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Dravs posted:I'm honestly fine with people voting Lib Dems if that's what they want. At least they aren't outwardly fascists like the other 2 parties on the right at the moment. While they don't have plans to re-nationalise anything, at least they will not privatise the NHS any more than it already is, unlike what the Tories have got planned. They totally will though. They'll get a 2025 plastic bag ban for it, so it is impossible to say whether it is bad or not.
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2019 14:36 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 06:49 |
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ikanreed posted:Wow the laws of this institution seem like they're made of a heavy, durable metal Sounds like iron to me op.
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2019 15:45 |
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Doccykins posted:lol looks like Nige didn't tell the footsoldiers about his master plan
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2019 14:41 |
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GABA ghoul posted:how is this real? It's a variation on the classical grandparent scam where you trick a technologically illiterate racist old person into funding advertisments for the opposition party.
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2019 22:26 |
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oliwan posted:Wasn't it someone in this thread who said that Jo Swinson is the most attractive woman on British TV right now? lol Is this what the porn ban did to them? Poor bastards.
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2019 18:19 |
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:let’s get one thing straight. you cannot have a “skill wallet”. it is like “kudos”- the proper form is strictly “skills wallets”. there is no such thing as either skill wallets or a singular skills wallet. it is at once plural and uncountable, this is canon. But what if there is only one skill in all the wallets?
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2019 02:11 |
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Jose posted:It's a pitiful amount of money for anyone who is regularly unemployed just like universal.credit which im currently on that is a whole £3 per month less What do you plan to buy with your extra three pounds? Is it for the porn pass?
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2019 15:36 |
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Bryter posted:Audience groaned at Corbyn bringing up the effects of climate change in poor countries too. Why are you like this Brits?? Are you familiar with how the brit TV picks their audience?
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2019 22:36 |
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really queer Christmas posted:So when is the election? Jeremy Corbyn is already Prime Minister.
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# ¿ Dec 4, 2019 16:17 |
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*over 65
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# ¿ Dec 6, 2019 22:44 |
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:sending all my energy to corbyn ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2019 15:18 |
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Gripweed posted:Is there a chance that maybe the exit polls were faked in order to make a potential Corbyn victory look like voter fraud? If they fake the exit poll they'll have figured out a way to stuff the ballot boxes with fakes. If you're going for a coup there would have been initial allegations of Labour vote fraud.
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2019 00:36 |
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Svensken posted:So it seems like the LibDems and Labour split the votes which handed the Tories a bunch of districts. Would Labour have had a shot if the Parliamentary seats were distributed by popular vote rather than by constituency? I think Labour, LibDem and Scots would have a slight majority if the numbers are final. The LibDems of course would join Boris.
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2019 11:54 |
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Juliet Whisky posted:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50781738 "Kalecki 1943" posted:But 'discipline in the factories' and 'political stability' are more appreciated than profits by business leaders. Their class instinct tellsthem that lasting full employment is unsound from their point of view, and that unemployment is an integral part of the 'normal' capitalist system.
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2019 19:54 |
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https://twitter.com/LukePagarani/status/1205488470472441858
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2019 20:15 |
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Gripweed posted:I'm slightly annoyed to just find out now that Corbyn was the least popular opposition leader in decades. Up to the election all I heard was that the Tories and the BBC were so desperate all they could do was spin up the antisemitism smear, this was gonna be really close, he might do it, whatever the gently caress "Dinner Boy going to eat his eggs" meant. And then Corbyn eats poo poo, historically eats poo poo, eats poo poo to the point that yesterday's election will be used as a reference point for eating poo poo in future elections. And then suddenly oh yeah it turns out everyone in Britain hated Corbyn because he was a boring vegetarian substitute teacher. I mean, all the polls were posted in the thread? And how many Brit people over 50 post in C-Spam, do you think?
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2019 20:47 |
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Jel Shaker posted:while I would like to think this would “clear out the dead wood”, in reality when people find nothing else changes they will either disengage or latch onto the next nationalist talking point (e.g cod wars 2.0?) It's going to be Scotland trying to leave.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2019 13:45 |
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therattle posted:That is England only. Sure. From the best result in decades. Who was the party leader then? Maybe you should put him in charge?
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2019 20:26 |
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hakimashou posted:Putting to one side jeremy corbyn's other merits or failings, does anyone really still think that ""Constructive"""" ambiguity on brexit, or whatever stupid name they were calling it, was a good idea? Don't think they were calling it anything? The old position was we'll do Brexit without the implied ethnic cleansing. Then the LibDems surged in the EU elections and the PLP got spooked/ saw a chance to get rid of Corbyn and pushed for a Remain position (supported by the membership, because they hate the idea of Brexit). They got it and now everyone dies.
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2019 00:00 |
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therattle posted:It’s partly a matter of opinion, so it’s hard to prove either way. That said, voter polling strongly suggests that the reason people turned away from Labour was leadership, then some way behind, Brexit. That’s not an opinion, that’s fact. I do insist on making statements that can be at least partly backed up by stats. Telling me to gently caress off doesn’t change the numbers. I posted them before and I am sure I can find them again, if needed. What you keep willfully ignoring is that the exact same leadership got a vastly better result in 2017 with broadly the same policies and campaign in in the face of the same right-wing smear campaign. It didn't stick then. The only thing that changed is the Brexit position and the Tories' categorical refusal to discuss any policy. Of course the Leadership looks shifty if they change their position on the one thing that dominates all news coverage.
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2019 11:08 |
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Randler posted:Do we already know when BoJo will present his deal to be voted on in parliament? I think no one in the Tories is allowed to read it before the vote. It' in the manifesto.
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# ¿ Dec 18, 2019 20:54 |
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But he also wrote in the manifesto that no one gets to read trade deals before the vote and he gets to do a new constitution. Lol
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2019 14:39 |
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hakimashou posted:So much for 2024 Ah yes, the Times calls someone a Stalinist. How unexpected.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2019 12:05 |
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AnoHito posted:Why would someone vote for a compromise when there are parties running on the position they'd prefer outright? That's not quite what was going on here since the policy is decided at conference by the membership. The old Labour position, pushed by Corbyn was to do a Brexit, but keep most everything the same, so they can say they respected the referendum while making everything only slightly worse. But the party members always hated the whole thing and only the 60+ demographic was really into it. For the parliamentary Labour party it was always mainly a stick to beat the Leadership with. So after the LibDems made gains in the EU elections the balance of power shifted and Labour switched to what used to be the remain position. Of course, since basically everyone here is dealing in bad faith the LibDems then switched to outright cancellation, but not really, as the only real Remain position, as usually pushed by the "liberal" media and Labour MPs. So now Corbyn gets to defend a policy he doesn't believe in while everyone calls him a traitor, the Brexit party acts as the conservative front organization it is and only runs in Labour seats, the LibDems and the Greens do a tactical remain alliance that does nothing except hand the Tories a few more seats and Labour MPs he has compromised with for years to keep them on board resigne because of "anti-semetism".
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# ¿ Dec 31, 2019 18:34 |
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thotsky posted:Corbyn was systematically denied opportunities to speak about Labour's manifesto, which had worked well for him in the last election. I believe that is the number one reason they lost. The main thing Corbyn really should have done with hindsight is open the selection for MP seats. Trying to keep the PLP on board failed miserably.
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2020 12:54 |
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Nah, won't be bated by ch4. Not mad at all.
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# ¿ Jan 17, 2020 11:09 |
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Jose posted:nobody in the DnD thread went iwth my idea of getting fat instead and enjoying themselves because it'll naturally go away after brexit The owl did.
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