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jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Pantsuit posted:

British ppl really need to be dealt with

Viscount Rothermere is a tax cheat who lives in France, it's his paper.

# ¿ Apr 21, 2017 17:23

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jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

PleasingFungus posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Alternative_Vote_referendum,_2011

empirically, at least 68% of britain is dumb

100% of the Lib Dems were worthless + stupid in that government.

They couldn't secure a vote on PR so we got that AV abortion, but they propped up the government just enough that its backbenchers getting rowdy made brexit happen. Scum.

In other news here is an amusing video: https://twitter.com/JOE_co_uk/status/855481155243696128

# ¿ Apr 21, 2017 22:17

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Jose posted:

why did you only start posting in the UKMT thread recently? you've been on the forums ages

Because until I posted in CSPAM I didn't really venture into DnD except to say "jesus christ what a lot of poo poo posts" then one day I dipped my toe in the water like an idiot instead of staying back.

I think the thread is less prolier-than-thou than it used to be though? idk

Baloogan posted:

UKMT is a horrid thread

It used to be even worse and is still pretty bad yeah.

# ¿ Apr 21, 2017 22:29

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Jose posted:

It's largely unchanged imo but it's bad to read too regularly for all sorts of reason but mostly that's it's depressing.

The detachment from reality + sheer pointless aggression is intense yeah.

quote:

In less depressing news I'm dog sitting and the dog has decided to sleep on my bed

Nice.

# ¿ Apr 21, 2017 22:57

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It's funny how easily Blairites are willing to forget that they lost to the guy who hosed a pig.

*in extremely Blairite voice* Gordon Brown lost to D Camz, not Blair!!

# ¿ Apr 22, 2017 10:47

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Jose posted:

https://twitter.com/EricPickles/sta...r%3D148%23pti35

Do not let this man lead a quango holocaust

# ¿ Apr 22, 2017 11:09

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Tingfinder posted:

Why does all the media outlets seem to hate Corbyn anyway? Even The Guardian hates him.

Is it just because he's a socialist? His policies seem pretty sensible on paper.

Because him, the people around him, and especially the new membership that voted for him are just about the worst possible advocates for their own policies.

# ¿ Apr 22, 2017 12:59

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Tingfinder posted:

In that case they should probably consider making some changes, the polls are not looking great for them.

They tried this at the worst possible time, when the government collapsed and probably could have been forced into an early election they might have lost their majority in, when they ran some nobody who lobbied for dick pills. Some people voted for Corbyn as a gently caress you to the PLP over that, some voted for him because they genuinely believed in his policies. We are stuck with him until he goes.

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Obviously doesn't help that a lot of ill informed workers are voting for the rich people to screw them over, due to their misguided fears of immigrants. Seems like just some basic history lessons would make them realize how silly it is to just blame the immigrants.

A lot of it is about immigrants but there is a big big part of the working class everywhere that thinks their bosses are right to be where they are, and if they apply themselves they can be too. In some cases they are right, in others they are not. The challenge for Labour has always been to convince working class tories they can have a good, productive, enriching future if they vote Labour, instead of just getting taxed and red taped into oblivion (which has actually happened under the Conservatives this time but that kind of legislative chicanery is unsexy to talk about).

# ¿ Apr 22, 2017 13:24

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Clive Lewis is a myth.

# ¿ Apr 22, 2017 15:05

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Badger of Basra posted:

Surely polo costs more

Only if played with elephants as god intended

# ¿ Apr 23, 2017 14:51

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Nonsense posted:

https://twitter.com/sophwilkinson/status/856062591428419588

lol @ that fuckin radge

# ¿ Apr 23, 2017 20:27

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Tingfinder posted:

How is Blair still politically relevant? Dude should be in jail for all the lies and fear he pushed to get UK into Iraq.

He isn't. The Guardian and the BBC and so on still report his opinion like it matters, but UK opinion on the man is pretty much "shut the gently caress up before we remember to jail you".

# ¿ Apr 24, 2017 11:54

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

get that OUT of my face posted:

isn't netanyahu in the midst of some corruption row or is he just gonna slide out of that as well

He's never not in some kind of corruption row.

Jose posted:

its cool that after 7 years of things being insanely poo poo for almost everyone they're going to again vote the tories in. They're using the same slogan as last time despite brexit and the leader changing lol

Yeah my favourite thing about this country is how crashingly poo poo everything is nowadays, including and perhaps most importantly the opposition that I support.

# ¿ Apr 29, 2017 21:13

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Fallen Hamprince posted:

oh wow Britain is super hosed lol

wonder how much of that left-wing quarter lives in Scotland

If you replaced "Britain" with "Scotland", the last two would definitely apply to a lot of the nationalists there.

# ¿ Apr 30, 2017 19:33

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

nopantsjack posted:

Oh hey it's the SNP is basically the BNP but Scottish opinion that pops up every time English peeps discuss Scotland.

No it's the "quite xenophobic nationalists exist everywhere" opinion that's backed up by the SNP thought to be the second-largest voting bloc in favour of Brexit after the Tories in Scotland during the referendum (obviously since the ballot was secret we will never be 100% sure, but the former head reckons they were 30-34% in favour of it which puts them slightly ahead of Labour who were about 30% in favour.

# ¿ Apr 30, 2017 20:35

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

*remembering decade of steady growth of wages and opportunities in general* yeah what shite days those were... things are better now for sure

# ¿ May 1, 2017 00:52

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Remember the Iraq War?

Yeah I marched against it and was fairly disappointed with the whole situation. Current government would be on it like a dog on chips, too, though, given Boris Johnson explicitly said last week "well if the US asks for help I think I'd fire the missiles without talking to parliament".

# ¿ May 1, 2017 11:30

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Jose posted:

good luck in your election btw mate its just a shame you're a tory

Hey, in the words of Tim Farron, we're all sinners.

# ¿ May 1, 2017 11:42

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Hodgepodge posted:

don't you have to like, sacrifice babies under a new moon or something to be a tory though?

*in stage whisper before this gets even more out of hand*

Some American UKMT poster has it in his head that I am in fact Jack Brereton, candidate for the Stoke By-Election, and that my posting in UKMT at the end of last year was me running some kind of hustings/intelligence-gathering on the British left, because he is 100% hosed in the head.

# ¿ May 1, 2017 11:51

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Maybe it would be much fairer for the average Briton to hold up the everyday everyman who didn't give a poo poo about the colonies, and was being cheerfully robbed at home themselves as their idol, because that's a much more realistic and representative example for most of us than Chin Peng or Ghandi.

# ¿ May 3, 2017 14:03

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

"I'm the Qahtan Muhammad al-Shaabi of trying not to fall behind too far on my gas bill and to get a pay rise in line with or slightly above inflation."
"Same."

# ¿ May 3, 2017 14:07

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

# ¿ May 4, 2017 18:02

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Jose posted:

we're hosed lol

yes it is astounding

# ¿ May 9, 2017 19:40

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

In the wise words of reginald d hunter that is a truth if not the truth

# ¿ May 9, 2017 20:43

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

exmarx posted:

the anti-brexit campaign was run by blair et al 🤔

Both the official pro and anti brexit campaigns were headed by tories because it was an internal party matter that accidentally got out of hand and now everything is going to be ruined because Theresa May is an idiotic coward

# ¿ May 9, 2017 21:01

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Jose posted:

cameron also ran an extremely lazy campaign because after winning an unexpected majority he thought people loved him

The level of contempt for the public by the remain campaign was pretty out there.

Like the Leave campaign were utter shysters but that was to be expected; getting the big four accounting firms, all of which should be jailed en masse, to produce a report that says it'll cost everyone �4310 per family in terms of lost GDP in a way that in no way addresses the loss of income by public + private wage restraint relative to GDP growth for the last decade was a particularly loving stupid decision imo

# ¿ May 9, 2017 22:04

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

get that OUT of my face posted:

was labour all that visible in brexit campaigning? because if they weren't, that's the best thing that they could have done. hide behind the bickering, split tories and let them slug each other

This basically happened and then in a brilliant strategic decision, instead of getting a general election they could have won by pushing really hard on a totally collapsing Conservative party, dumb rear end splitters decided to try to oust Corbyn by way of no-name dick pill merchant who instantly repudiated his entire life of CND activism Owen Smith.

# ¿ May 9, 2017 22:06

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

hakimashou posted:

The brexit-voting british public is literally contemptible though isnt it?

It's a mixture of True Contemptibles and somewhat thick people who voted for it because they didn't think it would ever happen but did want to tell Londoners to gently caress off imo.

# ¿ May 9, 2017 22:07

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Jose posted:

it was really impressive how badly they botched that i thought they had an actual candidate at first lol

they should never be allowed to forget what a monumental gently caress up it was arranging another leadership challenge then without a loving candidate christ

It was particularly loving choice that they had a candidate albeit not a great one in Angela Eagle, and then Owen Smith stepped right in front of her and white knighted about Jeremy Corbyn hating women before basically saying "yeah cheers for firing the starting gun love but now we're busy ok?" lol what a farce

# ¿ May 9, 2017 22:37

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

haha the leavers coloured an entire bus with a false promise for billions of pounds for the NHS after the leave vote and lied but it's the remain that had the huge levels of contempt for the public you see

The truth is without any hesitation about it being The Lame Answer that both sides were complete loving poo poo.

Pretending that there's going to be �350mil a week which is def going to the NHS is a piss take.

Claiming that it's going to cost everyone a very specific amount of money and that in any case they want an Emergency Brake On Migration is a different more sophisticated on the surface level piss take.

# ¿ May 9, 2017 22:43

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Lt. Danger posted:

I thought Eagle was a stalking horse and the intended candidate was Smith all along, which was why he was approaching MPs about a challenge back in March 2016

I'm sure every fucker and their mum approached MPs about a challenge with the hope that word would get around and the press would back them as the Smiling Assassin Of The Mad Trot Corbyn.

# ¿ May 9, 2017 22:44

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Jose posted:

it was farage's group who were promising the �350m and not the tories i think but it was still disgraceful and Chuka Umunna trying to get some rule implemented that claims couldn't be straight up lies was a good idea but where the gently caress has he gone

He was on C4 being quite sensible about things last week and basically saying "we might lose the election, and I hope we don't and I back Corbyn, but this government needs to be held to account while they botch the brexit process horribly and gently caress everything up by trying to score points with the press."

# ¿ May 9, 2017 22:46

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

sorry brother but a brexit especially with the current level of negotiation (read none) is going to absolutely hit the average briton in the wallet and the entire economy as well

I do not disagree whatsoever.

But an accountancy firm hired by the government telling millions of people that have experienced wage restraint in both the public and private sector while a very small group makes out like bandits that GDP slowing will cost them a specific amount is at best overly specific, technical, and shallow.

# ¿ May 9, 2017 22:50

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

"Things have been bad. They will get much worse, except for a handful of people who can run any time they like."

# ¿ May 9, 2017 22:54

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Concerned Citizen posted:

their first act would be to behead corbyn

they need jesters m8

# ¿ May 9, 2017 23:59

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Karl Barks posted:

okay brits heres my question. if you're a liberal, why would you not vote for the lib dems, or try to take over that party. why do they cling to labor????

The lib dems is unsurprisingly full of liberals of many flavours and was really created by the more fiscally conservative end of Labour in the 1980s.

Labour is a bigly huge tent of liberals, ivory tower socialists, and leftish working class people.

# ¿ May 10, 2017 21:40

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Karl Barks posted:

ya that's what i thought. so why don't the right leaning labor people just join the lib dems?

Because the most influential Lib Dems are quite right wing about economics in a way that nearly all Labour people, even those on the right of the party, are not. There were certainly left leaning liberals in the party who quit Labour over Iraq but then the party formed a coalition with the Tories which sorta put an end to that.

# ¿ May 10, 2017 22:29

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Jose posted:

i got told i was insulting a person of colour the other day and a "socialist" because i called someone out for posting their own tweets lol

*in increasingly mantric UKMT voice* gently caress off nazi!!!

# ¿ May 10, 2017 22:30

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Vox Nihili posted:

can someone explain why the tories are still popular despite the extreme brexit death thats about to take place under their watch?

1) Tess May has a weird cult of personality platform she more or less stole from Arlene Foster's last DUP campaign where they somehow won the NI election despite bankrupting the assembly for a generation.
2) Everyone has caved on Brexit and they started it so they seem dynamic rather than terrifyingly dangerous if you're into that kind of thing.
3) Labour has not been an articulate + effective opposition since the end of their time in government.

# ¿ May 11, 2017 22:13

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jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer