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Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

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Aggressively bad, alt-right, mush-mouthed YouTuber "The Atheist Gamer" (the guy who doxxes preteen girls, hates women (except for those demure Asian women, you see), and made a video about how making GBS threads your pants is a normal thing for a twenty-something to do) makes a video about how his subscribers don't support him enough, and maybe if they paid him more money on Patreon he'd finally be able to stop living with his mommy.

https://youtu.be/xfq0MJyiV4U

Also he made another video about how he's leaving the skeptic community because he doxxed someone and they got mad, but it's their fault for not being more accepting of him and his radical ideas on feminism (that, for example, "it's bad").

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Verisimilidude
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aware of dog posted:

Uhhh, come again?

I don't remember which one, but in one video he talks about how he shits his pants by accident some times because, you know, that just kinda happens to healthy adults from time to time.

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I wonder what Boogie has to say when some of his followers say things like

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Why is everyone so afraid of this Anita bitch? I say we just hang this bitch upside down by her pussy lips!!

Also lol at people who are afraid of the term "white privilege" literally because it hurts their feelings.

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Al-Saqr posted:

They haven't died down, they just morphed into good old fashioned right wing fascist white nationalist racism in all its forms. They've widened their hit list to muslims, gays, brown people, refugees, Jews, the left as a whole, etc. they've actually become a bigger problem because the mysoginy hasn't decreased it's just become part of their giant poo poo soup instead of all of it. They've become gateway drugs to drag thousands of retard loser shitheads into those ideas.

Yeah, I deleted what I wrote earlier because the idea is absurd and I thought twice, but since you quoted:

It seems like since it morphed into this more tangible form (alt-right) that accepts and proliferates all of these other less-acceptable ideas (racism, virulent misogyny, white supremacy, etc) it has become easier for people to distance themselves from those ideas. At least in my experience, people seem to be stepping away from being so outwardly anti-SJW/anti-feminism because, even though they do support alt-right views, they don't want to be perceived as alt-right themselves.

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Dec 20, 2006

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Dark Souls + Bloodborne are nice games because everyone has their favorite in the series for their own reasons. I had such an amazing time playing DS1 and exploring that world, but I played the poo poo out of DS2. Something about it clicked for me, and I must've put at least a hundred hours into it. Bloodborne was a fantastic experience, and I thoroughly enjoyed the bosses in the DLC. I'm struggling to finish DS3, and I came back after a couple months to finally beat the ancient wyvern, but haven't gotten much further past that. I have seen groups of people defend each and every one of these games, and they are all A+ Good Games You Should Play.

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Quite frankly I don't mentally separate people who pretend to be nazis ironically and people who are actual full-blown nazis. Kill them all, society improves.

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fallenturtle posted:

The "red pill" Laci Green says she took... is that suppose to be the same red pill of reddit infamy?

Yes, which has expanded from its original misogyny into a broader form of white male supremacy.

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Kjoery posted:

speaking of, it seems like the ol' white genocide might be having a little redbranding in the alt-lite spheres:



i think ol' carlgon used this type of language, too. its sort of impressive how evasive these shitheads are in their use of terminology.

Replaced seems like a less accurate word, since it implies an initial usefulness.

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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

That guy you knew who loved American History X

Alternatively, that guy you knew who hated American History X for all the wrong reasons

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Dec 20, 2006

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Ytlaya posted:

Right-wing people thinking NPR is a far-left organization will never cease to amuse me.

It's because they think Right-Wingers are the center and Neo-Liberals are left-wing socialists.

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Mr Interweb posted:

I don't know about that. I feel like the rise of Trump has and will continue to have major effects on the youth voting. Gamers, anime fans, and lovely message board trolls seem like ripe demographics to become tomorrow's Republicans.

Something we have to consider is that A.) the majority of youth in this country are not a part of the hardcore internet gaming regime or lovely message board trolls. And B.) Many of those internet gaming nerds/lovely mb trolls are not necessarily American.

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I live in NYC. My vote literally doesn't matter here, and I find it irritating when self-important people get indignant and mad at me for not caring about Hilary's already landslide victory in my city and thus choosing to not vote at all this election. Swing state? Sure, I'd vote for that awful candidate. Might even personally feel obligated to. But the angrier and more oppressive people become over MY VOTE the less I and many others give a poo poo about the whole process.

"Why didn't you vote my way!!??!!"

Get hosed.

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NikkolasKing posted:

Got some more #fakenews for you guys
https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2017/07/10/here-are-5-video-game-youtubers-you-really-need-to-watch/#4e566df7b309

Hbomb is on his way up in the world. I quite like Sterling, too.

Stuff like this makes me happy since it reaffirms the online community of racists and misogynists are still just a joke in the real world while actual intellectuals have a chance to do some real good.

Wait, so is Hbomb a Good Guy? I've been assuming most if not all video game YT personalities are horrible, and I see his name thrown around a lot.

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JVNO posted:


Yes. And he's a goon too. Occasionally posts here.

Ahh that's where I heard the name! I'll have to check out his videos.

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https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/890588195045421057

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https://twitter.com/ShitpostBot5000/status/894294598092283904

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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

That's an incredulous assumption. Law enforcement has a history with the kkk for example.

And the implication that law enforcement has supported and enforced white supremacy consciously or unconsciously through its application of the law. Are there any examples of law enforcement assisting anti-racists in some manner?

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I was never under the impression that ANTIFA were actively discouraging fascists, and in some cases may well be encouraging some brutish types to get out and get into a fight, but they're certainly not creating fascists. The mentality towards white nationalism already existed, and if they're willing to go to a white supremacist rally and join in the fray, then they probably harbor similar sentiments and also deserve a brick to the face.

ANTIFA is more a result of an awakening in leftists to oppose the creep of fascism, and the numbers show that active ANTIFA outnumber active fascists/white supremacists greatly. A couple emboldened white dudes looking to put a meaning to their unabashed racism shouldn't worry anyone more so than the overall acceptance of defending Nazis in our society.

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khwarezm posted:

I don't think this is fair, I can't recall them ever talking about, say, the Force Awakens putting black or female characters in the lead roles was pandering, they might point out the business concerns that make such things more likely these days though. They can also be perceptive about conservative trends in Hollywood, ie, in the Plinkett review for the 2009 Star Trek movie they pointed out the strange tendencies for male characters who get along very well with other male characters or have somewhat unmasculine traits to be clearly and explicitly given a heterosexual relationship that doesn't serve much purpose other than to shout to the audience 'THIS CHARACTER IS COMPLETELY HETEROSEXUAL, NO GAY STUFF HERE', or as they put it 'A case of the not-gays', their example was Uhura and Spock.

They also constantly mock lovely comedies, but I don't think they've ever mentioned Tyler Perry, instead its usually Adam Sandler and his pals that they target.

RLM tends to speak about the SJW aspect of movies through the cynical lens of "Hollywood is exploiting diversity to make money, and SJWs are giving unfair praise to bad movies because the cast is all minorities", and it's never done from the perspective of "SJWs are bad and those issues don't exist". That Ghostbusters movie was a garbage dump, but the media storm around it elevated it from bland and pointless schlock to having some kind of cultural significance and necessity. The most offensive part was how butt-hurt he and the rest got about their favorite franchise getting another terrible sequel.

Mike has even mentioned things like white/male privilege in earnest in some of his videos.

Rich Evans, if you watch his streams, is more of a typical liberal-centrist. Loves science, hates religion, but also hates talking about politics and it makes him come off as some kind of regressive edgelord sometimes. Regarding SJWs, he tends to hate the messengers but loves the message.

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The ghostbusters video was good and literally just talked about the movie being awful. Made one joke about possibly being called a sexist at no ones expense except maybe crazies who would think being critical of ghostbusters means you hate women.

It's a shame that literal misogynists/altright cling to otherwise good things and taint it with their affection but even Rick and morty has a scene where they explicitly beat the poo poo out of a nazi, and various rlm people have stated on multiple occasions how awesome it is to kill nazis in movies and video games and real life.

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Kjoery posted:

stefan interviewed the :biotruths: memo dude (because, i mean, obviously), and after claiming maximum centrism:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN1vEfqHGro&t=1596s

"virtue signaling" :jerkbag:

Apparently centrism is just a combination of fringe right and center right viewpoints.

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https://youtu.be/U6Q74lLrqcU

Baked Alaska awkwardly hits on and negs a girl on livestream. His followers tell him to grab her by the pussy. He asks for her number, gets rejected, and finds out she's only 13.

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https://twitter.com/ohsohologramic/status/896120075714912258

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Lol the right wing media gets its news from 4chan and gamergate now

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happyhippy posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgccg9xurE8

Sargon is a good laugh this week.
At the start he says he is not Alt-Right, hes a liberal.
Then goes full Alt Right blaming the city and politicans for everything that happened.

when did this shift from "we are proudly right-wing/alt-right" to "I am definitely a classical liberal always have been always will be" happen? Like, Friday?

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I know Total Biscuit is a non-entity because I'm pretty involved in the game journalist sphere and the only time I hear about him is through this thread.

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Dec 20, 2006

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Kjoery posted:

checked out "mundanematt":


wont someone think of the nazis :911:

e: this comments section is normal:



lol at the literal Nazis in that comments section weeping over how they have to start acting like actual terrorists now. :qq:

edit: not to trivialize terrorism, but I think it's funny how they cry about how the left is forcing them to be more violent and more dangerous because no one wants to listen to their rants about white mediocrity.

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Isn't this that one white supremacist guy from the charlottesville thing?

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Nah she doesn't count for some bullshit Nazi apologist reason.

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Measly Twerp posted:

Well that's depressing.

It seems that skeptics need to get more political if they want to stay relevant and have a say where on things that are actually being decided right now. I listen to a bunch of skeptic podcasts still, and they do for the most part stick to those old subjects, and I guess that it's important since there always seems to be either a new face trying to convince people of bullshit, or the old ones never really went away.

There's one "skeptic" podcast I know of that is explicitly political, Cognitive Dissonance, they're also by far more comfortable discussing LGBTQ and other social issues than any of the old guard of podcasts.

I ended up deleting my CD subscription. They're funny, but also pretty limited in their knowledge and scope outside of off-the-cuff skeptical issues. When they're not making fun of easy-target nutjobs by elaborating on what they found on Right-Wing Watch, they're making pretty bog standard neo-liberal talking points. They're also far behind on issues of race, trans issues, and poverty.

I stopped after they brought on Ishmael Brown and they just kept making crude jokes about black guys the entire time. Usually Ish let's it slide but you can tell he was getting annoyed since the topic (BLM I believe) is important to him. It's a trend I saw getting worse and worse on the show since Ish's first guest appearance, and it's something that doesn't happen at all with their white guests. In fact, almost every time they have a black guest they make jokes about black people, and when confronted about it they revert immediately to "people on the left are too quick to call someone a racist".

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Measly Twerp posted:

Ah but don't you know, being ironically racist means you're not actually racist unless you're on the right!

Sigh. That's a valid criticism of the show for sure.

Honestly I think CD and The Scathing Atheist were part of my realization that I am a hardcore leftist. A friend introduced me to both of them back when I was still identifying as a liberal, and I enjoyed the bits where they'd make fun of conservative Christians and crazy religious zealots, but then I'd cringe once they'd start talking about actual political policy. I started internalizing this struggle where I realized I had been nodding along with people I don't actually agree with, because that was the side I had chosen to identify as. I found I would enjoy 60% of the political media I was consuming, but that last 40% was something I had to either ignore or come to terms with, because I could not rectify their lack of insight. It's not to say I identify with everything leftist ancoms have to say, but the division is far less severe than 60/40.

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ChristopherRobin posted:

I saw this shared on Facebook by a family member.


wow I'm an idiot, I meant to share this with the forwards from family thread woops. I guess I'll leave it up for context since people have responded

This reads like a script for a Budweiser commercial.

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[Sam Elliot narrates]

Let this sink in for a minute.....Hundreds and hundreds of small boats pulled by countless pickups and SUVs from across the South are headed for Houston. Almost all of them driven by men. They're using their own property, sacrificing their own time, spending their own money, and risking their own lives for one reason: to help total strangers in desperate need.

Most of them are by themselves. Most are dressed like the redneck duck hunters and bass fisherman they are. Many are veterans. Most are wearing well-used gimme-hats, t-shirts, and jeans; and there's a preponderance of camo. Most are probably gun owners, and most probably voted for Trump.

These are the people the Left loves to hate, the ones Maddow mocks. The ones Maher and Olbermann just *know* they're so much better than.

These are The Quiet Ones. They don't wear masks and tear down statues. They don't, as a rule, march and demonstrate. And most have probably never been in a Whole Foods.

But they'll spend the next several days wading in cold, dirty water; dodging gators and water moccasins and fire ants; eating whatever meager rations are available; and sleeping wherever they can in dirty, damp clothes. Their reward is the tears and the hugs and the smiles from the terrified people they help. They'll deliver one boatload, and then go back for more.

When disaster strikes, it's what men do. Real men. Heroic men. American men. And then they'll knock back a few shots, or a few Bud Lights with like-minded men they've never met before, and talk about fish, or ten-point bucks, or the benefits of hollow-point ammo, or their favorite brew. [lingering shot of burly men in trucker hats laughing and holding ice cold cans of Bud Light]

And the next time they hear someone talk about "the patriarchy", or "male privilege", they'll snort, turn off the TV and go to bed.

In the meantime, they'll likely be up again before dawn. To do it again. Until the helpless are rescued. And the work's done.

They're unlikely to be reimbursed. There won't be medals. They won't care. They're heroes. And it's what they do. And that's why they drink Bud Light. [fade in on dewy can of Bud Light as the American Flag waves solemnly in the background]

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I Before E posted:

It is pretty dope.

I read "Joe Rogan" and "offended people" and I expected the worst, but that is actually good?

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aware of dog posted:

https://twitter.com/jamesadamore/status/908016532835287040
Considering he doesn't seem to understand how Google works I can't imagine he was that great at his job. Maybe the problem here, James... is you.

Also his twitter bio: "Nerd centrist interested in open discussions and improving the world by fixing perverse incentive structures. Author of the pro-diversity #GoogleMemo." God what an insufferable prick.

ahh yes, the new hot fallacy all the millenials are using: Appeal to Popular Search Engine Queries

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https://milkleaks.com/

A compilation of Baked Alaska's many self owns

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boner confessor posted:

joss whedon used his cred as a male feminist to repeatedly cheat on his wife. he's definitely a sexual predator, at best he's not an outright rapist or assaulter but he used his position of power to have sex with many women while married which is, charitably, extremely disturbing and sleazy behavior

why anita sarkeesian specifically needs to denounce him, is a mystery that only internet nazis can answer

Right wingers operate almost entirely on "gotcha!" politics.

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In the short-term at least, you can't deny the power of massive physical resistance to Nazis. Rallies since Charlottesville have been pathetic, with each one having sometimes 10 counter-protestors for every Nazi/alt-right/white supremacist/militiaman, and that ratio increases in the counter-protestor's favor every time.

Don't make a space safe for Nazis. All that does is increase the chance they and their Nazi buddies show up to inflict some real harm. Marginalize them, doxx them, do whatever you need to do to keep them and their actions known and public. See Nazis on the street? Contact your local antifa group on twitter. Take pictures, post it on social media immediately with locations. Follow from a distance, and do not engage until you have backup. Take photos of faces, insignia, and any identifiable markings. Tweet/DM them directly to people like Shaun King, antifa groups, any public figure on the left. Treat them like you should a street harasser: make your day about ruining theirs, just as they no doubt have done in the past and will continue to do to countless people in the future.

Hand-wringing and pearl clutching gets us no where. It does literally nothing because violence in the name of white supremacy is already a reality that we have to endure. Physical action against it isn't just the necessary thing to do, it's the morally just thing to do.

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Are there any famous contemporary leftists out there?

I can name maybe five or six contemporary neo-fascists, but not very many leftists in the same vein.

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