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Timeless Appeal posted:The whole point of the end is that Gloria actually is an impressive human being while Oscar can only feel good when he makes someone else feeling like poo poo. If she was to know with certainty that going to Korea would work then she's just winning by out-muscling him. She doesn't win because she's stronger than him. She wins because she's brave and takes a chance. You're on crack. Gloria was just as broken at the end as evidenced by the reaction to the beer in the close. It was beautiful with no one really learning anything except "keep running". Stop trying to jam it into your political narratives. 
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"Force to be reckoned with". I frigging hate anti-feminist MRA fucks as much as the next person, but seeing this type of poo poo shoehorned into a review misses the point like a polar opposite of the Rex Reed take. Leave my beautiful, broken toys alone, politics.
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May 7, 2017 17:33
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My apologies then, let me explain myself: With the broken people flailing about, it's hard to ignore that alcoholism as the drumming back beat of this movie. It drives all of their worst moments. Makes them do things they wouldn't have done if they'd had an emotional presence that wasn't being actively medicated. The movie rides out on that bit. It's important. With that as preface, what we have are people behaving terribly to each other. Preying on one another. I think we've all had this experience, watching a series of car crashes in slow motion. If there's anything that is the underlying theme in their personal lives, it's that Oscar and Gloria refuse to take responsibility for themselves. Right to the bitter end. Of course it ended with her crushing him with a Kaiju. That's the only way it could end. You need to nuke that poo poo. Back to my point, that poo poo ain't something I'd raise my daughter to be. So I'd be a damned fool if I called it "empowerment" when I know those broken bastards in real life. Great movie. Sudekis is my new boyfriend.
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May 9, 2017 02:38
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Timeless Appeal posted:I think part of your original response was because some of the language I used sort of hinted at Gloria being a role model which wasn't really my intent. The film does purposefully film her like a superhero and provide audio and visual cues that make her comparable to the kaiju. I get your point, however it's also explicit in the movie that she was leading him on by instinct from her party life. Relinquishing of responsibility in the haze of alcohol. Then the scene where she literally cemented her place, she undercuts her self by getting drunk and using that as an excuse to sleep with McHandsome. That's her thread. Oscar, however, is a completely different kind of broken. An emotional predator who uses a friendly demeanor to reel people in and then preys on other's weaknesses to thrive. True sociopath and I tend to agree with the reviews that point-out the emotional similarities to our friend Patrick Bateman. Bring the metaphor back towards Kaiju. Two massive, self-absorbed egos clashing, with the literal sound of whole world cheering in the background. Trauma through emotional terrorism, exemplified by a literal line in the sand moment. Then the lighting of the gigantic gently caress-all roman candle of doom in his own bar to show how much control he had over Gloria. Lines blur as the stakes get higher and higher. And it was only by running away that she allowed herself a win. And then there's the bottle and an "....eh, why not?" and we're going forward with a sequel. Romantic Kaiju Thriller, genres melted all together like a nice fondu. With chunks and alcoholism In conclusion, get the s'more dessert at the fondu restaurant. SpeakSlow fucked around with this message at 04:24 on May 9, 2017 |
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May 9, 2017 04:18
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