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hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
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Karl Barks posted:

okay brits heres my question. if you're a liberal, why would you not vote for the lib dems, or try to take over that party. why do they cling to labor???? is it just cause the lib dems are sad and pathetic?

i will not accept any answers from posters with the username hakimashou

None so blind as them that cover they' ears.

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hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
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Jose posted:

hakimashou is extremely dedicated to becoming the top troll on the glory hole but its not going to happen because its broken

Me saying what I believe and then misguided people disagreeing with me does not make me a "troll" jose.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Karl Barks posted:

ya that's what i thought. so why don't the right leaning labor people just join the lib dems?

Under better leadership and with a more centrist orientation the Labour party has a chance of forming a government and holding a majority in parliament but the lib dems don't.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
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Jose posted:

i've seen you serious post mate

J-corbz is seriously gonna lose I think. And he's been a serious liability for like a year now.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
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Jose posted:

the labour manifesto owns a whole lot shame the tories are insanely popular

They want to let children vote...

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Vox Nihili posted:

can someone explain why the tories are still popular despite the extreme brexit death thats about to take place under their watch?

just not enough economic collapse yet or what?

Shambolic opposition, opposition even less popular.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

rudatron posted:

I hope brexit really, really hurts

The worse it is, the better

That's pretty much how I feel about it. The brits all deserve it, they voted for it. And it was a betrayal of the US and all their other allies.

Im also pretty sure trump wouldn't be president if the brexit had gone the other way, so I blame them for all America's problems too.

One of the many many reasons that Macron's triumphant victory is so cool is that as a finance pro he's going to put the screws to britain's financial industry which will wound their country badly.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Hodgepodge posted:

nothing bad ever came of this line of thinking

also lol if you think america cared about brexit

ironically donald 'mr. brexit' trump probably cared more about it than his entire turnout combined

It tore a hole in the sanity of the world.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
One of the rhetorical tricks that corbynistas think is clever is to claim he's popular and a winner because he won the leadership elections.

They forget or willfully ignore that it isnt the Party Members who count, but the general public.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
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She's magnificent just like I said before.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

not really, no

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
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Baloogan posted:

I can still respect someone who doesn't share every single one of my opinions

:reddit: gently caress OFF NAZI UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :reddit:

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
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jBrereton posted:

if you think English politics is hosed up try Northern Ireland lol

Or australia

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
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TBF winning is just fun in itself so maybe she did crush them all for fun?

They don't call her The Iron Lady for nothing.

hakimashou has issued a correction as of 01:57 on May 14, 2017

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Baloogan posted:

so whats the polls look like?

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/863492244300550145

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Baloogan posted:

Why bother calling for an early election if nothing really is going to change? (Guessing the numbers in brackets are ridings flipping)

Nah the numbers in brackets are change since the last poll a few days ago.

In terms of seats flipping estimates are 50-150 flipping from to the conservatives.

Could be way more, labour got slaughtered in the local elections a week ago.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Baloogan posted:

excellent, and of course corbyn will not resign even after that.

A lot of his supporters think he can't fail, only be failed by the Parliamentary Labour Party and the media.

He's rapidly becoming british ron paul.

hakimashou has issued a correction as of 06:21 on May 14, 2017

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
Maybe don't pick a noted terrorist sympathizer as party leader next time labour.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
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Corbyn has hired a known communist to head his election campaign.

https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/863861261720748033

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
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Apparently it's come out that Corbyn is a quisling that denounces and opposes NATO.

Get hosed corbyn.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Agnosticnixie posted:

Yes, how could you be uneasy at being part of a club that dubbed itself the free world despite three of its members being dictatorships for a chunk of its existence.

man that was a sickass :iceburn: agnosticnixie

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
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Badger of Basra posted:

i understand how reversing course on neoliberalism and going back to old labour re: economic policies is supposed to win back voters lost to ukip, but how is opposing nato supposed to do that

Corbyn is completely tone-deaf.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

get that OUT of my face posted:

i remember after the brexit vote happened, there was analysis that said that the Good Friday agreement could be in trouble because of it. has anything come of that?

The Northern Ireland government had an election and was unable to form a governing coalition back in february or march. They got several deadline extensions but IIRC its now on hold with the snap general election.

If they can't form a governing coalition then they will return to direct rule by westminster.

No one knows what the implications of brexit will be for the irish border. It's entirely possible that NI will be under direct rule and also that hard borders with customs controls will be erected between NI and Ireland proper due to the brexit.

If that's the case, there won't be much of the good friday agreement left in force.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Sinn Fein is gonna win the next election.

They're not going to have their man in 10 downing though.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Badger of Basra posted:

this is a bit much imho

NK is so bad because of how like the USSR it is.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
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Communism is the worst idea people have ever had.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
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Vicious political repression, famine, gulags, secret police, bellicosity.

In what ways is it not like the USSR?

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
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Hodgepodge posted:

north korean communism has less to do with communism than china's does

if you feel strongly about north korea, you should learn about it:

https://www.mhpbooks.com/books/the-cleanest-race/

My fav NK book is Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader but its been years since I read it.

Anyway its not hard to draw parallels between Kim's communist totalitarian hell and Stalin's.

Most of the bad stuff about NK was also bad about the USSR.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Baloogan posted:

the british empire was 'bad' (but not exceptionally so, and english law is the basis for the world's law) but it gets serious points for being so cool and paving the way for global civilization overall I'd say the british empire was great.

just look at the ex-british colonies and compare them to spanish/etc colonies.

They desperately need to promote you to mod of DnD.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
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Hodgepodge posted:

it's not hard to draw parallels, but that does not yield any relevant insight

and you haven't even bothered to try. not that i want you to; this isn't loving d&d

What are the bad things about North Korea?

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Hodgepodge posted:

i, for one, am looking forward to the day when enlightened neo-barons patiently explain to their serfs that while democracy may sound like a good idea, it lead to the horrors of american slavery

Someone in the UK DnD thread earlier today was posting about how the the US Constitution was a terrible thing because it allows slavery.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Badger of Basra posted:

i know you think that's a good thing but a lot of people have finally agreed that's bad

The US fought the bloodiest war in its history to end slavery. More americans died fighting over slavery than in all the other wars we've fought put together.

Why didn't the british fight a civil war to end the british empire? Were brits just not as good people as Americans?

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Fallen Hamprince posted:

the us constitution doesn't allow slavery (any more) but it's bad for other reasons, many of them a product of how old it is

Crazy DnDers pointed out that it it "allows slavery" as punishment for a crime.

IE, allows for imprisonment.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
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It really is a shame Corbyn couldn't have just gone on being a nice eccentric old backbencher cool dude.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

MikeCrotch posted:

That's her MPs

The press are just terrified of an actual socialist because that's a much bigger threat to them than naked nationalism

Do these socialists plan to clamp down on freedom of the press?

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Fallen Hamprince posted:

why the gently caress to british people care about fox hunting

I tried to figure that out in the DnD thread but the new mod wouldn't let me talk about it anymore :(

Best I can figure its something only "rich people" do so it its banned out of spite.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
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Anyway after May wins she's gonna legalize it again it looks like.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Uncle Wemus posted:

Is may gonna win

Sure looks that way.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
The way I see it, hunting the fox is the most british thing there is.

Many brits don't seem to realize that their magnificent rural country culture is their last remaining national treasure.

It turns out that opinion polling on fox hunting is split about 80/20, which is almost exactly the same as the urban/rural split.

Issues like fox hunting should be devolved to rural leaders to decide, it doesn't concern city people.





It's the soul of britain.

hakimashou has issued a correction as of 00:20 on May 17, 2017

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hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
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try it they will sic those vast packs of little dogs on you

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