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boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

fallenturtle posted:

I think maybe some people are overly analytical regarding cultural appropriation.

this is sort of the blunt "as a white man, I" kind of talk that will get you into arguments. you dont ever have to deal with the negative consequences of cultural appropriation, you only see the beneficial side

think about like, i dont know, male gamer nerds freaking out about fake gamer girls or something, but instead of being pathetic, it's the latest in a very long string of casual and corporate attempts to strip mine your identity so other, more advantaged kids can pretend to be something they're not

fallenturtle posted:

I think when it comes to calling these things out we need to be more careful in recognizing what is natural and unnatural "appropriation", if that makes sense.

i'll be honest - i dont really care what you think. and i'm not saying that to shut down discussion or insult you, i'm saying that opinions like "as a white guy, i just don't get this whole 'racism' thing" are super common and cheap and like a penny on the street i wouldn't bother to pick it up

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boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

fallenturtle posted:

It's true, I don't have to deal with the negative consequences, but as a member of society, a consumer of media, and a potential target audience member to videos like the BBC's, I have a right to be part of the discourse.

"as a white man, i have a right to express my opinion" :jerkbag:

your terminal, relentless cluelessness is why people keep making fun of you itt

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

fallenturtle posted:

I just wish you could see past my skin color, Mr. Boner.

i wish you could too

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
the thing that bugs me is how long winded these fuckers can be. i value brevity and efficient communication, and i start to get annoyed irl if someone is bad at telling a story or if they just start meandering or rambling. like get to the point. i saw that three hour "debate" and i'm like, what are they debating about? who loves to hear themselves talk the most?

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Goon Danton posted:

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > The Youtube Intellectual Mock Thread - (annoying audio warning)

look you dont need to put a disclaimer on the thread that i post itt ok

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

SteelMentor posted:

Where did the lovely manchild hate-on for Postmodernism originate from? (inb4 it turns out it was the actual loving Nazis like a lot of this dumb poo poo).

its just a buzzword that people who think of themselves as rogue academics or outlaw autodidacts love to throw around to explain their divergence with academia

it's a totally meaningless term unless qualified. postmodern what? postmodernism isn't a single coherent field or adjective, it means a bunch of different things - in literature, in philosophy, in architecture, etc. because of the unfortunate habit that people had as describing themselves as "modernist" a few decades ago

but it sounds intellectual and it vaguely means, without qualification, "new things" so you can just sneer out "i disagree with postmodernism" and get other idiots to agree with you

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

fallenturtle posted:

Blaire White attacked in Hollywood (nail broken/drink thrown on her) for wearing MAGA hat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyHB0COkw3s

Of course, this is Blaire White, so for all we know this was staged.

"i'm just going to put this hat on and film myself walking around as an experiment" *heads directly to nearest anti-trump protest*

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Groovelord Neato posted:

imagine being so stupid you think anyone cares about misgendering some dragonkin weirdo that probably exists nowhere but a random tumblr post.

it's part of the increasingly cringey problem of Extremely Online People who spend so much time on internet that they vastly overblow the influence of tumblr dragonkin on society

like, you kind of need to be forced to interact with a wide variety of different people so you can get a sense of what baseline normal is, lest you think that it's normal to have an opinion on gamergate or the color of sonic's arms

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Yardbomb posted:

The sad thing is that if any of these turds were trying to make an argument in good faith (And with better timing obviously), there could be a real discussion about like, getting pedophiles help and trying to push a program for therapy or something, instead of conditioning them to hide it and let it fester until they unfortunately get a chance to act. But then at the same time I guess that'd also require the US to be a country that cares about mental health at all so.

is it even a mental health issue to be a pedo? human sexuality is weird, but weird on a spectrum - there's heterosexuality, which makes total sense from a mammalian biological standpoint, then there's homosexuality, which seems to not make sense but does if you think about it in terms of social behavior (despite the statements of libertarians, humans are tremendously social animals) and then you start getting into odder sexual behavior like kinks and fetishes which deviate from or complicate sort of vanilla sexual behavior

so, is pedophilia a mental illness? or is it a disorder, in that you ended up having one of the worst possible sexual kinks, one that can't ever be acted on and for which the only real recourse is the elimination of your sex drive lest you harm others?

the point of my question here is, i'm not even sure what you can do with a pedo except use chemicals and surgery to turn off their sexuality entirely. like i don't think there's therapy for it beyond learning to cope with the fact that you will never have the kind of sex you want to have

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

JVNO posted:

I invite someone who knows better to correct me on this, but I believe pedophilia has stronger roots in power fetishization than your average ephebophile. I have some background in sexual psychology, but not abnormal.

yeah, i dunno if we even know enough about how kinks and fetishes form to be able to untangle the causes of pedophilia let alone come up with an effective treatment aside from what is essentially amputation

probably sexualizing children and overly worshiping the power and beauty of youth in our society probably doesn't help though

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Avenging_Mikon posted:

Isn't one of the criteria of mental illness is it has a negative impact on your life? Pedophilia definitely has a negative impact. We aren't, and may never be able to cure it, but there's gotta be some way to lessen the problem.

a disorder does, an illness doesn't

that's why gender identity disorder is in the DSM, because there's bad impacts from everyone treating you like the gender you're "supposed" to be, instead of the gender you claim to be. and the treatment is easy: live your truth. also why this disorder can vary culturally, because some cultures are harder on gender roles than others, and some cultures have built in mechanisms to handle nonbinary gender

there's a lot of overlap between disorder and illness, and i wouldn't be able to speak on the nuance

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

OwlFancier posted:

So a dude got banned from twitter and took to the streets and fast food places, rambling nonesense into a video camera while looking like a homeless man who fell into a trendy sunglasses store?

I don't think I could possibly be That Online.

he has pretty serious personality issues if he melted down that hard about getting banned from twitter

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

vseslav.botkin posted:

Dude was getting donations in chat the whole time; this is great for his brand and even better if Twitter chickens out and lets him back on.

it may be great for his brand, but "throws a tantrum about being banned from twitter and hassles people in a parking lot about twitter ethics" is a brand which is not good for his psyche

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
i'll have you know that i am the pre-eminent feces eating critic and reviewer on reddit, sir, so i know a bit what i'm talking about when i say this steak is well. done.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
i feel like this is edging into an argument about people being prudes if they think it's sleazy to use halfass camgirls to sell let's play sites

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
i'm not so concerned about kids seeing tits so much as i am the inherent laziness of just slapping tits on a screen to sell some dumb thing and how that should be ejected from society

twitch needs to meet a higher standard than "come play my lord" lovely chinese knockoff f2p games

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Glagha posted:

If some ladies wanna get more clicks by wearing low cut tops, more power to 'em, and I'm not gonna shame people for doing camsite poo poo or whatever. Maybe Twitch should moderate people advertising porn on their channels but other than that it seems like a lot of moralizing and "not real gamers" poo poo.

putting breasts on a screen to paper over some mediocre thing is absolutely real gamer poo poo

that is the problem

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Glagha posted:

We can talk all day about personal agency vs. objectification or whatever but I figure if you wanna bring people in by showing off for the stream or whatever, that's up to you.

twitch doesn't need to encourage that though. i dont know how they would implement a policy to prevent this tendency for game streaming to crossover into knockoff porn for thirsty nerds but if gaming wants to be 'legitimate' the platforms which aspire to that level of validity need to be better than basically the seedy gas station that sells skin mags

Who What Now posted:

Slapping tits on something is 99% of all advertising that exists, my dude. You're gonna have to chuck out all of society before that goes away. It's not great, but it's not a problem unique to twitch or even one that Twitch suffers from more than anyone else. Focusing on them is asinine.

do you think this argument is convincing in a forum which is basically just a collective gripe session about all the ways in which society should be better, but wont be?

if all you have to offer is "but society sucks tho and wont ever get better" maybe keep this brilliant insight to yourself?

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Guavanaut posted:

It's also not a criticism of twitch streamers who just happen to be attractive and wear low cut tops.

you could work within their incentives there if they are a camgirl vs. just an attractive streamer, because camgirls don't really want to attract a bunch of minors as minors generally dont have money

even steam lets you filter out all the dumb anime porn games if you dont want to see that crap

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Who What Now posted:

The hell they aren't. Maybe yours, specifically, aren't, but don't pretend like the ones that started this derail (you know, the arguments about how Twitch is a platform for kids that is being corrupted by those awful sexy women) aren't real. They're literally on the last page.

nobody's going to take your camgirls away thirsty nerd, we're just saying twitch is probably the wrong platform for it if it wants to be a "serious" gamer site

you don't always have to put tits on everything to make it interesting

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Monglo posted:

The existence of a person who trolls on the internet, but doesn't hold the views he's portraying doesn't seem that impossible to me. Is having a non-black/white worldview that difficult for you?

there's really very little difference between advocating a point ironically or sincerely, since all people know about you on the internet are the points you advocate. or the old "i only poo poo myself to trick you into thinking i'm a pants shitter" argument

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Frogfingers posted:

Is this taking advantage of him though? Depending just how autistic he is he may not realize that standing on a soapbox isn't necessarily endearing...

he may or may not actually be autistic, as he hasn't been diagnosed before so if he was it must not have been that noticable. and anyway it's likely that he's not mildly autistic or whatever, he's just a huge rear end in a top hat and reaching for excuses to deny the reality of his being a huge rear end in a top hat

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Mr Interweb posted:

How come there's very few youtube videos (and hell, even articles) out there debunking Jordan Peterson? He's been in the shitlord spotlight for a while now, but there's hardly anything on him from the Left.

unlike most twentysomething basement dwellers he's a real irl person with a real degree and real credentials who has real poo poo opinions so he's not going to get baited out by a three hour detailed takedown on vimeo or whatever. like he pisses into the void of youtube bullshit, and the void can't really piss back

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Guavanaut posted:

gently caress me, is there anything that isn't Neo-Marxism to these people?

no, they want to whine about kids these days but being largely millenials that means they have to complain about actual children

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Measly Twerp posted:

Like, how do you even get there.

axiomatic hatred of "regulations" while ignoring that literally all of society is, in fact, regulations

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

business hammocks posted:

I am concerned about his influence. I work with a high-school-aged gay republican who idolizes Milo and I think it’s because the kid’s a double-outcast in that republicans won’t accept him for being gay and none of his peers accept him because he’s a republican. So he sees a disgusting shitbag like Milo as a kindred spirit. That’s a problem.

young alienated white guys have always liked loud iconoclasts. it used to be rock stars, now it's political has beens. he'll probably grow out of his teenage shithead stage when life throws a real problem in his face and he's forced to consider the benefits of social interaction and empathy

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

noether posted:

this is far and away the worst stupid avatar any of these guys use holy poo poo

i dunno, it's pretty normal to use a, uh *squints* head of lettuce hastily spray painted black

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

noether posted:

I'm always impressed by how NBS is able to express absolutely stupid thoughts with complete and utter certainty. it's like a superpower or something

all white men have this power

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
ah i see jontron is in his post "racist piece of poo poo" career rebuilding phase and he's regurgitating internet pop culture knowledge like found footage videos to his audience of naive children

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXivpclxftM

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boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

fallenturtle posted:

Speaking of dark souls, have any of you checked out this 4 hour clusterfuck of a bunch of skeptics + Destiny vs Amos Yee?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foutPY888vc

My favorite part is when Destiny lectures the skeptics on how to properly debate.

Amos Yee thinks bathing children and changing diapers is a sexual act. Clearly he's never had to try to get poo poo off a 2 year old's penis.

is this everyone in terms of people who think it's interesting to say opinions into a camera, or the more expansive everyone who disagrees with yee's pro-pedophilia stance

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