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 Introduction/ Trick X Logic is a deductive reasoning game for the PSP that was released only in Japan in 2010. Deductive reasoning(推理） is a type of short novel genre in Japan that encourages the reader to think logically and solve the mystery. The appeal of the genre is the satisfaction you get when everything starts to make sense. 7 Prolific mystery writers each write their own murder mystery scenarios for different chapters in the game. Dangan Ronpa is part of this genre and is actually what inspired me to delve more into it because I wanted more class trials, and I ended up finding this. About the LP I will be doing a screenshot LP with transcripts of the dialog and short story segments, with links to cut scenes and music. This LP will be focused on audience participation. I encourage you guys to work together to figure out the solution, details on how will be explained later in the LP, basically you pick certain glowing sentences that have some relation to eachother that create an idea and you use those ideas to answer questions the game asks you. As a forewarning, I'm not a profesional translator. Translation requires proficiency in both languages in order to deliver sentence structure that equates the original writting. Seeing as how these are literarry works and I'm a high school drop out who has only been studying Japanese for 5 years, don't expect a perfectly readable translation. I can barely put my thoughts into words as is, let alone some author's literary work, take that as you will. If someone wants to be my editor and make my english translation sound more legible then I would be happy to work with you. There most likely won't be any need to worry about spoilers since I don't think anyone has ever heard of this game, so this will be new ground for everyone. Anyway grab a cup of tea, find your pipe and get to deducing. Table of Contents Practice Problem: The Pointing corpse
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Practice Problem: The Pointing Corpse We pick the only book that we can in the menu after pressing new game and we get greeted with this .png) Then an anime cutscene starts playing. You can watch the cutscene in this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtY42U8I5U I don't reccomend you watch the rest after the anime as there are a couple of mistakes and errors in the video. (Also I don't have the music that plays in the backround here, I couldn't find a way to rip it from the game data) After that happens we end up in the underworld talking with this fellow.   Yama: ...With that said Yoshikawa: The hell with that said. Yoshikawa: Who the hell are you? Yoshikawa: Where am I? Yama: ...You aren't suprised at all, huh. Yama: What a boring one. Yoshikawa: Who exactly are you? Yoshikawa:Take off that weird costume. Yoshikawa:Show your face. Yama:This ain't a costume. Yama:I've always been like this. Yoshikawa: ...What is this place? Yama:The underworld Yama:And I am the one who children fear the legends of, the ruler of the underworld... Yama:I am The Great King Enma. Yama:But everyone just calls me Yama. Yama:Pleasure to work with you. Yoshikawa: Underworld... You're saying this is hell? Yama: You've died. Yama: From falling off a building. Yama: Well, to be clear, only your soul is here. Yama:Your body is being taken to a hospital in the above world Yama:It's one of those coma state things Yama:If your soul returns, you will come back to life. Yama:You want to come back to life, don't you? Yama:You wouldn't want to live an eternity in a dreary place like this, would you? Yoshikawa:...Wanting to go back......I don't even feel like I would be able to..... Yama: Don't worry! Yama:If you do what you gotta do, I'll send you back safe and sound. Yama: It's a fitting job for a famed genius prosecutor. Yama:If you perfrom well in the job, I'll let you go back the normal world. Yoshikawa: Work...? Yama: Ah, a bite. Yama: I knew humans like woriking. Yama: Alright, first, read that there. Yama: The book you're holding.... Yama: I will give you an easy challenge to test your skills. Yama: That book is something called Akasha here in the underworld. Yama: Things that happen in the real world are written down in Akasha. Yama: This one is a record of a little case that occured in a certain library. Yama:You will be the one to deduce who the culprit is.He gives a tutorial on how to read, which I'm going to go ahead and skip.  And we finnally get to the meat of the game. Chapter 1: One problem ♪ Debussy-reveire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRjllL-MP0U  Once entering the audiovisual room, a stuffy wave of heat and smell of blood was immediatly felt. Different than the reading floor before that had air- conditioning, this room feels as hot as a sauna. "Very sorry, only this air conditioner is broken. However all the other rooms are fine " The library staff member who was following the detective,said while bowing and covering his mouth with a hankerchief. In the corner of the room was a man's corpse. He expired face down. There are various traces on the head that look like blunt trauma, the blood flowing from the wounds painted the white linoleum* floor red. With there being various blows to the head, it's imporbable to think that they were self-inflicted.  Next to the body was a door, on the middle of the door was a 180 centimeter high, and 20 centimeter wide glass slit* . "What is this door?" Asks the detective to the library staff. "That door leads to one of the library rooms. It can be entered from the reading floor, but it can also be entered from here as well for convinience. Because there is no video or CD library in this particular room" Looking through the door slit, large shelves of video tapes and CDs can be seen lined up. The detective through the slit looks around the library room on the other side, he tilts his head. "...Just what was he trying to point to...." For whatever reason, the victim's right index finger was pressing against the glass slit. Almost as if trying to point to something on the other side of the slit, or maybe trying to write some- thing down.  The next thing that drew the detective's eyes, was the double door windows showing the outside scenery. There was a rice field stretching out, 10 meters in front are train tracks. Maybe, one of the passengers saw the crime through the window?.... He thought, but this is the sixth floor. It may be best not to keep hopes up for that. Under the window are a few drops of blood. The victim was attacked by the window, and fell when heading toward to the library room door, he thought. This ends the first chapter with an interuption from Yama. He explains how to bookmark pages, and a file menu that holds character data, index, and diagrams. Here is a map of the library.  Chapter 2: The Two Suspects. Later, an autopsy by medical officer* was carried out, the time of death was presumed to be between 1PM to 2PM. The only one using the audiovisaul room at that time was only the victim himself, there were two people who used the neighboring library room.  One was a man named Kuroki. He was using the library room that was next to the murder scene from 12:2oAM to 1:20PM for one hour. It seems he was reading a book the whole time. The detective first invites Kuroki into the library room and asked. "Whileyou were in here did you happen to hear anything suspicous from the other room?" "Can't tell. Seeing as how I was too concentrated on reading ." incidentally the book he was reading were 3 thick volumes of Shounen manga. He intended to get through all of them, but he felt too cold, turned off the airconditioner, and left the room, he says.  The other one is a man named Shirai. He used the library room from 1:40PM to 2:00PM for exactly 20 minutes. "I was recording a train video. This place is good for recording trains. In terms of angle." He said while carefully showing off the heavy looking digital camera. When the data was confirmed in order to be sure, a video of trains coming and going was recorded for around 20 minutes was stored. There were no suspicous sounds or images shown, however for a couple of seconds in the start, a sweaty Shirai is shown opening the window. "Was the air conditioner off?" "Obviously. I wouldn't be able to handle having an annoyingky loud airconditioner cutting off the sounds of my trains running. Certainly, even with the windows closed it's still closed the air conditioner's radiator can be heard. It would probobly be heard even more if the windows were open.  After letting Shirai go, the detective is left in the library room alone, he turns looking around the area. There is no window on the door thats facing the reading floor connecting this room, so the state of the room can't be known from outside. Either Kuroki or Shirai could have carried out the crime without anyone's sight being able to reach them, although..... "Hm?" It was then that the detective found an unexpected discovery. It was something that was definitely not there when inspecting the body. "I see... So it's him." There the culprit's name was clearly lingering. This ends the last chapter of the Akasha. Yama starts talking to us again. juicedup fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Apr 18, 2017 |
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Yama: That's it for the [Akasha]. Yama: Going by that Akasha, I bestow judgement upon the damned here. Yama: However, sometimes there are troublesome [Akasha] Yama: Types where you can't figure out who the drat the damned one is Yama:How about it? Do you know the truth about this case? Yoshikawa:...Possibly, an answer is popping up in my head Yama: Hm, How about we make that "pop" into something concrete. Yama: There is a new power within you. Yama: A power to see suspicous articles from the [akasha] Yama: The black rose in your hand. Yama: When your soul is pierced by it's thorns, the droplets of your soul dyes the [akasha] red Yama: If you have the heart to see the truth, then (key)words will float from the [akasha] Yama:Depending on the keyword you will create an answer. Yoshikawa:Create an answer...? Yama: Yes, within the [akasha] things like the [tattva(truths)] are always in a set. Yama: It's this.  Yama: Once this [tattva] is complete, then finally judgement will be passed. Yama: It said show with one [epiphany] didn't it? Yama: When deducing the keywords in the [akasha], many epiphanys will be created. Yama: Creating [epiphanys] this way and using them will complete a [truth]. Yama:That is your duty. Yama:However, this dosen't mean all [epiphanys] created are correct. Yama: There may be bealiveable lies within an [epiphany]. Yama:Take care to not get confused. Yama:Well then, I will challenge you to solve this mystery. Yama:First a prerequisite before mystery solving.... Yama:One, everything written in the book is truth. Howeverthere is a possibility the culprit may be lying. Yama:One, a strong or weak motive is not what is important. Yama:One, The tricks and culprit do not rely on phenomena such as super ability or extra terrestials. Yama:Even me or the inhabitents of the underworld take no part in cases of the transient world whatsoever. Yama:Based on all of that, seek out [epiphanys] thathold [truth] within them Yoshikawa:Depending on keywords to create an answer, find epiphanys with truths in them, is it......What all this means is that you can choose multiple "Keywords" that the game shows you. There is "Deduction bank" where you can store up to 5 keywords. When you go to the Deduction bank you can press "deduce" and the game will create ideas that you can use to answer the questions the game imposes on you. Now the game shows us what keywords we can pick from the same passages; In the corner of the room was a man's corpse. He expired face down. There are various traces on the head that look like blunt trauma, the blood flowing from the wounds painted the white linoleum* floor red. With there being various blows to the head, it's imporbable to think that they were self-inflicted. Next to the body was a door, on the middle of the door was a 180 centimeter high, and 20 centimeter wide glass slit* "What is this door?" Asks the detective to the library staff. "That door leads to one of the library rooms. It can be entered from the reading floor, but it can also be entered from here as well for convinience. Because there is no video or CD library in this particular room" Looking through the door slit, large shelves of video tapes and CDs can be seen lined up. The detective through the slit looks around the library room on the other side, he tilts his head. "...Just what was he trying to point to...." For whatever reason, the victim's right index finger was pressing against the glass slit Almost as if trying to point to something on the other side of the slit, or maybe trying to write some- thing down The next thing that drew the detective's eyes, was the double door windows showing the outside scenery. There was a rice field stretching out, 10 meters in front are train tracks Maybe, one of the passengers saw the crime through the window?.... He thought, but this is the sixth floor It may be best not to keep hopes up for that. Under the window are a few drops of blood The victim was attacked by the window, and fell when heading toward to the library room door, he though. Later, an autopsy by medical officer* was carried out, the time of death was presumed to be between 1PM to 2PM. The only one using the audiovisaul room at that time was only the victim himself, there were two people who used the neighboring library room. One was a man named Kuroki. He was using the library room that was next to the murder scene from 12:2oAM to 1:20PM for one hour It seems he was reading a book the whole time. The detective first invites Kuroki into the library room and asked. "Whileyou were in here did you happen to hear anything suspicous from the other room?" "Can't tell. Seeing as how I was too concentrated on reading ." incidentally the book he was reading were 3 thick volumes of Shounen manga He intended to get through all of them, but he felt too cold, turned off the airconditioner, and left the room, he says. The other one is a man named Shirai. He used the library room from 1:40PM to 2:00PM for exactly 20 minutes "I was recording a train video. This place is good for recording trains. In terms of angle." He said while carefully showing off the heavy looking digital camera When the data was confirmed in order to be sure, a video of trains coming and going was recorded for around 20 minutes was stored There were no suspicous sounds or images shown, however for a couple of seconds in the start, a sweaty Shirai is shown opening the window "did you turn off the airconditioner?" "Obviously. I wouldn't be able to handle having an annoyingky loud airconditioner cutting off the sounds of my trains running. Certainly, even with the windows closed it's still closed the air conditioner's radiator can be heard It would probobly be heard even more if the windows were open. After letting Shirai go, the detective is left in the library room alone, he turns looking around the area. There is no window on the door thats facing the reading floor connecting this room, so the state of the room can't be known from outside. Either Kuroki or Shirai could have carried out the crime without anyone's sight being able to reach them, although..... "Hm?" It was then that the detective found an unexpected discovery. It was something that was definitely not there when inspecting the body. "I see... So it's him." There the culprit's name was clearly lingering. You guys tell me which keywords which are in bold to combine and I'll post what happens. juicedup fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Apr 19, 2017 |
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I'm interested in a murder mystery game that I've never heard about. And I have some free time, so I could help with proofreading your updates. As for the keywords, I think or maybe trying to write something down and There the culprit's name was clearly lingering connect. I also think turned off the air conditioner, and left the room, he says and in the start, a sweaty Shirai is shown opening the window is significant because if Shirai had turned off the air conditioning when he did, then Kuroki couldn't have turned it off like he claimed. Clearly the culprit is lying.
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Can we first clear up a little inconsistent translation issue?quote:"did you turn off the airconditioner?" quote:
italics mine. on that note - I'm cool with most of Mraagvpeine's keywords, but I'm more thinking about : right index finger was pressing against the glass slit Looking through the door slit, large shelves of video tapes and CDs can be seen lined up trying to point to something heavy looking digital camera I'm on to you, Shirai
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Mraagvpeine posted:I'm interested in a murder mystery game that I've never heard about. And I have some free time, so I could help with proofreading your updates. As for the keywords, I think or maybe trying to write something down and There the culprit's name was clearly lingering connect. I also think turned off the air conditioner, and left the room, he says and in the start, a sweaty Shirai is shown opening the window is significant because if Shirai had turned off the air conditioning when he did, then Kuroki couldn't have turned it off like he claimed. Clearly the culprit is lying. Exercu posted:Can we first clear up a little inconsistent translation issue?   Unfortunately both deductions bring up "could not deduce" Actually I'm not sure of a good way to translate 推理不可 iproper deduction? Mraagvpeine Has the right idea though. It's my fault for not explaining the game mechanics correctly. Well this is practice for all of us including me. Anyways, first you need to let the game know you're raising a question. There's actually two menus, a word bank menu, and a "Mystery" menu. The mystery menu is added to when a keyword is deduced and "raises a question. I should have mentioned this in the LP, sorry.  I took the liberty of raising the question for you guys.  I put the keywords "Turned the air conditioner off and left the room" and also "even with the windows closed the air conditioner's radiator can be heard " (Thanks for pointing out the error, Exercu) Only the closed window keyword reacts and creates this mystery.  And now you can add this mystery into the wordbank or "deduction slot" and combine it with other keywords. I'm still not 100% sure myself on how the mechanics of this game work to be honest. It's a very unique way of answering questions. It dosen't just let you jump to conclusions. juicedup fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Apr 19, 2017 |
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I combined the mystery with the other keywords that were requested and got this. 
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Will combining the rooms being different temperature with the glass slit reveal that there would have been condensation on the glass?
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Explosions posted:Will combining the rooms being different temperature with the glass slit reveal that there would have been condensation on the glass? First you need one other mystery to be created   Then we combine that with something else to make this   Now then with this information the following question can be answered.
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 I put cloudy glass as the answer to the question of "where and what state was the place where the name was found"  I put Kuroki as the answer to the culprit. Before you submit your results the game makes you save, so your rank goes down if you get it wrong. Way to make your players feel like poo poo, game. Then a dramatic little cutscene happens to make you feel like your making a big desicion.  He says "Verification begin" The cutscene actually makes you feel tense later on, when the game gets harder. Yoshikawa: I've soved it Yama: Let's here it. Yoshikawa: Before that, I want to confirm something about the question of the "Tattva" Yoshikawa: This was the question Yoshikawa: "The detective at a certain place discovered the culprit's name remaining" Yoshikawa: "Show with one "epiphany" what "place" and what "Condition" it was in" Yama: That's right. Yama: In order to show that, a concrete epiphany is necessary. Yama: All the "Akasha" you will face from now on will be similar. Yama: There is always an exact matching epiphany to answer the "tattva" Yama: You found that answer didn't you? Yoshikawa: It's this. Yoshikawa: The place the "tattva" asks is the door glass Yoshikawa: And the state, was clouded Yama: How does the door glass being cloudy prove anything? Yoshikawa: The audiovisual room which had the broken AC, was hot the whole time Yoshikawa: If the library room next door was in a cool state, then the door glass in the audiovisual room would get cloudy due to condensation Yoshikawa: if the glass is cloudy you would be able to write on it. Yoshikawa: The reason for the victim's finger pressed up against the glass, is because he left a dying message there Yama: I see.... Yama: So the victime left a dying message because the glass was cloudy Yama: however, there wasn't any dying message when the detective was investigatin the scene. Yoshikawa: That's because there was no difference in temerature at the time Yoshikawa: Shirai did not turn on the AC Yoshikawa: That's apparent by the video he recorded Yoshikawa: After Shirai used the room and left, both the library and audiovisual room were in a hot state. Yoshikawa: It's known that both of the rooms didn't have a temerature difference by the actions the investigating detective took Yoshikawa: The fact that the detective looked through the glass into the library room means... Yoshikawa: It means the glass was not cloudy. Yoshikawa: Of course the dying message dissapeared as well Yoshikawa: But, afterwards, when the detective was questioning Kuroki and Shirai.... Yoshikawa: The library room's AC was on Yoshikawa: He then finally noticed the message show up once again Yoshikawa: The culprit is.... KurokiIt can't be anyone else. Yama: Kieeee!Brilliant! Yama: Perfectly correct! Yama: I would expect no less from some regarded as a genius like you Yama: You are using that new power well in union with your deduction ability Yama: However, the real thing won't be an easy little game of clue Yama: When you fail at solving the mystery, you will have to go back to assembling the tattva from square one Yama: The tattva's contents will change here and there everytime you go through solutions Yama: Get it wrong, think it over, get it wrong again....You'll have to rinse and repeat. Yama: That's where fast talk mode has been prepared for solution compiling Yama: if you hold circle you will be able to fast foward conversations(he says a tounge twister which you skip throuh) Yama: Let me tell you some tips for solving mysteries Yama: first of all read through the "Akasha" thoughroly this is fundamental Yama: Then, try to gather as much "mysteries" as you can Yama: Deduce keywords with each other and mysteries will come popping out Yama: Once you have enought, carefuly look through those mysteries Yama: Then, when you think you've got gold, begin to deduce mysteries + keywords (Thanks for letting us know the basics after the turorial, game) Yama: It'll get easier to do through experience Yama: Read thoughroly, make as many mysteries, then wring them out by looking through them all Yama: By doing that, you'll feel that nice sensation when a light bulb pops over your head Yoshikawa: I undersand(He says to use tags and other convenient functions, explains controls, then Yoshikawa mentions Yama messed up the tounge twister when fast talking yada yada, bringing up the use of backlog meaning you can see past sentences,)  verification complete And we are done with the practice chapter. Thank you all who decided to join the ride. We've only just learnt how to play, it's going to be fun solving these with everyone, I've only played the first chapter so everything after the next update will be new ground for me as well The next update should be up around late Monday, It's a bit of longish story. I can't afford SA platinum account, so whoever wants to be my proofreader send me a PM.
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Unfortunately you need platinum to both send and receive PMs. Would it be okay if I post the corrections in the thread?
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 Now the game lets us chose from 5 different stories. I'm going to go ahead and start in chronological order.  Takemaru Abiko is most notably known for writing "Night of The Sickle Weasel" or "Banshee's Last Cry" as it's known in the west. And by figure they mean anime figure, this is a Japanese game after all, we have to give the Otakus that read this something to motivate them to solve the mystery, right? We immediately start in the middle of a conversation with Yama. Music:https://clyp.it/haypnhqs Yama: There are many humans who commit crimes Yama: Yama: I'm sure as a prosecutor you know that well. Yama: The damned must be punished Yama: Yama: Judgment is a necessary burden, especially for sinful wandering souls. Yama: All the books here are "Akasha" Yama: They record all the events in your world Yoshikawa: Everything....? Yama: Yes everything. Yama: Since long ago to the present, records for all of humanity Yoshikawa: Are they written by you? Yama: No. Yama: I don't know who's writing them. Yama: I just fulfill my duty, going by the "Akasha" Yama: The duty of deciding the fate of human souls that is Yoshikawa: ...And you're making me help with that? Yama: I don't got enough handsThere's just too many humans causing crimes Yama: Even now a small crime occurred and was recorded into "Akasha"... Yoshikawa I feel like there wouldn't be much of a difference with just one more person Yama: This happened more than 1200 years ago, but there was a man named Onono Takamura Yama: He helped me bestow judgement down here Yama: Quite the capable man he was Yama: With a certain method he solved cases speedily for me. Yama: It is this Yoshikawa ...?(Then this happens)  Yama: That's probably a police man Yama: Also Yama: The other one seems to be a suspect for this case... Yama: With this people related to the case are summoned, and together you will solve the mystery. Yama: They say more heads are better than one, so this should lead to good results. Yama: The reason I'm depending on a human like you is because of this. Yama: Everyone gets scared of me and we can't even have a conversation Yama:When the mystery is solved those two will get sent back Yama: Until then I will go to the corner and read another "Akasha" Yama: Well then, do your best Yoshikawa:...Music https://clyp.it/mprybeec  Tsukasa Huh?What is this... place?  Marunouchi: Where am I?Who are you? Yoshikawa: Are you a policeman? Marunouchi: Eh? Yeah that's right, I'm Marunouchi Yoshikawa: Is that girl there a suspect? Marunouchi: Yeah Marunouchi: Amano Tsukasa: A suspect in a robbery case. Tsukasa: Suspect? I haven't stolen anything! Marunouchi: Hey, how do you know that? Yoshikawa The robbery case is still under investigation, right? Marunouchi: That's right This one is actually a peculiar case  Marunouchi: Including her, everyone seems innocent, yet suspicious at the same time... Tsukasa So I AM being suspected! Tsukasa: I haven't done anything! Tsukasa: I'm going home okay!...  Tsukasa: What is this place? Yoshikawa ...I will explain(Cut to black) Music:https://clyp.it/haypnhqs Yoshikawa ...That's about it Marunouchi: hmmm It's hard to believe... Marunouchi: That thing reading a book in the corner is the ruler of the underworld, Yama... Marunouchi: Hard to believe.... Tsukasa: Anyways, that book is about the case isn't it? Yoshikawa It seems so Tsukasa: Mr.Yoshikawa, if you solve it Yoshikawa: I have to read it first... Tsukasa If you don't solve the mystery we won't get to go back, right? Tsukasa: I seriously haven't stolen anything! Tsukasa: Please find the real culprit! Tsukasa: I will help as much as I can! Please! Yoshikawa: (...Looks like I don't have a choice..)(Now begins the first chapter of this Akasha The game doesn't show the keywords at first you have to read it without keywords first, but I will be showing them in order to save time and space The first two pages don't have a background) Music https://youtu.be/GCi986FY3hI  Upon hearing robbery, he assumed it would be another case related to a series of frequent cat burglaries that have been occurring; it seems the circumstances are different, and Marunouchi was perplexed. He stopped and looked up at an old storage house built like it could withstand decades. It doesn't look all that large, but it's still sturdy, and it does not look easy to break into. Many forensic workers retrieving samples can be seen from the open doors.  "Detective! Is this really ok? If they break anything in my collection I will be demanding compensation. Ah-That powder for taking fingerprints will come off later right? Said the man next to Marunouchi peeking inside nervously. He is the victim who met the fate of robbery, Miyamoto Manabu. Around his 40s, he has neither employment nor relationship and with his parent's money is amassing some sort of "collection"[/b]. He looks like he does not exercise and only eats high calorie food, fat and greasy; even though it's winter sweat flows from him like a waterfall. (Easy on the fat-shaming, it's bad for business) That's right, inside the storage house it looked as if one-- no two-- three shops from Akihabara moved in there. Video players, Laser discs, DVDs, and a plasma TV for viewing plus a speaker system all in the middle, 3 meters of shelves line 3 of the walls, full of things like bishoujou figures and otaku goods lined up in glass cases like works of art. He thought it was mostly some sort of anime characters, but they were also in appearances one wouldn't let kids see, it seems the forensic workers could not help but snicker. "Don't worry. Crime scenes with valuable antiques and paintings are common. Those guys are professionals." "But they probobly think these things are just toys, don't they?-- Aaah! Don't touch Azusa-chan with those dirty hands!" Miyamoto who looks like he's about to leap inside is held back by Marunouchi as he says, "It's okay. You want the culprit caught and your stuff back right? Then please cooperate"  They enter the lobby, behind a folding scree with a picture of a dragon and tiger was a reception area. For some reason only that part had a carpet laid out, with a western style sofa set placed there. As soon as they entered the reception area Miyamoto screamed. "It's them! One of them stole it! Please search their homes!" The 4 become startled and look over to Marunouchi and Miyamoto. 3 of them have the same atmosphere as Miyamoto, but one of them stood out a little from this place, it was a young woman. "Miyamoto, that ain't it. We couldn't have stolen it, that's what I've kept telling you over and over" A long and thin man in his mid 20s stood up and said with a kansai accent. "The culprit stole that and nothing else. Besides ,All the people who knew that was there are here. Or could it be that somebody told someone that that was in there?" The 4 of them look at each other uncomfortably, none of them say a word. The tall man sits back down with a dissatisfied look. "by that, you mean the stolen figure don't you? I know it's very valuable, but please tell me further details" "It's a figure of Hiroto Yamagishi" Miyamoto said with both a look of anger and pride. How dexterous of him. "Hiroto Yamagishi.... Is that a male figure?" Miyamoto widened his eyes as if he couldn't believe and looked back at him. "Hiroto Yamagishi. You don't know?" "Is it some sort of anime character? I don't know." "You don't know the world's Hiroto Yamagishi. Give me a break." Miyamoto gives a scoff, when looking at everyone else they too have the same expression. A university student looking man with round border-less glasses begins talking. "U-Um you see, Hiroto Yamagishi is a product which sells for 20 million dollars in the great Sazabiizu auction. Japan's figures have already been proven by the world to be elegant pieces of art, they are made by talented artists and sculptors." "That's right. Saying you don't know of Hiroto Yamagishi and being Japanese is like the same level of embarrassment of not knowing Utamaro" Said Miyamoto happily. Other than the details, his way of talking and over exaggerated expression was surprising. Could this way of talking popular among the otakus? However, it feels like there was news of that. "I see. Does that mean figures made by the same person had the same high value? Would they be 5 million 10 million dollars?" Marunouchi says so in an ill tempered manner, which causes Miyamoto to hesitate. "No, well... Not all figures get to that value. When I bought it, it was around 1 million, but right now products of the same time won't go bellow 3 million. Actually they don't even show up in auctions very much, they are things you can't buy with any amount of money. Even I wouldn't give it up for 3 or 4 million." Looking at the 4 others, none of them are disputing, it seems the value isn't exaggerate. After hearing that it's actually 3 million instead of 20 million is a bit of a relief. The degree of the value of theft is not something to take lightly, the detective himself was human after all, the more money on the line would make anyone nervous.  "Pardon me. I forgot to introduce myself. My name is Marunouchi. You are all friends of Miyamoto but what brings you all here?" They all begin talking as the testimonies are being collected. Including Miyamoto all of them became friends through internet anime goods stores, every week on Saturday where they show their own treasures with each other, to boast together. This afternoon they gathered together, right at 2:00PM where the storage lock was released and they held a meeting inside. Is how it should have been, but before anyone could even sit, Miyamoto went into an uproar saying "Hiroto Yamagishi is gone!" the meeting was cancelled. everyone's person was searched, aswell as the inside of the storage house scrupulously of course the figure was not found, the police were called then. "Now that you understand it all can I go home yet? I have an important meeting to get to" The oldest of the group, Oogata says while looking at his watch. Oogata is in his 50s and has a few gray spots starting to show in his ]hair which is tied back. He says he is an anime screenwriter. "This isn't a joke!...Oogata, you wanted to buy that most of all. When you knew I had no intention of selling it, that's what made you do it isn't it?" Oogata's expression changes. "-oi, cut it out already. I always thought you were a rude one but I can't take it anymore. You are a disgrace to the otaku culture, you're scum." "W-Wait, Oogata. Miyamoto is just a bit riled up because his treasure was stolen. Right?" The tall man stands up again, panicingly trying to calm them down. His name is Sakaguchi. He seems like an ordinary company employee who would have no relation to anime, at least he seems to have more common sense than the rest of the other guys. "Sakaguchi what about you. you kept eyeing that figure while drooling" "I sure as hell wasn't drooling! Stop saying bullshit!" "Sa-Sakaguchi please calm down. Miyamoto, don't call people thieves baselessly. Aren't we all friends? The one who looks like a student with round glasses is called Negishi. Although he looks like just a student, he says he's a writer. "Negishi you've been worried about not having much work recently haven't you. Could it be that you tried to sell it for a new life? --- Please give it back!" "Please cut it out. If I wanted to sell it I would have stolen something else" Out of the 4 of them one stayed silent the whole time simply watching them argue, it was Amano Tsukasa a 20 year old looking woman, She is the newest member of the group, which puts her in a suspicous state, she does not open her mouth. Miyamoto thought it wouldn't be good to fight against 3 of them, that's when he looked to Amano who sat worriedly. "Th-That's right. Everything's been safe till now until Amano came and this happened You're the most suspicious of all." He says while pointing hissausage looking finger. "M-Me? That's crazy-"  Marunouchi gets a bit farther from the discussion that's continuing and observes, when before long his subordinate Aoki who came from the storage to give a report. The forensic workers have came up with the prints they retrieved, They all belong to Miyamoto Manabu Although the storage house looks old it is well built, and there is no point of entry for a human to enter other than the door in front. The storage is locked by a high tech Finland made strong padlock and it is impossible to open by lockpick even by pros, there are no traces of such an attempt either. It is impossible to dismantle the metal fixtures as well, with no traces of attempts aswell. Same with the hinge on the door aswell. The three other walls have an opening for light three meters high, It's a lattice door opening with no way for a person to go through. However they all have shelves to the bottom aswell as having a stepladder in the storage house, it's not impossible for someone to climb on it and and throw the figure out of the storage house that's what Aoki suggested. Marunouchi returns to the reception area, when he is surprised to see them all looking away from each other and quiet. "I'd like to talk with you all one by one, can I have a room be arranged?" (Here is a diagram of the storage shed)  (I'll continue the rest in a later update) Mraagvpeine posted:Unfortunately you need platinum to both send and receive PMs. Would it be okay if I post the corrections in the thread? Please go ahead! juicedup fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Apr 27, 2017 |
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Okay, I went through the most recent update and here are the corrections I made. If you want an explanation for any of them, I'll try to explain. I'll go back to do the previous updates another time, and I'll wait until all information is revealed before doing any guesses.quote:Yama: I'm sure as a prosecutor you know that well. Mraagvpeine fucked around with this message at 07:11 on Apr 26, 2017 |
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After we finish with the first chapter we get interuppted with dialouge Yoshikawa: Hoo Yoshikawa: Let's take a break here Tsukasa: ... Yoshikawa:Hm? What's wrong? Tsukasa: that book... Really is written about what happened... Yoshikawa: Isn't that what I explained earlier? Tsukasa: Well... Tsukasa: Saying there's a book that's written about the case out of nowhere... Tsukasa: Honestly, it's all a bit unblealivable (getting summoned to another dimmension is fine by me, though) Yoshikawa: Yeah, you're right. Yoshikawa: I'm actually having my doubts as to weather or not these cases happened.... Yoshikawa: But if a suspect themselves says so, then this akasha must be the real thing Tsukasa: I wish the book would just tell us the suspect Yoshikawa: Tell it to monster mash over there Marunouchi: So then, have you figured out the culprit? Yoshikawa: No. Yoshikawa: Of course, the culprit can't be specified with only this much information. Yoshikawa: We've gotten information about the characters but.... Marunouchi: Hm. Well, go ahead and say their names(The game gives you a multiple choice question on who the characters are of course they mess with the kanji to make the player feel as stupid as possible) Yoshikawa: Miyamoto Manabu. Ooda. Sakaguchi. Negishi. Amano Tsukasa. Those five people. Marunouchi: Right Marunouchi: Knowing the names of the parties concerned is the basics of investigating Yoshikawa: Unemployed Miyamoto, Anime screenwriter Ooda, company employee Sakaguchi, Writer Negishi, and Amano Tuskasa Yoshikawa: When all five of them were about to hold their meeting, that's when the figure was found gone Yoshikawa: The figure was made by Hiroto Yamagishi a sculpter Yoshikawa: Who's valude dosen't go under 3million Yen.... Tsukasa: 3 million huh... Tsukasa: With that much money you could use it on many things, not just a figure... Marunouchi: Tsukasa, is that your way of confessing to the crime? Tsukasa: Wha-What crime?! Marunouchi: You want money so you stole the figure... That's a good enough motive, no? Tsukasa: Wrong! I was just saying what I think... Yoshikawa ...If you're gonna fight do it somewhere else Yoshikawa I'm reading the restChapter 2 Questioning  The one who was called first was of course Miyamoto. "When was the last time you confirmed you had the figure?" "Last week. The time of the meeting" "Those four were in there weren't they?" "That's right" "The lock was not taken off other than that time, was it?" "Yeah" "Well then is it possible the figure could have been gone before you locked the storeage house last week?" "...What do you mean?" "Could someone have taken the figure behind your back in the last meeting, is what I mean." "That isn't possible. I search everyone's belongings when leaving the storage house" I wouldn't assouciate with someone who has such doubt amongst others, Marunouchi thought to himself. "...There is a light fixture opening on top of the shelves. Is it possible for someone to throw it outside without you noticing? "From there? Everyone would notice someone who's using the stepladder in the same room!" "...Maybe they aimed carefully" Miyamoto immagined that very act, and trembled. "Please stop! She would break if they did that. Moreover the figure was in a glass case. What would they do with the case?" "I see. I understand. If that's the case then the only thinkable posibility is that the culprit went in through the door to steal it. Though I know you're using a strong lock."  Miyamoto chuckles proudly. "Yes. But not just any lock, It's a superior lock that's used in nuclear and military facilities all over the world. It's evenUnbreakable and unpickable. Seeing as how it's demand so much I went through trouble for obtaining it. Even the most express order takes ten days deliver. The price is around $1000, but it's worth it." Even though a burglar got through, Murunouchi whispered in his mind. Miyamoto's face looks as if he thought the same thing as well. "When did you start using it?" "The week before last...No maybe the one before. Before I was using one that they sell at a home center, but I realized it's not safe. When I knew there was a better one I ordered it right away." "How many keys for it are there?" "Three keys. It's impossible for normal locksmiths to duplicate aswell. You need to order from the maker themselves for the duplicate. Of course it's impossible for people other than me to order it aswell, other than the one I normally use the other two are locked in a strong safe. I don't even let my family get in there" "You said you use one normally. Is that-" "Miyamoto quietly pulls a chain from his sweater. There was a key attatched to the end of it. "Do you always have it like that?" "Yeah. Though I take it off when sleeping" "You don't let your friends touch the keys, do you?" "Right" "-That means no one should be able to steal the figure. Except yourself." Miyamoto turned into a serious temper. "Don't joke with me! Why would I steal my own figure and cause all this trouble!" "Maybe you had insurance" "Insurance? Oh. If only I put insurance on it... drat it" It looks like he didn't. Although it's possible he's playing a ruse. Or maybe the culprit hid it somewhere nearby , A careful investigation around the perimiter is necessary. juicedup fucked around with this message at 08:07 on Apr 30, 2017 |
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 Amano Tsukasa was called in next, because it's been a while since talking with someone relatively normal. (Are they trying to piss the otakus off?) Because she joined in such a short time when the case occured, that makes her a prominent suspect. "It's only been recent since you've started coming here. How did you all become acquainted?" She fidgets slightly, but soon opened up to confessing. "...Actually I don't have any interest in anime or figures. So naturally I wouldn't steal an erotic figure like that" (That's irrefutable evidence if I've ever heard it) "Huh? What do you mean?" "Please don't tell them. -I'm actually an amature cameraman(female), and a magazine editorial that's letting me work for them told me they need me for "The Sights of Gross Otaku Rooms" column, and made me find pictures for those gross rooms. Why me? (Just in case some Otaku are still reading, we need to make they really get insulted) Isn't that impossible. But they said if I find the right room and submit photos they will use them, so I pretended to be interested and snuck into this meeting, so yeah." It seemed like she wasn't used to those kinds of people, however her act lying in order to get in is suspicious. it would be necessary to get in contact with the editorial for a testimony. "The figure that was stolen was of significant value among even Miyamoto's collection, you know that, right?" "I guess... it is. I don't really get it, when I tried to talk with everyone they would always end up bringing THAT up. All I see is just a lewd big tited figure" "Did everyone else seem to want it?" "I think so. -Anyways I have absolutely no reason to steal it. Please understand that" "I don't think so. Even if you having no interest in the figure is true, you could have stolen it for the money, or you could have broken it and tried to hide it. You did know it was a valuable object didn't you?" "That's true but.... even if I was the culprit I wouldn't come back again nonchalantly" "Certainly. However, they could have thought that not showing up all of a sudden would for sure attract eyes of suspicion. Especially for someone who started coming only last week, not showing up today would cause greater suspicon." Marunouchi didn't think of her as the culprit at first, but with each argument he felt as if that may be the truth more and more. "E-Easier said than done, that storage house is locked by a crazy strong lock. Maybe someone else had a chance to take a spare key, I can't do it. Please ask someone else" -Spare key. Certainly the other members can obtain it easier than Amano. Marunouchi thinks that, and let's Amano go.  The one who was called next was Ooda who wanted to go home. "Please, I beg you, let's get this over with already. I mean you guys don't want to waste your time with stupid otakus do you?" "I don't think whatsoever, but I will do my best to not take much time, please co-operate. -Now about the padlock on Miyamoto's storage house..." "Yeah. That ridiculously huge padlock that he said something like even a chainsaw won't cut through it, it's stupid. Just cause the lock won't break doesn't mean the metal fixture the lock is hanging from can't be broken. If they wanted to leave it perfect then they could just replace the door or the fixture" In terms of security that's true, however in this case There are no traces of breakage so it's unrelated. "What about it being a more simple one before" "That was right about 3 weeks ago. Right when Hiroto Yamagishi's creations rose in price altogether is when he switched, you could say it cause for anxiety. Before opening the door he kept flaunting about how much it was, or how it's used in nuclear reactors and such" "Did you ever have a chance to touch the key?" "No way! He kept it around his neck preciously. No one can get their hands on it. Even if you could it would be covered in his grease, so who would want to" He gladly said with a laugh. Of course they did not open the door, rather they could have infiltrated from somewhere else, Marunouchi thought to himself.
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 The next one was Negishi the writer. Apparently he's in his thirties but he looks as if he's in his twenties. (Thanks for the info...?) As soon as Negishi sat down he immediately started spitting out words that sound like excuses. "In sincerity, I have absolutely no fixation on anime merchandise. The only reason I come to these gatherings is for the merit of being able to watch videos I don't happen to own." "...But Miyamoto said so aswell, you know the figure would sell for a large sum of money don't you?" "Please don't take that seriously! If I were to sell it, it would be among the same collector's circle. Invariably I would get found out right away. Sure, there are ways to sell overseas, but using net auctions would reveal me aswell. Without connections it's impossible. Someone like Ooda, who seems to go overseas frequently probably could." The same logic of however more famous an art piece is the more harder it is to resell must apply. "About that padlock..." "Ah, about that. After being away once from the meeting, I saw it attached when I came back. I was shocked when I saw it. It seems everyone else knew about it, and they just scoffed." It seems Negishi was not there for the unveiling of the padlock. "Now about the key hanging from Miyamoto's neck, could anyone have been able to get a hold of it during the three weeks? "Nah, that's impossible. At least from what I saw, he never once takes that off" "The last one Marunouchi called was Sakaguchi. He asked him the same questions. "The key? That's dang impossible. It's almost like he got it into his head that one of us were going to steal it, what an awful attitude, but I guess he wasn't too far off now that this happened" Chapter 3 Reenactment  Feeling as if he hit a dead end with the padlock. He feels the need to investigate the scene once more, and brings everyone to the storage house. Forensic evidence has already been retrieved and the results have been reported. "Can I have you all re enact the way everyone goes through with the meeting usually" They group up behind Miyamoto and get close to the storage. It seems one of the workers had already closed the door. On the metal fixture, a lock that you can tell is strong just by looking at it is hanging while in an open state. Marunouchi goes to grab it and locks it assuredly. From looking at the fixture, or the hinge on the door there are no abnormalities that can be seen. "Please, as usuall." After that Miyamoto takes out the chain, sticks it in the lock and turns it. With a tight loud click the lock opens. Miyamoto opens the door and hangs the opened lock on the fixture, then opens the inward door and enters, then turns on a light switch and the the room lights in a flash. Ooda, Amano, Sakaguchi and Negishi follow in that order. "Please hold on. There is no designated entry order is there?" "Miyamoto always enters first, but other than that there is no particular order" Is what Negishi who was last in line answered. "What was today's order like?" All five take a while to think. "Last week and this week I was second to last, and just like now Negishi was farthest last." Said Amano nervously. "...It does feel like that was the case" Said Negishi.  The actual order then was, Ooda, Sakaguchi, Amano, Negishi is what everyone remembers. They are then told to enter and to sit like they did before. Then Miyamoto grabs the handles of the inside part of the outer door and pulls it in closing it, and also closing the inner doors aswell. "And then?" "Without even having time to relax, Miyamoto stood and screamed, 'It's gone! Hiroto Yamagishi is gone!'" Said Negishi. The figure that was stolen was in a shelf that was on the side where Miyamoto sits, about head hight when standing. It would definitly be impossible for someone to stealthfuly go infront andeither hide the figure or throw it through the light window. Even so the light openings are closed at this time. "If that's the case then there's no doubt, it was not gone in this particular meeting after all. Consider the following. The culprit had already stolen the figure in last week's meeting." "I told you, I saw that it was still here before I left!" Said Miyamoto angrily. "Please listen to the rest. They steal the figure, then they could have placed something else instead. Maybe a fake, a picture. As well as it being able to disapear automatically. Maybe it was made of ice, or maybe something that could burn." "You're saying even all the traces disapeared? That's dang impossible. You see, we can't leave until Miyamoto inspects our person. it ain't possible to steal it during the time of the meeting Said Sakaguchi with cynically grin. (I love Sakaguchi's Osakan accent mixed with polite speech I can't do it justice with my translation, his way of speech is beatifuly written) If it wasn't from this meeting, or the one before, that means it could only have been stolen in between that time. However the keys are kept tightly secure, and no one can get to them. Just what is it? "...Where is the bathroom?" "The bathroom is in the main building but, when going to the bathroom it's empty handed and pockets are inspected." "Did anyone go to the bathroom in the last meeting?" "Because it's a bother everyone is to go before the meeting starts. Because Amano was new she had to go to the bathroom in the middle of the meeting and was probobly a bit confused" Negishi says toward Amano and she nods. "It was a surprise, but of course I properly took the inspection, you wouldn't even be able to get away with even a card" (wow) "Even though she a girl she gets body searched? Did you search to her underwear?" (asking the real questions) "I just made her turn her pockets inside out and stuff like that. Because I don't think there's a chance to hide anything under clothes Said Miyamoto uncofertably. Amano looks as if she remembered something and says, "Someone else went to the bathroom aswell. It was...Ooda-san" Ooda in a flurried mood says, "It's been getting a bit frequent these days. But of course I took the inspection. Didn't I?" Calling to Miyamoto Miyamoto reluctantly nods. "No matter the case it was stolen after that! Yesterday, the day before yesterday, or even a few days before, but it had to be from someone here! Who!? Please give it back to me!" "...But only you can open the pad lock, and it seems there are no other enterances" Everyone stares at Miyamoto with a suspecting gaze. "What's with that stare? Hiroto Yamagishi was seriously stolen! Why would I lie about that!" As long as he didn't insure it, there would be no reason for him to lie. However from the suspects that are here, it dosen't seem like any of them could have stolen it within this one week's time. Just what is the meaning of this...? (That's it, after reading all the chapters Yoshikawa talks with Tsukasa and Marunouchi in Meikai to re affirm some details) Here's a diagram just in case anyone cares  Unfortunately I already know the solution, since I played this before I decided to LP it, unfortunately I can't join in on the discussion just yet, I'm really looking foward to the next one book when I don't even know the solution. juicedup fucked around with this message at 03:28 on May 2, 2017 |
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 From these keywords we get a reaction from "Even the most express order", when we press the deduce button. We get this mystery  And then the characters chime in with their opinion  Yoshiwaka:Ten days to deliver... In other words it means you can have it within ten days Tsukasa: That means I can buy it too right? Maybe I should but it for security.... Yoshikawa: That's if you plan on buying something close to $1000, don't let me stop you though... Tsukasa: Thoughsand...!? Tsukasa: Ah but if I spend all my savings I won't have to worry about theft anymore Yoshikawa: Other than Miyamoto, who else could have the money to order that lock...?I combine the new mystery with the being away once from the meeting, I saw it attached when I came back Keyword  They combine to form this epiphany   Yoshikawa: The lowest amount of time it takes to obtain the lock is ten days... Yoshikawa: Which means if they knew about the lock 2 weaks ago, they could have ordered it right away Tsukasa: But why would they? Even if you have the same one, it wouldn't help... Yoshikawa: How the same lock relates to this case may be important.
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I had this theory that I was going to post, but it got lost when my computer restarted and then I forgot this thread for a while  . Basically it was going to be about taking a picture of the key and using a 3D printer to make a duplicate key, but then I realized that it would implicate Tsukasa since she has a camera.
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Mraagvpeine posted:I had this theory that I was going to post, but it got lost when my computer restarted and then I forgot this thread for a while That's a really crazy solution, I like it. Unfortunately the actual solution is a bit... Anticlimactic. I think I'll finish this case tonight and start on the next book tomorrow. juicedup fucked around with this message at 09:11 on May 25, 2017 |
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I'm suspecting Ooda. The most impatient one to get the investigation put aside is usually the guilty one.
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When you deduce the keyword "The lock was hanging on the metal fixture" you get a mystery: Mystery details: When was the lock changed? When the meeting is being held, the lock is hanging on the outer door by the metal fixture. Basically, it is not impossible for someone to replace it with another. If the culprit did replace it, then when? Then a dialog starts up : anyone could have access to the lock during the meeting: Since it was just hanging on the outer door: If the culprit did something what was it...?When you combine the mystery of "Chance to obtain the same lock as Miyamoto's" with the keyword "The week before last...No maybe the one before" you get the same epiphany of being able to obtain the lock, but it's three weeks ago instead. When you deduce these two keywords  Then you get this mystery  Then the characters start talking : This is an important mystery to this case. : If they can't do anyting about the lock they wouldn't be able to get in, and the door is the only possible entrance.: It being impossible to carry out during the meeting aswell, leads me to bealive no one stole it.: In that kind of situation, When and from where did they steal it...?When you combine that mystery just now with another keyword  You get three different versions of this epiphany  One for after,during,before. : The only way to take out the figure from the storage is through the door or light fixture.: But just how did they do it?: In order to find out, we need to think differentlyGood talk Anyways with this information you should be able to answer these questions.   The last question is the culprit's name
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Yoshikawa:: The victim for this case is Miyamoto Manabu (Victim is a bit much) Yoshikawa:: He was the victim of the burglary of a figure he kept in his house's storageYoshikawa:: When he was about to hold a meeting in his storage, like he does every week, when he entered that's when he noticed the figure was gone.Yoshikawa:: Althought there is an opening for light, it is a lattice door window, meaning the only way to enter the storage is through the front doorYoshikawa: However, the door has a strong lock, no one except Miyamoto can open itYoshikawa: Morover, during the meeting Miyamoto conducts a search on everyone, stealing it then is an impossibilityYoshikawa: Well then, how, when, and where did the culprit manage to steal that figure?Yoshikawa:: This is the greatest mystery of the caseYoshikawa:: I would like to go through a verification of this mysteryTsukasa:: What do you mean verification...? Like, point the criminal out?Yoshikawa:: This case hides many mysteriesYoshikawa:: As I expose those mysteries one after another, you will see the sole culprit and truth(I think Yoshi dosen't have many friends) Tsukasa:: There are mysteries hidden in the case?Yoshikawa:: Yeah, let's settle this point firstYoshikawa:: From where and when did the culprit steal the figure?Then the game goes into verification mode. The answers the player submits are still not told wether they're right or wrong. Music:https://clyp.it/qpsglbzh Yoshikawa:: The only way to take the figure out from the storage house is either by the front door or light openingYoshikawa:: However there is a lattice door on the openingYoshikawa:: Meaning, that while the figure is in the glass case it can't be stolen from thereYoshikawa:: Going by that logic, The only way to take it is by going through the door itselfYoshikawa:: That's where this epiphany comes into player Yoshikawa:: Miyamoto confirmed that by the time of the last meeting the figure was intanctYoshikawa:: Also a search is conducted, making it impossible to steal it during the meeting.: This all means; the culprit stole the figure after the meeting was overTsukasa:: But the door has a strong lock on it, and there weren't any signs of tamperment, were there?Tsukasa:: And all the keys are kept secure by Miyamoto...Tsukasa:: Is it even possible to open the lock?Yoshikawa:: The figure is gone because it's possibleYoshikawa:: The lock was opened by Miyamoto last week, and the day of the crime.Yoshikawa:: It was in that interval that the culprit got away with the figureYoshikawa:: With that in mind, I will explain [/b]how the culprit opened the lock[/b] Yoshikawa:: What I want you to think about, is the key point of this case...Yoshikawa:: The lock itselfMusic:https://clyp.it/0bpwa0kj Yoshikawa: The key point in this case is the lock....Tsukasa:: I see... it does need a key Not that partYoshikawa: Remember Miyamoto's testimonyMiyamoto chuckles proudly. "Yes. But not just any lock, It's a superior lock that's used in nuclear and military facilities all over the world. It's evenUnbreakable and unpickable. Seeing as how it's demand so much I went through trouble for obtaining it. Even the most express order takes ten days deliver. The price is around $1000, but it's worth it." Even though a burglar got through, Murunouchi whispered in his mind. Miyamoto's face looks as if he thought the same thing as well. "When did you start using it?" "The week before last...No maybe the one before. Before I was using one that they sell at a home center, but I realized it's not safe. When I knew there was a better one I ordered it right away." "How many keys for it are there?" "Three keys. It's impossible for normal locksmiths to duplicate aswell. You need to order from the maker themselves for the duplicate. Of course it's impossible for people other than me to order it aswell, other than the one I normally use the other two are locked in a strong safe. I don't even let my family get in there" "You said you use one normally. Is that-" Yoshikawa: From these satements there are two important pointsYoshikawa:: First is " I went through trouble for obtaining it. Even the most express order takes ten days deliver."Yoshikawa:: Then one more, the part where he says, he didn't start using it until three weeks ago.Yoshikawa:: These two points lead us to this idea[padlock ordered three weeks ago] Yoshikawa:: If they order it right after the meeting three weeks ago, then it would have been deliverd ten days later, before the week before last's meetingYoshikawa:: Basically, there was a chance to obtain Miyamoto's lock, before last week's meeting.Tsukasa:: Two of the same lock?...This is getting confusing:Marunouchi:Marunouchi But would the same key work for both?:Marunouchi:Marunouchi Even if you have another, you wouldn't be able to open the other padlock:Marunouchi:Marunouchi Miyamoto's lock only opens with his keyYoshikawa:: Certainly, you can't open it... but you can lock it.:Marunouchi: lock it?Yoshikawa: For a normal door you need a key to both open and lock it. Yoshikawa: But with a padlock, it's only when it's attachedYoshikawa: Anyone is capable of locking it.:Marunouchi Hmm...However if you lock it, that won't open the door.Yoshikawa: You may be rightTsukasa:: It's true:Marunouchi:Marunouchi: Crying out loud... Don't say meaningless things:Marunouchi:Marunouchi: Don't tell me there actually isn't any meaning to him ordering the same lockYoshikawa:: It's not meaninglessYoshikawa:: There being two locks during the last meeting does have relation to this caseYoshikawa:: Now, think about the problem this mystery imposesYoshikawa:: If the culprit went through the door after the last meeting...Yoshikawa:: how did he open the lock
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May 26, 2017 09:57
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I will admit that I'm hopeless with mysteries like this, but I'm enjoying the story so far.
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May 26, 2017 23:58
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This one seems pretty simple. One of the people who went to the bathroom (probably Ooda) replaces the open lock with his own lock. After the group ends, Miyamoto locks up normally. The culprit later returns and unlocks his lock, steals the figure, and restores the original lock to its rightful place. There might be a few more complications, but that seems like the simplest solution. I guess the culprit would also have needed to hide his lock somewhere nearby before the session so it wouldn't be found when he was searched
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May 27, 2017 11:34
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LonelyMudkip posted:This one seems pretty simple. One of the people who went to the bathroom (probably Ooda) replaces the open lock with his own lock. After the group ends, Miyamoto locks up normally. The culprit later returns and unlocks his lock, steals the figure, and restores the original lock to its rightful place. I thought they were only searched after the meeting, and not before it.
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May 28, 2017 15:13
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Yeah they wouldn't need to search before. Owner opens Original Lock Culprit replaces the Original Lock with his Copy Lock Steals figure Shock. Horror. After search, they leave, owner locks door with Copy Lock Culprit runs away with figure Later comes back when owner is away Culprit unlocks Copy Lock and replaces it with Original Lock. Leaves
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We're now currently verifying the method the culprit used in order to enter through the door. Music:https://clyp.it/g1kdxlec Yoshikawa:: If the culprit went through the door, then there is no doubt the culprit unlocked the padlockYoshikawa:: So then, "Which lock" with "who's key" did they open it with?Tsukasa:: With who's?... Wasn't Miyamoto's lock opened with his key?Marunouchi:: Or maybe, the culprit used his own key and opened Miyamoto's lock(Why is the detective the most useless one?)  Tsukasa:: If not, then did he open his own lock with his own key?Marunouchi:: How would he open the storage door that way?Tsukasa:: I don't know that. I'm just saying what's possibleMarunouchi:: On the contrary, maybe he opened his own lock with Miyamoto's key?(Who invited him?)  Tsukasa:: For what means?Marunouchi:: How am I supposed to know? It's just a possibility Tsukasa:: Ah!! Or maybe, after the last meeting was over, the lock wasn't properly secured?(I just realized Tsukasa is the Maya of this game) Tsukasa:: Then, the culprit could enter and lock it after he leaves.Marunouchi:: They could get away with it as if nothing happened.Marunouchi:: Hmm... What do you think, Yoshikawa-kun?(Honorifics are important) Marunouchi:: Who's lock did the culprit open with who's key?(The game gives you a question here, I'm not even going to bother translating all the choices, because it's such a dumb question) I answer with: Yoshikawa:: The culprit opened his lock with his own keyTsukasa::...That's normalMarunouchi:: ...Too normal. Isn't that an ordinary thing for locks to doYoshikawa:: Yeah, they did something ordinary, and that's how the culprit entered the storageYoshikawa:: Seeing as how only Miyamoto is the only one who can open the lock he himself purchasedYoshikawa:: All three keys are kept secure by Miyamoto, and keys can't be duplicatedYoshikawa:: There is no possible way for the culprit to open Miyamoto's lockYoshikawa:: Which means, the culprit opened his own lock.Tsukasa:: I get that the culprit can open their own lock, but...Tsukasa:: How would they get in that way?Yoshikawa:: The culprit entered the storage which should have been locked by "Miyamoto's lock" by instead opening "the culprit's lock"(Yoshikawa would be the worst teacher)  Yoshikawa:: Do you understand what this means? Yoshikawa:]: Miyamoto's lock and the culprit's lock were both switched(I had to crop another sprite just because his expression is ever so slightly more serious) Tsukasa:: Eh!?Marunouchi:: They were switched!?Yoshikawa:]: That's why the culprit opened his lock with his own key, and entered the storage.Marunouchi:: H-Hold on, if they were switched, wouldn't Miyamoto notice?Marunouchi:: Didn't you say, "1 week ago, and on the day of the case, Miyamoto opened the lock"Marunouchi:: Not just opening it, 1 week go after the last meeting Miyamoto closed the lock.Marunouchi:: He should have noticed if they were switched.Yoshikawa:]: No, Miyamoto would not have noticed the switch.Marunouchi:: How do you mean?Yoshikawa:: Let me start from the beginning.Yoshikawa:: Why didn't Miyamoto notice the switch?Yoshikawa:]: Think back to the last verification resultYoshikawa:]: Three weeks ago, when the meeting was locked by the new padlock, if they ordered the same one right away...Yoshikawa:]: It wasn't until the meeting before, that they had the same type of lock and key as Miyamoto'sYoshikawa:]: Basically the culprit had a very similar lock as Miyamoto'sYoshikawa:]: Naturally, no one would notice if the same type of lock was switched out.Yoshikawa:]: Remember one last thing....Yoshikawa:]: Anyone is able to lock the padlockYoshikawa:]: Miyamoto was able to lock the padlock which was switched.Yoshikawa:]: Therefore, the meeting ends, and the padlock is locked...Yoshikawa:]: At the time Miyamoto didn't notice the locks were switched(so much exposition holy gently caress) Yoshikawa:]: Miyamoto, without knowing of the switch, locked the storage with the culprit's own lockMarunouchi:: What a planTsukasa:: I-I see...Tsukasa:: He locks it up like normal, of course he wouldn't notice at allYoshikawa:: A trick made possible only because of the padlock.Yoshikawa:: If it was just any type of door lock you wouldn't be able to switch out the lock.Marunouchi:: Which means, the person who switched out the padlocks in the last meeting is...Marunouchi:: That doesn't rule anyone out, everyone could have pulled it offYoshikawa:: No, only the one capable of switching out the locks is the culprit.Yoshikawa:: I will explain that now.Yoshikawa:: First, when exactly did the culprit switch the locks?(I'm sorry if this is taking so long, they keep going in circles. Should I cut some corners next update? I mean some people above me have already figured it out ) juicedup fucked around with this message at 10:52 on May 29, 2017 |
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May 29, 2017 10:43
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I was rereading the previous updates and I noticed you called a character two different names: Ooda and Oogata.
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May 29, 2017 17:49
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I'd say cut some corners if the dialogue is repetitive and not particularly funny. Japanese games like this tend to repeat themselves a lot.
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May 29, 2017 23:00
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Streamline away when the dialogue won't be missed.
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May 29, 2017 23:25
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Music:https://clyp.it/gskwwjlg Yoshikawa:: First, remember this Akasha article.After that Miyamoto takes out the chain, sticks it in the lock and turns it. With a tight loud click the lock opens. Miyamoto opens the door and hangs the opened lock on the fixture, then opens the inward door and enters, then turns on a light switch and the the room lights in a flash. Ooda, Amano, Sakaguchi and Negishi follow in that order. Yoshikawa:: After miyamoto unlocked it, he left it hanging on the hinge of the outer doorYoshikawa:: Meaning, during the meeting, the lock could have been switched anytimeYoshikawa:: This truth leads us to this ideaYoshikawa:: This idea shows us at what timing the lock could be switched (Also I love the sound effects the game uses: https://clyp.it/fekqxyjl that's so noir) Yoshikawa:: The locks could only be switched when the lock was hanging on the door, after the meeting started.Yoshikawa:: Where no one is looking, using timing to get a hold of the lockYoshikawa:: When going to the bathroom, you need to leave the storage and go all the way into the house.Yoshikawa:: There's more than enough time to swtich them outMarunouchi:: But, when leaving the storage there's a body checkMarunouchi:: If they had the lock on them wouldn't they get found out?Yoshikawa:: Maybe they hid it in advanceYoshikawa:: Then, when they leave the storage, they switch their hidden lock with Miyamoto's lockMarunouchi:: Certainly... Miyamoto is always keeping watch inside the storage, but never outside.Yoshikawa:: Now, let's organize the culprit's actions[poo poo WE ALREADY KNOW] Yoshikawa:: When he switches them out he comes back to the meetingYoshikawa:: The meeting ends, Miyamoto confirms the figure is there, and locks up as usual.Yoshikawa:: Without even knowing the lock was changedYoshikawa:: Then, the culprit comes back to the storage when everyone is gone, and opens his own lockYoshikawa:: Then, steal the figure...Yoshikawa:: Just like before, he switches the locks and locks the storage.Yoshikawa:: With this, today's meeting begins, Miyamoto open's his own lock and opens the storage door...Yoshikawa:: The figure is already in the culprit's possession, without even a traceMarunouchi:: Hmm...Marunouchi:: Basically the culprit is someone who went to the bathroom in that meeting.Tsukasa:: Huh? Wait please.Tsukasa:: If they just need to switch them, don't they just need a tiny bit of time?Tsukasa:: If so, couldn't they switch them at a time other than going to the bathroom?Yoshikawa:: Sure, there are many possible times to switch the locks.Yoshikawa:: But, when specifying the culprit, taking other circumstances into account, there is only one possible time.Tsukasa:: Circumstances to specify the culprit?Yoshikawa:: Now let's move on to the last verification(I can't wait to be done with this chapter! This truly is hell if we have to help manchild Miyamoto find the bully who stole his sex doll )
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Looks like I was right. Because they get searched when they leave to go to the bathroom, the culprit can't have their lock on them when they enter the room. I'm guessing the "other circumstances" bit refers to the order in which they entered the room, because I guess that's the only other time the lock could've been switched? But because Negishi was last in line (and he can't be the culprit because he didn't know about the lock, I think? At least, I think that's what the game's going for) then the lock couldn't have been switched as they were entering. Going by narrative convention the culprit is probably Ooda because it's never the assistant character. Thanks for the LP, by the way. I really enjoy this kind of mystery game, but never actually get the chance to play them. Heck, I can hardly ever find a decent mystery game.
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May 30, 2017 10:31
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Plus, if it's just a lock, you can easily hide it in an unmentionable place. They did say they get forced to turn out pockets/etc but not strip searched. just tuck it under your armpit or something. Since I'm assuming anyone who gets a cutscene isn't part of the crime, that leaves Ooda, since he's the only other person who went to the bathroom.
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Music:https://clyp.it/v1gia0gs Yoshi: First, allow me to make the circumstance for identifying the culprit clear. Yoshi: There are two conditions (The game gives you a multiple choice question which I'll actually translate because it does take some thinking this time, for once. Quiz yourself)  Yoshi: First the culprit is someone who went to the bathroom in the previous meeting and switched the locks Yoshi: Also, 3 weeks ago they attended the meeting Yoshi: The lock was replaced with the stronger one 3 weeks ago, which takes 10 days to deliver Yoshi: If they weren't at the meeting 3 weeks ago, and knew about it the next meeting... Yoshi: They would have obtained it two weeks ago on a saturday Yoshi: Basically, they wouldn't have it in time for the next meeting, 7 days later. Yoshi: The only way to have it by the meeting one weeks ago is by being at the meeting 3 weeks ago Yoshi:...Now, who is the one possible of switching locks in the last meeting? Yoshi: The only ones who went to the bathroom last meeting are; Tsukasa-kun and Ooda. Yoshi: Out of those 2, Tsukasa-kun attended for the first time last week Yoshi: For that reason she couldn't order the lock 3 weeks ago. Yoshi: There is also a possibility that they could have switched the locks when being last in entering the storage. Yoshi: However, the last one to enter was Negishi, who did not attend 3 weeks ago. Yoshi: Just like Tsukasa-kun, he couldn't have obtained the lock Yoshi: Basically...(Yoshi loves saying basically) Yoshi: The culprit is Ooda. It can't be anyone else. Kenshou loving Shuryou Music:https://clyp.it/mwiwxqac Marunouchi: Hm... Yoshikawa-kun, It seems there's no mistake in your logic Marunouchi: This is a real fib on our departments part. Marunouchi: I never though a trick like this would be hidden Marunouchi: Even so, how surprising. Marunouchi: If I had to say, this would be an ordinary break in robbery Marunouchi: But you. You were like a hawk hunting his prey, keen and determined Yoshi: Robbery is quite the crime. I can't simply let it go Tsukasa: Thank you very much. You seriously saved me Tsukasa: Could it be, Yoshikawa-san, that you had that kind of job in the real world? Tsukasa: Like an investigator, or detective. Yoshi: Not really... Well, yeah. Something like that. Tsukasa: Either way thank you. Tsukasa: Seriously, for a second I had a cold sweat when I though I was going to be chosen as the culprit... Tsukasa: Can do men like you really are a bit different!(Wha?) Marunouchi: Sorry for being a can't do man. Marunouchi: That aside, There's a glowing ring over there...What is that? Yoshi: That showed up when you two arrived... Yoshi: Maybe it's connected to the real world Marunouchi: I see. Marunouchi: I'm a bit spectical but it will bring me back, right? Marunouchi: Well then, if you'll excuse me. Marunouchi: I'm grateful. Now the case can be wrapped up. Music:https://clyp.it/eijlspce (This song is pretty nice, the notes just don't quit) Tsukasa: Yoshikawa san Yoshi: Hm?Next update will include a trailer for the next case. LonelyMudkip posted:Looks like I was right. Because they get searched when they leave to go to the bathroom, the culprit can't have their lock on them when they enter the room. I'm glad you're enjoying it. It's my pleasure to share niche as gently caress games to people who appreciate them LonelyMudkip posted:This one seems pretty simple. One of the people who went to the bathroom (probably Ooda) replaces the open lock with his own lock. After the group ends, Miyamoto locks up normally. The culprit later returns and unlocks his lock, steals the figure, and restores the original lock to its rightful place. SSNeoman posted:Yeah they wouldn't need to search before. Great detective work everyone. The next one won't be so easy. It's a locked room mystery. I'm extremely excited to get to it.
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Music:https://clyp.it/eijlspce Tsukasa: Yoshikawa sanYoshikawa: Hm? Tsukasa: Can I ask you something?Yoshikawa: What? Tsukasa: Are you going to keep doing this? This occupation.Yoshikawa:I will for a while more. Seeing as how this was only my first job so far. Tsukasa: How can I put it, you're amazing Tsukasa: You're working to help people even in death.Yoshikawa: In death...Yoshikawa: (I'm not really dead... Oh well it's probably not important to her) Tsukasa: Yoshikawa-san, I'm sure you were a good person who worked to help others. Tsukasa: That's the reason why Yama-sama gave you this jobYoshikawa:... Tsukasa: Thank you very much. Tsukasa: Well then, I have to be off too. This ends The Stolen Figure Music:https://clyp.it/3gew5ibs  Yoshikawa: Akasha, huh?  Yoshikawa: If all the events are recorded here, then that case has to be here  Music:https://clyp.it/eijlspce :Yama: You did pretty darn good.Yoshikawa: Glad to hear.Yoshikawa: What's next?:Yama: No need to hurry:Yama: You're a promising one.:Yama: You can probably solve even harder Akasha:Yama: Wait a bit until a good article pops up.Yoshikawa: I want to make sure of something.Yoshikawa: You said in Akasha, all events in the real world are written down, didn't you?:Yama: ExactlyYoshikawa: There are cases in the real world that are left unresolved and forgotten.Yoshikawa Those records aswell?:Yama: Of course even those are written down.Yoshikawa: How are the Akasha writtenYoshikawa: Are you able to find culprits of unresolved cases?:Yama: Akasha never give away the answer easily.:Yama: Even if they're determined as unresolved in your world, they're bestown the right judgment here.Yoshikawa: (That means... the truth of that case is here somewhere....) Then the credits roll, for some reason? Anyways glad to be done with that. Here is the trailer for the next chapter. It looks preaty interesting. https://youtu.be/yrXSXePJFRc
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 Keiji Takemoto has written a game called Lunacy for the Sega Saturn, I think that's the only english translated work he's written. I only looked at a tiny bit of footage of that game but it looks like something Retsuprae would make fun of... Also this writer is a bit humorous in his narration, anything that's written under the illustrations is from the narration. Anyways this akasha is tough, but interesting... Hope you enjoy it... music:https://clyp.it/haypnhqs Yama:: Jeez, I'm at a loss. Yama:: I can't do this... Yoshikawa....? Yama:: Even though we just got started... Yama:: With a hurdle this high, you can't even call it a hurdle Yama:: This one's dicey... Yoshikawa:: Are you talking about the next Akasha? Yama:: I am. Yama:: I've finally found an article, but this one isn't playing around either, you see. Yama:: A body suddenly appears in a room, where no one should have been in... Yama:: To be honest, I didn't really get it. Yama:: Seriously, the hell is this.... where's the balance?(I love Yama's character btw) Yoshikawa:: ... Yoshikawa:: So should we do a different one? Yama:: Hmmm... Yama:: Nah, let's go with this one. Yama:: It's a bother to look for another one anyways. Yama:: Besides, coincidences like this are rare. Yoshikawa:: Coincidences? Yama: Well then, let's bring out this case's assigned detective! Yoshikawa:: How surprising... Detective Marunouch? Marunouchi:: Ouch ouch ouch...] Marunouchi:: Hm, so I'm back. Yoshikawa:: So the rare coincidence.... music: https://clyp.it/mprybeec Tsukasa: I'm sorry! I got involved in another case! Yoshikawa:: ...So that's how it is... Tsukasa: I'll let you know, I'm not the culprit this time either, okay!Chapter 1 An Unexpected Guest  December 10th. It was morning and Amano Tsukasa was in great haste. The day of of the trip to Korea the three friends had planned since a long ago. It was decided that at 9:00 Kojima Tatsuo was to pick up Tsukasa by car. Damning herself for not preparing beforehand, having kept putting it off, all the way up to the night before where she instead passed out at 10. Even with having slept so early, maybe from all the fatigue building up, she woke up at 8! Face wash, make up, clothes, stuff bread in mouth, all while finishing up packing within the hour, it was worth self praise. Out of breath she hops into the car. "Wow. You actually wear skirts? If only it was mostly teasing, but the expression was of actual surprise. "The hell kind of person do you think I am?" Tsukasa strongly puffs out her flat chest.  Thereafter, up next was Takahashi Ryouko. They arrived at her apartment in 20 minutes. Tetsuo was kept waiting in the car.She presses the doorbell and, "Tsukasa? Come in." Is heard through the inter-phone. As Tsukasa was about to take of her shoes, "Just wait there. It will only be a minute" The dining kitchen continued to a room in the back, Ryouko with bread in her mouth was in the middle of a struggle with a carry bag. It seems she has the same procrastinating attitude aswell. Tsukasa couldn't help but give off an amused laugh. "Sorry for making you wait. Let's get going!" Tsukasa as if being chased out gets out, notices Ryouko who was following behind only shuts the door and heads for the car. "Ryouko, aren't you gonna lock it?" "Oh. Yeah, that would be bad" "You're such a scatterbrain"  After seeing the she properly locked it, they get in the car, then simply hightail it straight to the airport! Fortunately there was no traffic detainment, and they safely board the plane to Korea Kojima Tetsuo and Takahashi Ryouko were part of Tsukasa's club and friends in college, self proclaimed as the carnivore club. Naturally, the objective of this trip is of course, grilled meat. Only a glance of sightseeing. An itinerary of 3 nights and 4 days. Ryouko can be described as either either audacious or maybe just a bit careless, she has times where she acts without thinking, but on the other hand in contrast Tetsuo is on the other side of that extreme and is much too cautious, and doesn't act without precise thinking. He was the one put in charge of being the guide for the trip. As a matter of fact, Tsukasa and Ryouko are the only ones who don't know what awaits them. Those three had quite the adventure, but it has no relation to the story, so the details shall be omitted. Along the way of the frequent digressions, note that complaints like "There's no way I'm can hang out with you guys for the rest of my life" were made by Tetsuo. "Not like I want I want to either" With a nod Tetsuo says "I thought so" to Ryouko's retort, and adds, "Your boyfriend must be quie patient to deal with you" The reason he added such a cynical remark is because Ryouko is half living together with her boyfriend, Sakuma Katsumi. Tsukasa has met him two or three times before, he works part time at a convenience store and is also a working as an amateur actor, he has a dainty and slim stature, but looks like he has youthful athletic vigor. "Come to think of it, did your boyfriend say anything about the trip?" asks Tsukasa. "Not really. He did say 'go eat your heart out'" "How nice. You're so lucky. I wish I could have a boyfriend like that. Your last boyfriend really gave you some hardships, but now you seem full of happiness" After saying that, Ryouko makes a frown and says, "Actually recently, my ex, has been keeps saying he wants to get back together, it's a bit troubling" "Huh, really?" "He's annoying, when I didn't take his call he was waiting for me when I came home" "I thought your ex had a girlfriend? Wait didn't they break up because of a change in heart?" "'You're the only one for me, let's get back together and I'll break up with my girlfriend' he keeps telling me things like that. What a joke. It got so annoying so I bluntly told him to stop bothering me, but I don't know if that'll work. Ugh, guys really only think of themselves!" To which Tetsuo immediately pouts, "Don't generalize us" "So, does your current boyfriend know?" "I haven't told Ka-chan anything about it yet,I wonder if I should?" Tsukasa thinks with a hmmmm, "If it all works itself out then you won't need to say anything, but just see how things turn out for a bit, if it continues I think you should have a discussion about it" "Yeah. Thanks. I'll do that." As Ryouko nods, that conversation ends. Then on the 13th, they somehow got through the glutton trip safely, and all three of them return to Japan. "You two should stop by at my place. I have some delicious chinese tea. It'll warm us up, and they say it has 7 times more fat burning effect than oolong tea" To Ryouko's suggestion "I'd appreciate it. I gotta burn all this somewhere." Tetsuo while driving pats his stomach. Ryouko's apartment was behind the next corner,A car quickly runs through the corner almost crashing with them, they become shocked. The car which was red, makes a big cut through the curb, and leaves without slowing down. "What the hell. That was close" Anyhow, they arrive somewhere around 4 in the afternoon. in a 3 story 9 apartment extremely generic building. They park the car in the resident use parking lot, "ooh, burr" While scrunching their sholders they hurry to the third room in the first floor. "Ah. The delivery" Ryouko takes the delivery attempt notice that was on her doorknob, and sticks her key in but, "Huh?" It goes clatter clatter many times and she tilts her head in confusion "What's wrong?" Tsukasa asks, as Ryouko opens the door, "The door wasn't locked" "Then did Katsumi-san stop by?" "He shouldn't have at this time though" She gives another look at the delivery attempt notice, enters inside and Ryouko says, "Ka-chan?" She calls inside. Tsukasa and Tetsuo are both following behind. She clicks on the lights, steps onto the floor boarded dining kitchen and stops there, "Ka-chan....?" Her voice sounded stiffened and held, making the other two look toward the back as they become startled.  The dining kitchen and western style room in the back are connected by the medium of a lintel, Which is one step lower. past that line, a dainty and slim man was lying down. He was wearing a checkerboard pattern shirt and black pants. Laying face up, his upper body was turned slightly almost facing them, He fell down limp. His face, physique, there's no doubt that it's Sakuma Katsumi. However, his eyes are fully opened are leaden and murky, his skin turned into an unpleasant clay like color, it's clear that there was no shred of life in him. (Please look up lintel or 鴨居 in google images for a better understainding, I don't know if it has any relation to the case, but the game keeps bringing it up.) "No!" Tetsuo goes past Tsukasa who was frozen, and quickly gets closer. Then touches the neck, "It's cold. He's dead. No doubt about it." He whispers with a shaky voice. "Ka-chan!" Ryouko lkmps closer as if she just got out of paralsys, and loudly cries and falls to her feet. Tetsuo switches with her, and calls the police with his cellphone Tsukasa fearfully gets closer with a peciluar feeling she stares at the scene. What happened? Why did this happen? As those rhetorical thoughts kept spinning around in her mind, "There's blood on the back of his head. This wasn't sickness or suicide. He had to have been killed by someone." With a low voice, Tetsuo whispers into her ear, and Tsukasa feels a sharp freeze on her back. Yoshikawa:: Let's organize up to when the victim showed up. Shall we. Marunouchi:: Going to a meat eating trip in Korea, aren't you high class... Marunouchi:: You must have had some delicous chima jeogori there, huh Yoshikawa:: Marunouchi-san, chima jeogori is korean fashion Yoshikawa:: It has nothing to do with meat Marunouchi:: A-Ahem! I'm talking about that! Marunouchi:: Kochori! Certainly you had some delicious Kochori, right! Yoshikawa:: ...Marunouchi-san, Kochori is made of vegetables Yoshikawa:: It has no relation to meat(God, I hope Tsukasa's impressed) ] Marunouchi:: Sa-Sangchu... Yoshikawa:: That's vegetable aswell[maru4]: .... Yoshikawa::.... : Now let's get to analyzing the case, first the characters. Tsukasa: Ah, he ran away from it.[maru]: First, the 3 who are in the carnivore club, Ryouko Takahashi, Kojima Tetsuo, and Amano Tsukasa-kun [maru]: The victim's name is Sakuma Katsumi.  Tsukasa: Ryouko's boyfriend. Yoshikawa:: Sakuma Katsumi died in Takahashi Ryouko's appartment... Yoshikawa:: Takahashi Ryouko's room was, certainly...(Game gives a dumb quiz) Yoshikawa:: on the first floor third room. Tsukasa: Yes, the building is three stories tall and they each have three rooms. Yoshikawa:: You guys arrived at the apartment at 4 in the afternoon. Yoshikawa:: The room was open, with a delivery attempt notice on the doorknob Tsukasa: Before that, we almost crashed with a red car... Yoshikawa:: Does that car have any relation to the case? Tsukasa: Yeah Tsukasa: You'll see if you read the rest Yoshikawa:: I see... Well let's read the rest.Chapter 2 The Suspects  The investigators arrive, among them was a conspicuously ill mannered detective, "What? You again!?" He raises his deep voice. "Ah, Detective Marunouchi-san!" "Now I wonder why you're here." "Yeah, about that...." Tsukasa and Tetsuo give an explanation, "...That's about it. Of course I'm not the culprit, kay." As she adds the last part, Detective Marunouchi strongly knits his disheveled brow and says, "verdicts come after the investigation!" with a rough voice. "But even so..." The policeman mutters while looking over scene of the crime in the western room. Let's explain the state of the scene once more. In front of the concrete entrance there is a six tatami mat size dining room in there is a table with 4 chairs. There is also a bathroom and shower lined close by the entrance. Past the dining kitchen is a 6 tatami mat sized western room, connected by a one step lower lintel. The western room has cork flooring, looking from the kitchen side, there is a window going down to the fllor on the front, on the right side there is a door to the bedroom, in the middle is a low steel made table placed there. There are three bookshelves in that room, on the left wall is a sliding door type, ones with a glass door on them are lined up, and one for book collecting with a shallow depth, placed next to the door on the right wall. Furthermore, There are even fixed shelves built ontop of the lintel on both sides. However all that's stored in them are slightly less ammount of books, and a large amount of stuffed toys Of the stuffed toysmost of them are of a character styled lesser panda. There are around 200 of them varying in size and placed all over the three shelves. Them sorrounding a dead body made for a surreal sight. Diagram of the apartment  Although it's hard to be certain since there is a small amount of blood, there is a depression on the back of the head thought to be caused by a blunt object,even without a detailed autopsy, it has been declared that the immediate cause of death is due to cerebral contusion. The biggest problem being time of death, upon Marunouchi asking the old white coated examiner about that matter, he answers "It's around 2 or maybe 4 days after death'  "That quite a big gap" To Tsukasa's comment from the side Marunouchi's face scrunches and says, "You don't need to know", but could it be that the old examiner likes talking, or he's fond of young girls, he says, "To be sure we just need to wait for a more detailed autopsy. However, seeing as how rigor mortis has thouroughly relaxed, there's no doubt that 2 days have passed after death Now, we're at the halfway point in the Akasha... I'll stop here. My current theory is that the murderer used a trick using rigor mortis to their advantage. I don't really even know how it probobly just has something to do with it... My money is on Takahashi being the killer. Having an alibi while you're in a different country sounds too good to be true, I feel like the game would pull something like that. They introduce other suspects later, but their motives are much too generic, they feel like red herrings to distract us. Please let me know what you guys think happened. juicedup fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Jun 7, 2017 |
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Yeah, I'd suspect a rigor mortis trick here, most likely the classic "keep the heat on to keep the body warmer/make it look more freshly dead" trick you see a fair amount in whodunit puzzles, which implicates Ryouko pretty clearly. Other evidence for Ryouko: 1) She goes out of her way to talk about her ex-boyfriend acting irrationally/threatening to show up at her place, which really seems to be setting up for a story of her ex breaking into her place, finding Katsumi there, and murdering him; 2) The cause of death was a single blow to the back of the head, with very little blood. That suggests there was no struggle, which doesn't seem plausible if we have a crazed ex-boyfriend attacking Katsumi (who's specifically mentioned as athletic and who could presumably fight back), but seems completely plausible if he was ambushed by someone he trusted, like his girlfriend. Right now I'm trying to figure out what's going on with the locked-room bit. The first thought I had is that Ryouko deliberately "forgot" to lock her door at first, to set up for the story of the intruder, but how does that jibe with being caught and having to actually lock it? Could an accomplice have entered the apartment some other way and unlocked it from the inside, or did she just fake locking the door in a way that her friends didn't spot? Or quickly unlock it during her key-jiggling, then claim it was unlocked all along? That may actually be the most plausible idea; it'd be trivial to hide real unlocking in a flurry of "confused" redundant unlocking, and it'd explain why she went out of her way to invite her friends back to her apartment, since it lets her stage the entire body-finding sequence (surprise at the door being unlocked, then surprise at the corpse) with witnesses who can also testify towards her being gone for days beforehand.
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The door thing is indeed confusing. The more I read it, the more I begin to think there's an accomplice. The red car definitely has to be related. By the way, my rigor mortise theory is a bit different. Look at the diagram closely and keep rigor mortise in mind. I don't want to reveal my theory fully just yet.
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Regarding the rigor mortis thing, I think all that means is that he's been dead for at least 2 days, which isn't super relevant if we're suspecting the people who were on the trip (which of course we are, because anything else is too simple). It's possible there is something going on there to obfuscate the time of death. Like, maybe he was dead before they left and she left her air con on blast. Actually, I could be wrong about this, but I think 2-4 days means that he could've been killed on the morning that they left for the trip, but I'm not sure if Tsukasa would've seen the body if that were the case. The lack of apparent murder weapon is interesting. As is the body's position under the lintel. Maybe Ryouko rigged a Home Alone style trap and something fell off of the lintel and smashed his brains out. That would explain why she "forgot" to lock the door when she was leaving. The person in the red car is probably the ex. I'm guessing they found the body and decided to flee the scene in the most suspicious way possible. Heck, maybe they took the murder weapon for some reason. They could be an accomplice, or they could be an unwitting pawn who was only hounding Ryouko cause he wanted his precious collectors item Panda-Bear-Full-of-Rocks back, and didn't mind that it was a little covered in blood and brain matter Edit: ^^^I think I might know what you're getting at if it relates to the body changing positions at some point. If I'm wrong, then never mind, just ignore me. But if the body did change positions at some point post mortem, then you should be able to tell due to lividity (the way the blood settles in the body after death. Although it's always hard to tell if a story is going to take that kind of thing into account. LonelyMudkip fucked around with this message at 11:49 on Jun 7, 2017 |
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