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Mainwaring
Jun 22, 2007

Disco is not dead! Disco is LIFE!



Corbyn often has good policies but is fundamentally bad at the job of being leader of the opposition. He'd probably be a pretty good shadow work and pensions secretary or something idk.

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Mainwaring
Jun 22, 2007

Disco is not dead! Disco is LIFE!



Yeah I don't think Labour can win but my most optimistic scenario right now is a hung parliament with the tories as the largest party which would still be hilariously embarrassing for May.

Mainwaring
Jun 22, 2007

Disco is not dead! Disco is LIFE!



Disappointed that the issue of cans wasn't raised tonight...

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Mainwaring
Jun 22, 2007

Disco is not dead! Disco is LIFE!



SKULL.GIF posted:

does britain have a media blackout for the last couple days of the election like france does, or will the campaigning continue up through thursday?

As far as I'm aware it's just election day when the media campaign is suspended.

Mainwaring
Jun 22, 2007

Disco is not dead! Disco is LIFE!



Holy poo poo guys I just voted for labour.

It's a pity that Jim Fitzpatrick is just about the boringest MP in the world.

Mainwaring
Jun 22, 2007

Disco is not dead! Disco is LIFE!



Papers writing about foreign political events are mostly going to focus on the party and people forming a government after and election, opposition figures are usually of little interest to people in other countries as it has little bearing on them.

Mainwaring
Jun 22, 2007

Disco is not dead! Disco is LIFE!



It's not a win but it's a drat good night for labour and potentially gives them a strong position in the coming years. I do worry that Corbyn is much better at campaigning than he is as the day to day opposition leader although hopefully last night means he gets a fair bit more respect from the media and his own party (lol).

Ultimately though the next election, whether it's some locals or an early General, needs to be a big labour win. It won't be enough to just keep the Tory majority down next time.

Mainwaring
Jun 22, 2007

Disco is not dead! Disco is LIFE!



babypolis posted:

what happens if the prime minister loses their seat

Technically pm can be in the house of lords so you could drop an emergency life peerage on them I suppose. Realistically any party leader losing their seat is unlikely to have just won an election.

Mainwaring
Jun 22, 2007

Disco is not dead! Disco is LIFE!



It's almost as if political campaigning in the US and UK are completely different beasts and trying to transfer strategies and skills across will often flop (didn't Nate Silver try and completely fail to do predictions for the 2010 election and give up on ever doing it again?)

Mainwaring
Jun 22, 2007

Disco is not dead! Disco is LIFE!



I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
'CONTROLS ON IMMIGRATION'

Mainwaring
Jun 22, 2007

Disco is not dead! Disco is LIFE!



https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/875347278596366336

Mainwaring
Jun 22, 2007

Disco is not dead! Disco is LIFE!



A no confidence vote would be very unlikely to pass as it would require active support from the DUP which is extremely unlikely as it's in their interest that the Tory seat count stays at almost exactly its current level (low enough for the Tories to need DUP help, high enough to keep evil IRA Corbyn away).

As long as the DUP at least abstain on any confidence vote the Tories have an effective majority. And since the Tories don't want an election because they are pretty confident they would lose this leaves a situation where the government will likely just hobble on indefinitely for the next 5 years. It's obviously an unstable equilibrium though and a significant backbench revolt or a few bi-elections could change everything.

Mainwaring
Jun 22, 2007

Disco is not dead! Disco is LIFE!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J2IHifb7q4&t=291s

Mainwaring
Jun 22, 2007

Disco is not dead! Disco is LIFE!



If Tories got less votes but more seats than labour then their seat lead would almost certainly be lower than it is now and it's unlikely they'd successfully form a government even with DUP support. Labour might if they can strike a sort of progressive alliance deal.

Mainwaring
Jun 22, 2007

Disco is not dead! Disco is LIFE!



Third World Reagan posted:

Little known fact.

Every week the UK has voted brexit and then done brexit in some alternate time line.

Every week, every person, a brexit.

You might be pleased to hear that in not one of these infinite time lines has Nigel Farage obtained any degree of contentment or happiness.

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Mainwaring
Jun 22, 2007

Disco is not dead! Disco is LIFE!



Tories are totally going to find a way to put Cummings in jail when this is all over.

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