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phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

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It is my opinion that Obama is a Hamiltonian chiefly because he wasted his shot.

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Gene Hackman Fan posted:

and i just realized i posted this in the wrong loving thread but you know what? gently caress it, nothing matters.

It was still nice to see you :)

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revmoo posted:

D&D is by far the worst collection of people in this forum, and possibly the Internet. I am glad it exists, if nothing else, for the sake of containment.

Hear, hear, bovine hierophant.

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

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"Russian Wikileaks" eh?

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Jan 16, 2015

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new phone who dis posted:

She's going to run again. She thinks she has it all figured out.

But this election almost killed her. Surely she's pinning her hopes on her daughter. Why else is she getting buddy-buddy with all her mom's friends?

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Jan 16, 2015

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It really does seem like she can't leave things alone. I can't tell if it's her flunkies propping her up like a downed bareknuckle boxer or if it's her own overweening desire to be prez no matter what.

At any rate, I am pissed off that none of those celebs who said they would move followed through. But then, I didn't believe any of them were going to kill themselves either. It was all just a pity party because they couldn't understand they alienated a huge part of their base with their fanaticism.

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The_Franz posted:

What did you expect? They didn't move like they said they would when Bush Jr. won a second term either.

Terry Gilliam did. But then, I think he might've already had a place in England.

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

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Nope. He was the only American member of Monty Python.

Do it ironically posted:

do the dems still believe they did nothing wrong and blame everyone else for them losing?
According to the above link, Hillary takes full responsibility for her loss which she said was because of James Comey and Wikileaks and Russia and the basket of deplorables.

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A Wizard of Goatse posted:

basically anyone, if they wanted to. The last two presidents have pretty notably not been particularly "qualified" prior to winning office, and it's not like the establishment dems really considered that a minus when it was the easily molded guy on their team cashing in on outsider cred. It's just aristocratic whining from the kind of people appalled that anyone without an ivy league degree is even allowed to run for office, they could get the gently caress over it if they particularly cared about winning versus holding their breath until the world gave in and started fawning over their self-evident wonderfulness

But if they hold their breath that long they won't be able to huff their own farts.

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Rutibex posted:

psychologically Hillary has to do this. otherwise it would require her to have some sort of introspection, and engague with her many flaws and failings. i think that might drive a person to suicide; so for her mental health she will live in a delusion

In response to this, we should come up with something to sink her in the primaries. A twist on "it's her turn" maybe? Something like #skipclinton.

She's just never gonna shut up though. No matter what, she's going to insist on being Miss Democracy, even though the reason she hates Wikileaks in the first place is that they leaked the stole cables.

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Jan 16, 2015

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Blue Train posted:

One of the networks, CNN I think, said on air that it was illegal to view them

lol following orders like good democrats.

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

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I never cared for the "lesser of two evils" argument. The whole election was so vile and people are acting as though the two evils don't have any control of how evil they are. They could have improved by degrees or magnitudes, but they didn't. The DNC didn't fail *us* because it no longer serves *us*.

Essentially the only things they are leftist on are bullshit non-issues that don't matter to serious people, which they use as distractions so we don't clamor for free healthcare, better schools and higher wages.

At least they're (ostensibly) pro-choice. That's about it.

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

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Anthony Weiner lounged in the middle of his expansive living room, the smells of the summer turning to autumn blowing gently through the balcony window. He wiped a small film of sweat from his palm on to his bare leg, finally touching his phone. One tap of the finger and the game would continue...

"ME AM DUMBEST gently caress SINCE ANYTHING EVAR. WULD YOU LIKE DIS DICK? AM HORNY NOW. HUMA NO HOME. HOW ABOUT A PIX, SEXAY LADAY? YU LIKE WHAT YUO SEE? ME GOING gently caress THIS WHOOOOOLE THING UP. YEP. I AM."

He pressed "send".

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

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It never ceases to amaze me when giant transnational companies that shape laws worldwide pretend to care about minorities because it's "in" right now and people buy it.

You may know some ignorant shitkickers that love inequality, but it's the rich and the business class that benefit the most from racism and bigotry. They don't conjure it up from nothing, but if you pay attention you'll notice they do very little to change it.

Nuclearmonkee posted:

When poor white guy living in a trailer hears about program to assist poor minority X and not him he gets pissed, and then when he says "what the gently caress" he's called racist or "well actually you are privileged" at. Them he goes and votes against his interests because gently caress YOU.

Also this.

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Gammatron 64 posted:

It's almost like the age old strategy of Divide and Conquer has evolved.

There's plenty of old-fashioned racists, but that's largely socially unacceptable these days. The more popular form of bigotry in the modern era is disguised as liberal benevolence. It's "the white man's burden."

The end result is that you still get poor people fighting among themselves instead of joining together, just like the Southern Strategy. But this time it has a "friendlier face."

The Southern Strategy is exactly what came to mind, I had just forgotten the phrase. Thanks for reminding me. The frustrating part is that it's not some aspect of human nature that is immutable, it's not that people have their lot and so they should just get used to their stratum. Everything would change under the right conditions and there's really only a small fraction of people who are lined up to stop it. They come from all kinds of backgrounds, but their interests are what make them cohere.

Even though I think words like "equality" and "brotherhood" etc. are nonsense jargon, there is a sentiment that the real enemy is the hand holding one down. That hand isn't a race or an individual. It is a crafted system. People made it, they can break it if they want to. Though the so-called elite claim they have to use power to protect us from threats (including ourselves) there is no reason for wholesale oppression at all - unless you're scared shitless that you might lose all your ill-gotten money and power.

Race was an interesting key point in the election, because everybody was talking about it. It was something to hear black people getting called racist when they didn't support Hillary. I don't know how it works in the megalopoli like NY, but in the midwest, many black voters I talked to didn't buy Obama and they didn't give much of a poo poo what white people thought this time around either. There was kind of an unspoken thing where they knew it's all bullshit and it didn't need to be pointed out. I can picture some woke dope trying to jar them out of such thinking, because those people have all kinds of prejudice that their own self-righteousness prevents them from seeing.

Enough people shouting, everyone stops listening. And the people who organized the chaos keep moving tons of money from public funds in to private accounts, unnoticed. Where's the media? By now I think most of us can agree - that's in their pocket, too.

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Jan 16, 2015

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I used to go to a laundromat run by first generation immigrants from...somewhere in Africa. I remember overhearing the owners say that when gay marriage was ruled constitutional they burst into tears. Like, I don't know what country they came from but I was on the verge of asking if they thought it would be better to burn gay people alive.

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Toadvine posted:

That's bigoted
I have it on good authority* that I'm a racist monster and also an idiot.










*strangers on the internet

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

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I am saying there are plenty of third world shitholes that kill people for being gay (and they're not all muslim extremists either).

And there's a difference between clamming up for political gain and actively opposing gay marriage on a moral basis. Short answer: No, I don't think everyone against gay marriage has murder on the mind. But it seems to be pretty prevalent in squalid regions and places where they can put you on trial for sorcery and what-have-you.

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CharlestonJew posted:

drat they adjusted to American culture pretty fast. Crying about stuff that has 0 negative effect on them or anyone else, in 1 generation no less
Also when I mentioned sorcery I totally forgot about the Satanic Panic of the 80s-90s.. I withdraw any pretense that America is better than the third world.

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Toadvine posted:

Why do you assume they were from a squalid third world shithole
Given the fact they were so vocal about how bad the gays were, oblivious to their clientele of young people...ahhh, I flipped a coin to make that call.

basic hitler posted:

The satanic panic only mattered to a subset of Christians and you coukd get through life not thinking too hard about it unless your social circle consisted of people regurgitating poo poo their non denominational evangelical pastor said
But don't forget that they had special police task forces and politicians leveraged that poo poo, sometimes for obscene gain. It wasn't just on Sally Jessie Raphael.

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

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I waited for the movie to come out.

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"Superdelegates are just part of the way the system works. It's checks and balances."

"Boooo! Throw the electoral college in the trash! That's not democracy!"

- the same person

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basic hitler posted:

I nearly forgot this story but you reminded me and i feel compelled yo share. My 15 year old self briefly set my steam handle to a jewish surname for steam/counter strike, to mess with some skinheads that kept popping in on my home server. The clan that ran it wouldnt ban them because they toed the line enough to not be outright racist in comms. I hated this so on top of the name change I would set my family bible on the computer desk and recite from the Torah. The bait worked and i got them banned by puppet mastering a very racist meltdown from someone. That weekend featured his aryan posse joining the server specifically to scream incoherent nazi bullshit in legit hate and anger towards me, and i changed it and dropped the act when someone with a security background actually doxxed me and began to harass me under the pretext of me being for real Jewish, even though the word got out it was just a troll. I got mailed a box of poo poo with the turds organized into a swastika. My parents filed a police report lol

This happened because i named myself Goldstein and recited leviticus at someone.

I didn't realize you could open the ark of the covenant in counterstrike.

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Socialism would be a good thing, but I don't see how we're ever going to get it with the population going up without cease. How do you feed all the impoverished? Cultivate more land? What about global warming? Do we just pack everybody in to the cities and leave all the arable land to be farmed?

Trying to see too far ahead always depresses me. My only comfort is knowing that I could be wrong.

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JB50 posted:

We pay farmers to NOT farm. LOL if you think we cant produce enough food.
That's one of the more depressing things. Even if we have a surplus, we would have to keep producing it to feed those who couldn't produce their own. And without Socialism, people would rather let the surplus food rot than just give it away.

spacetoaster posted:

Don't be depressed. Current studies on birthrates are showing things should level out around 11 billion in 40 years or so. Meaning, that as countries develop birth rates drop off.

Very rarely do I see people with more than 1 or two kids (if they even have kids).
But with things as they are, countries don't really get developed unless they have resources or something else people want, right? If they get left behind, they'll become backwaters where extremism flourishes. And that usually means lots of kids, too, since extreme religions/politics need a lot of foot soldiers.

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JB50 posted:

Distribution is more of a problem when it comes to feeding starving people. Warlords and all that.
What about urban centers in places like India? They're not really under the threat of warlords. It's just that they have too many people to feed. Distribution should be easy enough, shouldn't it? Unless there's some barrier like bureaucratic incompetence?

I worry because post-apocalyptic fiction is one of the most popular kinds of literature at the moment. People are really taking this stuff too lightly. Either we'll have to regulate things ourselves or nature will do it for us and I can't tell which of those two would be ugliest. It's like when kids think that war is a fun adventure when it usually is only enjoyable for psychopaths.

poisonpill posted:

So you're suggesting the largest, richest, and most militarily-equipped nations should travel the world, forcibly developing countries for ideological purposes...?
Maybe not forcibly, but we enrich ourselves by taking what we need from here and there. If there's not a responsibility to be humane to other countries, where's the argument that we should be humane to our fellows?

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And the Republicans went in to "Eye of the Tiger". Two loving awful rally songs for goddamned morons, being played by people who have permanent free health care even after they leave office, even if they are shitcanned. gently caress the idiots in Congress who find this amusing.

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It was both.

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Plucky Brit posted:

To think Americans laugh at the British House of Commons having a distance between benches of two sword lengths.

I dunno. British politics seem more vicious between politicians and that's a good thing. Personally, I admire that you guys kick the poo poo out of your politicians more than we do here in the states.

It's your judicial system we make fun of, because of the silly wigs.

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JB50 posted:

No they dont:

http://www.snopes.com/members-congress-health-care/

You seem rather naive, how young are you?

My bad! They just get a 70% subsidy on all premiums IF they choose to fall back on the standard plan instead of selecting their own. Unless certain provisions apply, in which case they are 100% covered.

My point is: gently caress them. Don't know why you'd want to go to bat for people who are in bed with insurance companies, but hey. You do you, sweetheart.

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

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Nice rebuttal. From the mouth of a person who can't even cheat her way in on easy mode, no less.

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It's really telling that up until last summer the actual nature of TPP was still being ironed out and whenever the public asked for details they went "we can't tell you, it's a secret!" Then they cosseted people with the promise that the full text of the agreement would be available for perusal within a couple of months, right before the agreement was to be signed.

I had a brief spat on another forum (guess which) where I was asking how on earth we were supposed to trust such an agreement that was being kept so secret, especially an agreement between twelve countries. Then I got accused of being a phony Infowars account and told to gently caress off because "this is a grownup conversation and TPP is completely good (even though I, like you, have not read the deal)".

The nail in it's coffin, I think, was that Hillary supported and then pretended she didn't.

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I don't know that we'll have to wait for senators stabbing eachother. It seems possible that by 2020 politicians may actually go full crazy and start calling their detractors and opponents Nazis. That's when we'll know we're really through the looking glass.

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Gammatron 64 posted:

It's probably because everyone in the Democratic party is afraid of her. Cross her and she'll have your career ruined, or worse.

Bill tried to talk some sense into her, but there's just no use.

Still amazed that they replaced Bill with HAL 9000.

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Vastarien posted:

Literally one of the funniest/most retarded things I've ever seen on the internet.

That amid people talking about their 8 year-olds and how "gonna drink til my liver explodes". Seriously, they were doing the thing a bunch of Republican crybabies did when Obama won twice, except theirs was usually "my dad/mom/grandfather is crying" and in D&D and a lot of twitters it was 8 year-olds. Somebody pointed out it was consistently age 8 getting the spotlight and suddenly there was a switch-up.

HOW AM I GOING TO EXPLAIN TO MY CHILDREN THAT HITLER IS BACK FROM THE DEAD AND ALL THEIR FRIENDS ARE GETTING DEPORTED?

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Gene Hackman Fan posted:

i mean, gently caress, they're already marketing ponds as "organic pools" now.

As opposed to synthetic pools that pull you inside and cyborg you?

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

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Cool. I'm gonna start selling rain/runoff water as Organic H2O.

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Streak posted:

there was probably no political family who were more in tuned with mainstream news and mass media that the clintons, there have been loving documentaries about how close they were with CNN etc back in the day.

Like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK3vpdmEFow&t=34s

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The night when we realized Trump was going to be president was mercifully comfortable because all the people with too many screws loose made a goddamn scene. Even the mods were going berserk. Then the say no to hate crowd started calling for the construction of a guillotine.

I was deaf to their pleas, especially since I have been making that call for a long time and they never paid attention.

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Let's just hope it stays that way. I'd hate to reach 2020 and then have someone hit the reset button.

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