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Concerned Citizen posted:iirc labour offered lib dems ending fptp in exchange for coalition, but lib dems instead chose the tories who only offered them a referendum on the thing. well, seems that was a mistake. electoral reform referendums p much always fail because average people don't understand anything more about elections then 'vote go in vote box and most votes wins hurrr' and basically democracy was a mistake, fully automated luxury technocracy now imo
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jBrereton posted:Because the most influential Lib Dems are quite right wing about economics in a way that nearly all Labour people, even those on the right of the party, are not. There were certainly left leaning liberals in the party who quit Labour over Iraq but then the party formed a coalition with the Tories which sorta put an end to that. Western leftists, or at least anglosphere leftists, like to delude themselves about how mainstream their politics is to the point where UK trots can't imagine a political position to the right of Blair-era labour when no, actually, Blairite neoliberalism is still (slightly) left of the UK's center and there's a reason even Corbyn isn't pledging to nationalize all banks on day 1.
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Aliquid posted:You described the Canadian Liberals as center-left. They're not, and the gulf between them and the NDP is larger than you admit the BC liberals and Liberal Party of Canada aren't the same party lol
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Lord Bartleroy of Tottingham-Upon-Hotspur: "Actually, colonial, Wikipedia states that the Liberal Party of BC states that they are 'fiscally conservative', and my chav footman informs me that BC stands for 'Big Canada'."
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May 11, 2017 21:55
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The 4 sheepherders and the lighthouse keeper are near unanimous. the left ferociously and unrelentingly defends the right of self-determination, except when it pisses off dad more not too
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 pictured: precious, innocent ARA General Belgrano, victim of the brutal war crime of being sunk by the navy it was fighting, during war
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May 13, 2017 18:27
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think of all the fishing boats she could have shelled, cruise missiles she could have launched, had Belgrano not been struck down in her prime
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May 13, 2017 18:28
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May 13, 2017 21:54
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Labor being entitled to all it creates is the best reason. labour: entitled to mountains of worthless coal
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May 14, 2017 03:41
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:This is sure to help Corbin with the bloodthirsty British public. only if it was for sexual reasons
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May 14, 2017 05:11
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:Oh yes, I remember seeing that interview where Corbyn condemned the Berlin Airlift for no conceivable reason. oh gently caress is that real?
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May 14, 2017 16:57
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:No, I was mocking the list. thought so, even that's a little much for jezza now McDonnell, i can totally see him stopping an interview to give a longwinded rant about how flying food to west berlin was a vile form of neoimperialism and have you ever noticed how little most britains appreciate the revolutionary struggle of the provisional ira?
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May 14, 2017 17:35
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what the blairites fail to realize is that irish catholic terrorism is extremely popular with the british working class, and furthermore
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May 14, 2017 23:55
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Agnosticnixie posted:Yes, how could you be uneasy at being part of a club that dubbed itself the free world despite three of its members being dictatorships for a chunk of its existence. a whole three members, drat. you really opened my eyes there dog
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May 15, 2017 03:31
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:All NATO members are bourgeois dictatorships *extremely dialectical voice* what if thing is actually the opposite of thing, and vice-versa. owned libs
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May 15, 2017 03:35
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the the ussr the people were free to vote* *for the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, the only party on the ballot
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May 15, 2017 04:05
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British Election thread: people who don't speak russian and were in diapers when the wall fell pine for the days of brezhnev
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May 15, 2017 04:07
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in the year 2017 can vote for a communist party in every democracy in europe and north america. the major opposition party in the uk is in fact led by a far leftist who's finance minister quotes from the little red book in parliament. they just aren't guaranteed to win, because the entire ideology of communism spent the last quarter of the 20th century publicly making GBS threads itself and dying, and the few nominally communist nations left are either authoritarian capitalist dictatorships like china or complete shitshows like venezuela. yes i would like the medium spicy sauce on my nandos thank you
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May 15, 2017 04:19
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Captain_Maclaine posted:*cough*the Confederacy*cough* the confederacy was a belligerent, not a real country :lincoln:
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May 15, 2017 04:20
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Baloogan posted:the british empire was 'bad' (but not exceptionally so, and english law is the basis for the world's law) but it gets serious points for being so cool and paving the way for global civilization overall I'd say the british empire was great. this will get a lot of bites
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May 15, 2017 04:37
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Ancient Sparta, The Assyrian Empire, The Mongolian Empire, Raj India, Belgian Congo, literally every country that practiced serfdom or chattel slavery (the vast majority), every Chinese government until post-GLF, Imperial Japan, Fascist Italy, Fascist Spain, every Latin American government that ever carried out a dirty war, just about every colonial governorate Try Leninism: It might not be as bad as living in *checks notes* the Belgian Congo
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May 15, 2017 04:45
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Leninist Soviet Union was better than all other countries in its day, and all the countries that you could argue are "better" just so happen to be all-white countries that had sucked up all the surplus value of the Global South for a whole century. if only the ussr had gotten on that surplus value game early it wouldnt have to stuff hundreds of thousands of people in gulags for no reason
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May 15, 2017 04:53
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*invades hungary* sorry mate, no choice, all out of surplus value
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May 15, 2017 04:54
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:The Kronstadt sailors sure thought so. please try to stick to the basics with kropoopkin, i don't think the leftypol memes cover kronstadt so he's not going to know what you're talking about
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May 15, 2017 05:09
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The great thing about living in the USSR is although your country is the perpetrator of many of the same human rights abuses as a colonial state, you aren't morally obligated to protest against them because you'll be thrown in jail if you do.
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May 15, 2017 05:21
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Badger of Basra posted:i know you think that's a good thing but a lot of people have finally agreed that's bad the us constitution doesn't allow slavery (any more) but it's bad for other reasons, many of them a product of how old it is
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May 15, 2017 05:24
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Hodgepodge posted:shameful, hamprince. you failed to note that the ussr was itself a colonial state. by colonial state i mean the state in a colony, like the administrations of the Raj or British Kenya, although even in that sense i guess all of the republics other than russia count to some extent
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May 15, 2017 05:28
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why the gently caress to british people care about fox hunting
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May 16, 2017 07:17
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Badger of Basra posted:also the soul of britain is starving brown people to death hth hey now, don't be needlessly provocative the soul of britain is starving poor people to death, they were doing it for centuries before they even had access to brown people
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May 17, 2017 04:33
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the continuing adventures of boris johnson, diplomat extraordinaire 
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May 17, 2017 12:33
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if may somehow manages to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory on this one i will lmfao forever
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May 21, 2017 08:45
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jezza letting anarchists into the cabinet, time for a purge imo
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May 21, 2017 14:36
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p lmao considering labour's only realistic chance of being in government is in coalition with the snp (this won't happen lol)
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May 21, 2017 19:20
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labour 2017: only jezza can stop the snp labour 2018: we had to give northumberland to Queen Nicola I the First so she'd let us nationalize the railways
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May 21, 2017 19:23
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corbyn trying to be pm would bring endless lols so i definitely hope that happens
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May 22, 2017 13:33
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Jose posted:i woudln't put it past the PLP to start mass resignations from the cabinet and a l;eadership challenge even if labour somehow got a majority corbyn will resign in disgrace after a second referendum he OKed to keep PLP at bay forces the UK to remain in the EU, the perfect conclusion to the Brexit SaGa
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May 22, 2017 13:47
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Premier Corbyn forced out after it is discovered he is an Iraqi deep cover agent who has been engaged in a years-long campaign of revenge to destroy the labour party from within but after a serious of hilarious, The Producers-esque backfires ended up transforming the UK into a one-party socialist state.
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May 22, 2017 13:50
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gonna lmafo forever into the cold, dark void if corbyn somehow wins and ends up discrediting the british left-wing forever by completely bungling the implementation of his otherwise popular policies, ushering in decades of tory darkness
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i like all those things but tbh i find british people kind of annoying and the sooner you all can sink into the sea the better imo
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