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echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
in my city

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Elder Postsman
Aug 30, 2000


i used hot bot to search for "teens"


"our suburbs will be better to live in"

no thanks, shut it all down.

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
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there are no better alternatives to suburbs fyi

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Gazpacho posted:

there are no better alternatives to suburbs fyi

actually there are

communist block housing for everyone

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
you know medium density is a thing right? we don't need to chose between only mcmansions on 40' lots and 30-storey apartment blocks

see: every european city

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

infernal machines posted:

you know medium density is a thing right? we don't need to chose between only mcmansions on 40' lots and 30-storey apartment blocks

see: every european city

regulating lot sizes to be sensible sounds like socialism to me

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
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Lol. @ people thinking that suburbs = "McMansions everywhere"

Like a defining feature of McMansions is that they combine cheapness with unaffordability. They're not a mass product. Report to mcmansionhell.com for education

pram
Jun 10, 2001
mcmansion has basically come to mean any suburban house

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe

pram posted:

mcmansion has basically come to mean any suburban house

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-sQSp5jbSQ

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Gazpacho posted:

Lol. @ people thinking that suburbs = "McMansions everywhere"

Like a defining feature of McMansions is that they combine cheapness with unaffordability. They're not a mass product. Report to mcmansionhell.com for education

pretty much all modern american housing is mcmansions though to some extent

as large as possible wood framed houses taking up almost the entire lot, even townhouses now are enormous pieces of poo poo with two car garages and no basements

american houses are very cheaply and poorly constructed to maximize interior space to the determine of everything else

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

new houses are overwhelmingly terrible

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
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suck it seeger, doelger houses are actually good

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
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the US and canada have acheived something that no other western hemisphere country has, in that their cities are ringed with code-compliant and infrastructure-served housing rather than massive ramshackle slums

also the annihilation of native peoples

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005


this is a good level of density, just needs decent public transportation and less cars

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
eh, those are mostly single family dwellings i think. lowrise would be preferable.

but yeah, way too much space for cars. take a lane each way for a tram with stops at each major intersection

pram
Jun 10, 2001
gas

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe

napalm

Doom Mathematic
Sep 2, 2008
I self-drive my car.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

is all that's left of a suburban home after a thorough nuking

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde

infernal machines posted:

eh, those are mostly single family dwellings i think. lowrise would be preferable.

but yeah, way too much space for cars. take a lane each way for a tram with stops at each major intersection
there is a tram four blocks to the left and another six blocks to the right

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Gazpacho posted:

there is a tram four blocks to the left and another six blocks to the right

that's a good start

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?
computer janitors opine on how people must live

Jimmy Carter
Nov 3, 2005

THIS MOTHERDUCKER
FLIES IN STYLE
tiny house obviously

burning swine
May 26, 2004



The Management posted:

computer janitors opine on how people must live

i live comfortably inside my lian-li case

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

The Management posted:

computer janitors opine on how people must live

ideally everyone should live in a glasgow-style tenement block for efficiency

not me though

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

pram posted:

mcmansion has basically come to mean any suburban house

that is because the middle class has been hollowed out too badly for most people to buy a brand new tract home

the early tract houses, in today's money, cost around $400/mo. that's not really a market anyone is interested in catering to in tyool 2017. the mcmansions are what's left

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Gazpacho posted:

there are no better alternatives to suburbs fyi

a population-decimating plague, hth

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

there is nothing good nor desirable about the modern American suburb

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?

Bloody posted:

there is nothing good nor desirable about the modern American suburb

lol

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
on the one hand, suburbs are horrible places that depend on private vehicle ownership and result in atomization and conspicuous consumption

on the other hand, cities are environmentally catastrophic and utterly unsustainable

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Bloody posted:

there is nothing good nor desirable about the modern American suburb

:yeah:

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde

Bloody posted:

there is nothing good nor desirable about the modern American suburb
- reasonable commute distance
- don't have to huff piss odor

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Gazpacho posted:

- reasonable commute distance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk2YRpLnmdU

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Stymie posted:

on the other hand, cities are environmentally catastrophic and utterly unsustainable

compared to what? hunter-gatherer societies?

is agrarianism sustainable?

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

infernal machines posted:

compared to what? hunter-gatherer societies?

is agrarianism sustainable?

a society made up entirely of blue-collar laborers who live in their work trucks and use laptops that only have magnetic spinny disks

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

infernal machines posted:

compared to what? hunter-gatherer societies?

is agrarianism sustainable?

i dunno, gosh maybe a stable balance between urban sprawl that wrecks the environment and teeters on a knife edge of sustainability and the hyper isolated suburban sprawl that keeps people driving everywhere and speaking to nobody

maybe some sort of... communal living... where resources are shared and people aid each other mutually...

some sort of communal-ism

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

infernal machines posted:

compared to what? hunter-gatherer societies?

is agrarianism sustainable?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_ecology here's one

edit:

Stymie posted:

i dunno, gosh maybe a stable balance between urban sprawl that wrecks the environment and teeters on a knife edge of sustainability and the hyper isolated suburban sprawl that keeps people driving everywhere and speaking to nobody

maybe some sort of... communal living... where resources are shared and people aid each other mutually...

some sort of communal-ism

quoting the gently caress out of stymie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communalism_(political_philosophy)

(the two go together)

atomicthumbs fucked around with this message at 10:03 on Apr 24, 2017

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?
watching thread jump off the rails and into an active volcano

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Mar 27, 2010
Probation
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Gazpacho posted:

- reasonable commute distance
- don't have to huff piss odor

- have to drive everywhere
- stuck in a maze with surbanites :stonk:

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