinically ugly in the face? or is it a stink u have

# ¿ Apr 20, 2017 05:59

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Sebastien Lenorman posted:

Spitballing? I suppose its because in general its a multi-thousand year old fairly insular community so there is lots of neopotism involved (really a community helping itself). Also for a long time it was literally illegal for christians to charge each other interest so the banks were literally all controlled by jewish people. Who do people hate more than the landlord/tax collector?

My friend told me he literally got a high paying job at apple because he was jewish and another jewish person wanted to give the job to another jewish person.

really puts the ROM in pogrom haha

# ¿ Apr 20, 2017 14:11

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

nigga crab pollock posted:

*guy with no less than six star wars tattoos on him* like im pretty sure the matrix is a metaphor for religion. the machines are god. except, like, if god actually existed because he doesn't.

# ¿ Apr 20, 2017 15:19

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Poetic Justice posted:

Those freaking eyes man

# ¿ Apr 21, 2017 02:45

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

whata we need is democrayc in the workplace and the free casting of spells

# ¿ Apr 21, 2017 04:38

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

VikingSkull posted:

people are saying things are worse now but they don't seem worse to me

in fact, I think things are more funny and therefor better in this odd alternate dimension we've been catapulted into

imgine a nuke fight. fucken sick

# ¿ Apr 21, 2017 04:39

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

VikingSkull posted:

hopefully in HD or else why the gently caress am I paying taxes

i want a nuke to go off somewhere far away and i run outside so excited and eveyrone else is doing the same thing. i dont know why i ran outside but ive never felt so alive. in the background on tv there are reports of human ash raining down on the south china sea and the air over here taste so crisp

# ¿ Apr 21, 2017 04:41

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

maskenfreiheit posted:

glenn greenwald doesn't care about black people

glenn greenwald rules i love him especially because of how much he annoys democrats

# ¿ Apr 21, 2017 05:10

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

VikingSkull posted:

Please clap is the funniest political statement of our age

i loved when he said 'gimme the clap' and everyone laughed at him and he fell down a manhole

# ¿ Apr 21, 2017 05:31

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

maskenfreiheit posted:

You don't get rich on speaking fees from decrying income equality

hillary clinton was rich as a cheesecake lol

# ¿ Apr 21, 2017 06:08

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

anime was right posted:

i thought rand paul was gonna win because the general mood of the electorate was anti-establishment. this was before the escalator.

i was so, so wrong but for the right reason

his 'lets get randy' sunk him basicaly

# ¿ Apr 21, 2017 07:41

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

im a progressive burger

# ¿ Apr 22, 2017 00:49

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

a man of contrasts,he order a progressive burger with a side of freedom fries

# ¿ Apr 22, 2017 00:55

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Testikles posted:

The internet is really what has made us all more rabid and hateful. These are my seven reasons:

1. Humans have very short attention spans. We like quick and easy digestible information. The listicle is only popular because it delivers information in an appealing format. Those short two minute UpWorthy videos are popular because they are easy to watch. Humans are lazy creatures and we enjoy getting the gist of things quickly. It take a lot of effort to sit down and read a book, and unless we're really interested in a topic, that's a high hurdle to jump over if there's something easy close by. The information delivered is less nuanced, more stark, and delivered in simplest terms.

2. poo poo that gets us riled up is more popular. For better or for worse, we like to feel things. Stuff that makes us happy, sad, angry, whatever, is going to be more popular than something overly clinical. Feelings are supposed to be quick summaries of complex information (we don't need to go over the many reasons why we should run when a lion jumps out at us, we just need to be afraid), and it's an easy system to hijack. We're therefore more inclined towards information that provokes a response, not necessarily something that is 'objectively true'.

3. There is too much information. We have near total information about the world. We always assumed that with total information we would make better choices, but now we are so flooded with it, that we can't tell what is actually important anymore. Now when faced with a complex issue we can literally bury ourselves in the details and miss the topic at large. To take a very low level example, if I wanted to go out and buy a car, in previous decades, I'd rely on the salesperson or the automaker for a select set of specs and maybe a magazine review. Maybe I'd consult a few people I know and trust and see what they think. I could mull it over and then decide. Now not only do I have that information, I now online ratings from multiple websites, I have youtube reviews, I have podcasts, I have facebook posts etc.The world is now able to weigh in on my car making decision. I now have to curate this information on my own and create trusted networks that were taken for granted before. But at the same time....

4. The gatekeepers have been bypassed. The internet has opened the floodgates for content creation. Where before we would really have to rely on a very select set of taste makers for our media, now anybody can produce content. Things that used to be hard to come by: the niche, the strange, avant-garde, conspiratorial and underground, are now very capable of being produced and delivered just as quickly as 'mainstream media.' What might have been a 'zine' trade between a few in the know, can suddenly blow up in a Vice article overnight. This has had the great advantage of bringing new talent and content to light that was missed by the gatekeepers. This served also to discredit them too. By intentionally or unintentionally missing information, the gatekeepers can appear ignorant or dishonest. It damages their credibility. People begin to ask why aren't things they find important being covered?

5. The internet destroys and creates tribes. Humans are tribal creatures. We naturally find reasons to cluster together, and they are arbitrary. In the past the easiest reason to form a tribe was by proximity. You lived in the same area and because you lived in the same area, you generally spoke the same way, dressed the same way, and did the same things. As civilization progressed, politics and economics helped shape that too. You could belong to a class, you could be part of a profession, and with proximity, and its offshoot culture, you could be an ethnicity or of a religion. So there were really only so many acceptable or reasonable dimensions of tribe. Regardless of how it forms, the tribe sets out many key things: mores and behaviours. The tribe tells you what to do, how to do it, and why it should be done. No person is completely immune to this.

On the one hand modernism and post-modernism has really screwed around with that. With the hyperfocus on originality and the individual, people feel dislocated from the world at large. People now have to find social meaning through other means and the internet has facilitated that. We can now bond over things that have stronger meanings to us like hobbies, experiences, or unsurprisingly sex. As people come together to discuss stuff, they start forming a community, and then eventually a tribe, complete with insiders and outsiders.

On the other hand, we are now exposed to how different we all are. Whereas before there were issues unspoken, and due to the limits of communication we could just assume that the world around us conformed to our expectations, with the rise of the internet, we suddenly are faced with the fact that people disagree. The large super tribes of government and nation are fraying because we can no longer take it for granted that other people elsewhere in the country, the state, the city, or even our own neighborhoods represent us. We start to cling to our fundamental beliefs in fear of losing ourselves. For conservatives, they might entrench themselves in religion, for liberals, it might be identity politics.

6. We all think we are the good guy. Nobody imagines themselves being the bad guy (excluding the rare case). At worst people might fantasize about being an anti-hero. They have unlikable qualities but these unlikable qualities are precisely what gives them an edge over their enemies. Now because who the good guys are, are defined by your tribe, there will be stark disagreement over who the good guy is in any scenario. Even groups of people who might otherwise agree will get into arguments because they are simply not the 'right' people. This might be fine if it wasn't for the fact that one aspect of being the good guys is often fighting the bad guys. The internet has created the perfect arena for this. With many clashing opinions and meeting tribes, you can now interject yourself into any fray you want to. If somebody is bashing your tribe anywhere at any time, you can be there instantaneously with little effort on your part, to fight the good fight.

Another effect is because we are the good guys, we tend to look for things on the internet that affirm our tribe and our identities within the tribe. It takes a lot to go out and challenge your own belief system and the path of least resistance is to ignore that. We build echo chambers for ourselves and even though many people might pride themselves on being open minded, they are usually only open minded to things that do not disrupt their tribal core beliefs.

7. Best of all, there are no consequences. Where tribal conflicts often meant the threat of violence or even death, the internet removes that from the equation. You can be as vile as you want with little or no repercussions. Things that you might never consider saying to a person's face are all suddenly kosher and because you will never meet this person, there is no reason to give quarter or relent. They are the enemy and their destruction can only mean affirmation of your beliefs.

The conclusion is that we have this scenario: we have rapidly reproducing unfiltered information often lacking nuance flooding the internet. It is difficult to sort through what is important and due to our tribal tendency and our own human faults, we will tend to select the easiest absorbable information, with the greatest emotional appeal, and what conforms to our beliefs. Other people are doing the same, and we are exposed to them. We realize we don't like them very much disassociate from them, and start to form our own social circles. We are constantly bombarded with contrary information, and begin to attack outwards against people who don't agree with us, because they are not like us and are bad people. On their own end they do the same. America is slowly filling up with warring tribes of people who do not follow traditional definitions, and the traditional definitions are falling apart. Everybody is splintering in every direction and there is no reason to compromise.

dude ur a genius about this

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Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

bongwizzard posted:

Sure, but like the world has already tried Marxism and found it to be crap. I'm all about trying something else, but it's hard to get excited about another failed idea.

there is no one 'marxism' to try. we also tried totally unrelegulated capitalism and it blew the world up in the great depression. rather than say 'loooks like we tried capitalism time to pack it in' most countries tried a different kind of capitalism and its worked for a while. now its gone back to not working in many ways. what ur thinking of when u say 'marxism' is totalitarian communism which everyone agrees doesnt work,just like gilded age unregulated capitalist insanity doesn't. there are other forms of socialism and who's to say what other forms of economic organisation may come about that are neither capitalist nor socialist.

# ¿ Apr 23, 2017 04:23

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