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Shadow225 posted:I know a lot of people have bounced off MM17 draft, either voluntarily or not, but I'm curious what BR is supposed to do as a color group. The theme seems to be sacrifice, but the payoffs just don't seem good. The only token enabler I remember is Dragon Fodder, the payoff is Mortician Beetle, and the sac outlets don't seem to affect the board like even a simple Penumbra Spider. I've only drafted it 3 times, but I have never seen anyone force it successfully, even when it seems open. Its a burn deck, you get in as much damage as you can with spike jesters, and kathari bombers, and then hope to finish them off with burn spells and creatures dying to falkenwrath noble. Or you just draft grixis for all the good cards
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Sometimes I wish I had talent: Howard Lyon paints Nissa, Steward of Elements in time-lapse Each frame is 1 minute; the actual time lapse covers 42 hours. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Apr 19, 2017 |
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Apr 19, 2017 19:25
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 of course Jace is the pro sex-haver in the MTG background.
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Chandra tries her best, okay? Edit: Also this is really amazing: Angry Grimace posted:Sometimes I wish I had talent: Siivola fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Apr 19, 2017 |
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Apr 19, 2017 19:31
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Chill la Chill posted:
I mean, Gideon's got a healthy interest, but whatever chance he had with Chandra is probably being blown by joining a local cult.
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Angry Grimace posted:Magic Story summary: Really, him summoning white knight allies should have been a tip-off.
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Anil Dasharez0ne posted:Really, him summoning white knight allies should have been a tip-off. 
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So I was looking around on mtgo league results and I keep noticing knightfall popping up every day. Anyone play this on the regular?? I have noticed I own every piece of this already.
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Sickening posted:So I was looking around on mtgo league results and I keep noticing knightfall popping up every day. Anyone play this on the regular?? I have noticed I own every piece of this already. Yes hi
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Some folks at a LGS I know of can't collectively figure out if goyf is same power and toughness in all zones. A lot believe its 0 outside of the battlefield. Everything I am finding online says its the same no matter which zone its in. This is compounded by the fact that both level 1 judges at this location are saying its zero.TheKingofSprings posted:Yes hi Does this have any decent matchup against death shadow?
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Sickening posted:So I was looking around on mtgo league results and I keep noticing knightfall popping up every day. Anyone play this on the regular?? I have noticed I own every piece of this already. I'm running it and unburial rites in paper. I like it, but I need a lot more reps before I get any good. TheKingofSprings posted:Yes hi I knew I liked you.
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Sickening posted:Some folks at a LGS I know of can't collectively figure out if goyf is same power and toughness in all zones. A lot believe its 0 outside of the battlefield. Everything I am finding online says its the same no matter which zone its in. This is compounded by the fact that both level 1 judges at this location are saying its zero. Judges who can't be arsed to spend 15 seconds to look up the card-specific rulings in Gatherer should actually just have their certifications taken away. The very first loving note in gatherer says "Tarmogoyf’s ability works in all zones, not just while Tarmogoyf is on the battlefield."
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Sickening posted:Some folks at a LGS I know of can't collectively figure out if goyf is same power and toughness in all zones. A lot believe its 0 outside of the battlefield. Everything I am finding online says its the same no matter which zone its in. This is compounded by the fact that both level 1 judges at this location are saying its zero. Its P/T are the same everywhere.
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Sickening posted:Some folks at a LGS I know of can't collectively figure out if goyf is same power and toughness in all zones. A lot believe its 0 outside of the battlefield. Everything I am finding online says its the same no matter which zone its in. This is compounded by the fact that both level 1 judges at this location are saying its zero. Less than stellar I would say, it runs a lot of Reflector Mages for that particular matchup in the sideboard. Game 1 we're a removal light deck against a deck that demands removal for the few threats it drops and that's why the board is now so heavily tuned against that deck (Unified Will, Reflector Mage, Meddling Mage all have play against it and have become pretty heavy options in the sideboard, the Meddling Mages and Unified Wills are probably also because of Eldrazi Tron). Also I'm stoked as gently caress to try Nissa in that deck when she comes out E: For reference, count the number of sideboard cards in here that at least have some game against Death's Shadow http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=15302&d=293046 TheKingofSprings fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Apr 19, 2017 |
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TheChirurgeon posted:Yeah the story this week was OK. That's because it was written by Kelley this week who is one of their two or three writers with actual talent.
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suicidesteve posted:Its P/T are the same everywhere. Yep, * in the P/T box is persistent across all zones according to the rules text, X is 0 everywhere except the board. E: Thinking about it more, are there even any nontoken creatures with "X/X" in the P/T box? Mistaken For Bacon fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Apr 19, 2017 |
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The easy way to remember this is: If it DEFINES the power/toughness (~'s p/t is equal to that) it works in all zones. If it MODIFIES the power/toughness (~ gets +X/+X for each thing) it only works on the battlefield.
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Firebatgyro posted:So I just moved down to Northern VA, whats the best place to go for pre-release around here? Victory Comics The Island Games Curio Cavern Comics and Gaming Fairfax
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Mistaken For Bacon posted:Yep, * in the P/T box is persistent across all zones according to the rules text, X is 0 everywhere except the board. Like, original runs of Keldon Warlord and such did.
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I think the funniest thing about Goyf is that it has reminder text that was supposed to be cool future stuff, but now it references an abandoned, archaic card type.
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Angry Grimace posted:I think the funniest thing about Goyf is that it has reminder text that was supposed to be cool future stuff, but now it references an abandoned, archaic card type. What if Interrupts and Mana Sources and all that good poo poo were still in the game
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little munchkin posted:Has there ever been a sacrifice archetype that actually worked? I remember it being awful in origins and BFZ as well. B/R sacrifice was actively good in m14. Neither color was deep, but when the deck came together it was very powerful. Molten Birth / Young Pyro mancer could be a powerful combo to create a lot of fodder. Not as good as the best U or U/G decks but in the top 3 archetypes.
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Angry Grimace posted:I think the funniest thing about Goyf is that it has reminder text that was supposed to be cool future stuff, but now it references an abandoned, archaic card type. You'll never take my tarfires!!
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dragon enthusiast posted:What if Interrupts and Mana Sources and all that good poo poo were still in the game Tarmogoyf's power is equal to the number of card types among cards in all graveyards and its toughness is equal to that number plus 1. (The card types are artifact, global enchantment, instant, interrupt, land, local enchantment, mana source, sorcery, and summon.)
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Tarmogoyf's power is equal to the number of card types among cards in all graveyards and its toughness is equal to that number plus 1. (The card types are artifact, global enchantment, instant, interrupt, land, local enchantment, mana source, sorcery, and summon.) Look at this newbie not knowing about poly artifacts and mono artifacts!
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Sickening posted:So I was looking around on mtgo league results and I keep noticing knightfall popping up every day. Anyone play this on the regular?? I have noticed I own every piece of this already. Kelvin Chew has been jamming this for months and I guess he has been 5-0ing leagues most of the time. On the mtg mint card site he has a couple articles about the deck.
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I actually don't understand the logic behind the poly and mono artifact classification. Did Garfield really think it was too much work to type out "tap to do X?"
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Angry Grimace posted:I actually don't understand the logic behind the poly and mono artifact classification. Did Garfield really think it was too much work to type out "tap to do X?" Well Garfield thought Magic itself would just be a small portable game to play in between rounds of other more involved games, soooooo...
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There were also Continuous Artifacts! It was basically just a mistake.
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If you imagine it as being just continuous artifacts vs one-shot artifacts it kind of makes sense. Poly artifacts are what happens when you try and shoe-horn "and you can use it multiple times!" into that directly instead of taking a step back and seeing if there's a better way to do the whole thing.
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Whoops, looks like a new set name accidentally leaked. http://twitter.com/MishrasFotoshop/status/854845797409714177 Normally I wouldn't give this much thrift, but: http://twitter.com/MishrasFotoshop/status/854849759483273216 If you put anything other than iconic-masters at the end of that url, it just gives you the normal products page. Iconic-masters exists and is explicitly blocked to the outside world.
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Cool, glad they followed up on Eternal Masters.
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Newbie here, this weekends prerelease will be my first time playing magic and hopefully not my last. Aside from actually going down to a local store and playing I've been doing all I can to get a grasp of the game. CFB gave Slither Blade a 0 but a 1 mana 1/2 that can't be blocked seems useful to me?
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tqilamknbrd posted:Newbie here, this weekends prerelease will be my first time playing magic and hopefully not my last. Aside from actually going down to a local store and playing I've been doing all I can to get a grasp of the game. CFB gave Slither Blade a 0 but a 1 mana 1/2 that can't be blocked seems useful to me? It just doesn't do enough to justify a spot in your deck. Pinging your opponent for 1 each turn isn't impactful.
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tqilamknbrd posted:Newbie here, this weekends prerelease will be my first time playing magic and hopefully not my last. Aside from actually going down to a local store and playing I've been doing all I can to get a grasp of the game. CFB gave Slither Blade a 0 but a 1 mana 1/2 that can't be blocked seems useful to me? It doesn't do very much. The only way it would ever be good is if you loaded it up with enchantments, but that's generally a bad strategy because you lose all the cards when/if it gets killed.
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tqilamknbrd posted:Newbie here, this weekends prerelease will be my first time playing magic and hopefully not my last. Aside from actually going down to a local store and playing I've been doing all I can to get a grasp of the game. CFB gave Slither Blade a 0 but a 1 mana 1/2 that can't be blocked seems useful to me? It's a really, really low impact thing to be spending a card on. It sounds good until you think about all the other things that card could have done for 1 or 2 more mana. There's no good equipment to put on it as far as I know, and trying to enchant things is a great way to get blown out, especially in sealed.
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Fair enough, thanks all.Angry Grimace posted:It doesn't do very much. The only way it would ever be good is if you loaded it up with enchantments, but that's generally a bad strategy because you lose all the cards when/if it gets killed. So the same apply to Sacred Cat, regardless of picking up Regal Caracal? *Or is that a different story because of lifelink and embalm? tqilamknbrd fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Apr 20, 2017 |
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tqilamknbrd posted:Fair enough, thanks all. Same applies really - Sacred Cat is only going to chump block twice. Regal Caracal just makes it a 2/2 lifelinker; double lifelink doesn't stack.
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tqilamknbrd posted:Newbie here, this weekends prerelease will be my first time playing magic and hopefully not my last. Aside from actually going down to a local store and playing I've been doing all I can to get a grasp of the game. CFB gave Slither Blade a 0 but a 1 mana 1/2 that can't be blocked seems useful to me? There's a concept that takes a while to appreciate where you have to ask "is this worth a card"? Its the same reason why ornithopter is unplayable. New players look at it and say "its free, this has to be playable, right". Its not, because cards are a precious, limited resource in the game. You might get access to 15 or 16 cards in your deck in a game. You want all your cards to be relevant to your goal of winning. 1 mana 1/2 unblockable might seem good, and the cost is probably right, but its not playable because it just doesn't do enough. If it was 2/2 unblockable, it would be far more powerful because now you have a little beater that can do a lot towards getting someone from 20 to zero.
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