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LanceHunter posted:Ta-Nehisi Coates has some writing about how moving to France made him realize that people can be economically socialist and still be very racist and nativist, which can be very odd to someone from the US. There was a Vox article a couple of months ago that demonstrated that generous welfare states do almost nothing to stop racism from thriving just fine.
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NikkolasKing posted:Yeah, my bad. I thought this Notch guy was somehow involved in GG so I kind of ran the two things together in my post. I have played a bit of Minecraft but I never knew anything about the guy who made it. That was a good vid. I think I was familiar with this dude in the past with his Suicide Squad video. He's good people.
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Lovechop posted:i found that bit i was saying about How is this rear end in a top hat considered to be on "the left" again? Groovelord Neato posted:i want to murder myself now that i know rubin makes $336,000 a year. loving hell 
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I watched more of that Destiny v. Sargon video and Sargon argues for like ten minutes about Destiny using the word "representation", used in the context of describing percentages of a group of people in some area (in this case, the growing percentage of women in engineering fields). Sargon does not like that word "representation" because he doesn't think the women in this fields actually "represents" women like say, a member of the House of Representative "represents" people in their district. I mean, in the context that Destiny was using it, it was a completely fair and valid use of the word, but Sargon just kept getting triggered every single time he used it. This poo poo is on the "well, Abraham Lincoln was a REPUBLICAN, libtards!" level of useless argumentation.
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So I've been watching more of that Destiny v. Sargon vid (it's a very long video), and although I like Destiny, I do have to somewhat question his beliefs of the economic benefits of mass immigration. He knows that doing so will increase the labor supply, which will in turn lower wages, but seems to think it's okay because we'll be able to get cheaper products and goods. This seems like a common argument I've seen in libertarian circles. edit: oh dear, Destiny's supporting the idea of sweatshops landgrabber posted:all i've seen that he was in was the destiny vs. jontron vid but i actually liked destiny a good amount. at least for that one (again, never seen another vid of his), it seemed like he was prepared and articulate The jontron "debate" was great. Destiny tried his best to give him MULTIPLE chances to clarify his position to make him seem not racist, and somehow it kept getting worse each time. Mr Interweb fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Jun 17, 2017 |
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What ethnicity is Sargon? He says he's not White, which surprised me.Groovelord Neato posted:they should cut down on their massive r&d budget since it seems to have only got us a new ui. I don't know why they did that. The old one looked and worked just fine. This new one keeps telling me I have a notification, even though I keep checking it and nothing shows up! 
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Jun 19, 2017 01:24
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Kokoro Wish posted:
I just saw that debate, and Sargon's he was even more obnoxious than he was when he was debating Destiny. He kept accusing Michael of being part of the "regressive left', along with Ezra Klein, and Glenn Greenwald, without ever bothering to define what that means as Michael kept pointing out for nearly an hour. It's amazing how loving smug that douchebag is. My favorite bit was at the end: Michael: Do you think we need a White history month? Sargon: Of course not, that would be absurd. Michael: Oh okay, good. For a sec, I thought you were gonna say something stu... Sargon: ..I also don't think we should have a Black history month. Michael: Okay, why should we not have a Black history month? Sargon: Because it's racist! You are aware of MLK's famous quote about judging on character and not skin color, are you not?  Michael: You are aware that MLK supported Affirmative Action, right? Sargon: I already knew that. But what does that have to do with anything?  Michael: 
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Contra made a good, but pretty overlooked point when it comes to the whole free speech issue. The people who always seem to complain about that stuff always seem to only care when it's about curtailing certain people's right to attack - well, let's not complicate it - minorities. When you make a thousand videos on how it's the height of tyranny that some shithead is not allowed to talk about how gay people aren't equal to heterosexuals at a college campus, and yet make hardly a peep at say, state laws banning protests, it's not that difficult to figure out what you really seem to support.
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Jun 21, 2017 05:47
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Stephen Crowder put up a "rebuttal" to John Oliver's recent episode on coal.
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business hammocks posted:Is he the one who had never kissed a woman prior to his wedding? Surely worth our time to discuss. Yeah sure, but it's not like this guy is any dumber than someone like Sargon or any of the other alt-fighters with YouTube channels.
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mojo1701a posted:I know this is weird, but that might be the best image of Carl I've ever seen. Like, he looks normal, just hanging out, instead of whatever the image he always tries to present on camera. You think so? He seems to come off pretty meek and beta imo.
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SteelMentor posted:Honestly, the warning signs were kinda there. Before this I'd only ever hear of her because she said some dumb White Feminism/TERFy bullshit that usually ended with some mealy-mouthed apology. Wait, is that chick Laci Greene?(sp) Mr Interweb fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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Tesseraction posted:Laci Green, yeah. Wait, isn't she supposed to be a feminist? Or am I confusing her with someone else?
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:delete that turd from this world Atlas Shrugged or The Watchmen?
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ungulateman posted:Snyder's 'dream project' is the fountainhead, not atlas shrugged Not to defend(?) Snyder, but one can be a devout Christian fundamentalist and adore Atlas Shrugged without being an objectivist (see: Paul Ryan).
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NikkolasKing posted:https://twitter.com/DickCoughlan/status/878047683130294272 I bet that must have felt cathartic. Btw, it's kinda funny how these New Atheists or Rationals or whatever the hell they call themselves, eventually wound up being on the same side as the religious fundamentalists when it comes to women. They both seem to hate women, but hate them for different reasons.
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Zedd posted:She started reaching out/wanting to debate antifeminists. Now she seems to be going further into that club, also she's dating ChrisRayGun She's dating ChrisRayGun? One of the shittiest gamergaters out there? Sounds like she decided to cash in on that demographic.
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Archer666 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsZgkTZZiCk What a whiny, little bitch.
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Sargon's such a piece of poo poo. I tried to see some videos he did on Anita to see if he never encouraged her to be attacked by his minions, which, in the most technical sense, is true, in that he has never explicitly told his idiot fanbase: "Hey, go out and send Anita rape and death threats". What he does do, however, is basically say that, yeah, some people might have said some bad things, but only because they're just so gosh darn angry at her! It's not their fault she gets an incredibly negative reaction from thousands of shitlords whenever she speaks. This was in the very first youtube search: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eQW-NvtAEs It's a 20+ minute long video, but here are the main points: - we should ignore some of these comments because they're from Twitter accounts that have very few followers - we should ignore some of these comments because they're not explicitly threats. - okay, some of these threats are kinda bad, but seriously, she brought it on herself and kinda totally deserves it - Anita, or if we're being generous, one of her radical followers created a fake shooting threat at one of her speaking appearances so that Anita could cash in from all the sympathy afterwards - Anita can't truly be bothered by the alleged constant and vicious harassment because she actually appears happy sometimes (Sargon posted a picture of her posing with Joss Whedon, as proof of...something). - Anita is somehow simultaneously widely popular and also completely ineffectual in promoting the feminist ideals that she allegedly wants to achieve. - Anita doesn't seem to care about either gaming or women in general, but is just in it for the money And this is all from ONE video. God knows what else one could find swimming through the hundreds of hours of poo poo he's been spewing about Anita since 2014.
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Groovelord Neato posted:dear lord this nobullshit guy might be dumber than jonathon tronathon. Just saw him debate Destiny, and holy poo poo...
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Kokoro Wish posted:You know, I wanted to like Destiny and was perusing his vids, but then he had to go and put one up arguing against a living minimum wage (not that $15 should actually be considered that) and my eyes just glazed the gently caress over. Yeah, that's definitely disappointing. Still, I have to give Destiny credit for probably being the first real life, actual, down the middle, libertarian type person. He actually does seem to be socially liberal and fiscally conservative, and not actually using that term to hide the fact that he's just a bog standard Republican who doesn't want to call himself that. He actually seems to care about race issues in the country and thinks it's actually important to note how history and structural issues play into the problems we have today. That's pretty impressive.
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Neeksy posted:I think it mostly demonstrates that the basis upon which she holds a given ideal is whether she is given positive affirmation, rather than personally-held principles or ideas arrived to through informed reason. I can't believe Samantha Bee fell for that bullshit conversion.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:but as history major  Sup fellow history major
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NikkolasKing posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyXhdzgGOSc I actually just saw that myself, an hour ago. Any "progressive" who believes in even the possibility of Seth Rich being murdered by the DNC/HIllary deserves to be kicked in the teeth. And he tries to slither out of it by saying he was "just asking questions". gently caress off.
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:Yeah people get shot in the back of the head at 4am for no real reason Really? We're really gonna do this?
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Isn't Maddox a libertarian? This is fairly - if not sadly- unsurprising.
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Kjoery posted:Jumped to a random point, and yup - I like how these hacks just let him say this poo poo I just got home and actually watched the video with your timestamp, and I have to say, Maddox, to his credit, actually does push back quite a bit. I don't know if that's his own views, or if was playing devil's advocate, but he did make an attempt to argue for the other side. Also, LOL @ Sargon saying that institutional racism doesn't exist because there's no law that says policeman HAVE TO arrest black people.
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Ratoslov posted:Maybe black people don't commit more crimes, maybe they're just worse at it. Like, genetically incompetent at criminal enterprise. That NoBullshit guy literally said that the reason Blacks get arrested more is because they're too dumb and careless and thus get caught easier (he used the examples of smoking joints out in the open and making their guns visible from their pockets).
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Kjoery posted:Did he, though? His response seemed pretty freakin' softball to me. If someone makes a claim as absurd and blatantly false as "All minorities are lying about discrimination in order to Keep The White Man Down", you press that motherfucker hard. Maybe I didn't watch long enough, but jesus christ. I thought it was okay. I mean, yeah he was definitely a bit meek about it, but he did make a (pretty fair, imo) attempt. Maybe I was expecting a worse performance. Symbolic Butt posted:Nah, Maddox is mostly liberal even if he doesn't like to admit it. He used to be like "both sides are wrong" but mostly sided with "conservatives are wrong". He had a fallout with his former cohost Dick Masterson. There was a clear ideological conflict between them: Dick was a libertarian and a huge Trump supporter. Who's that other rear end in a top hat in that linked video?
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Gamergate is still so goddamned weird to me. For sake of argument, even if we agree that it ostensibly has something to do with "ethics in journalism", what the gently caress does that have to do with Anita Sarkeesian? She just posts critiques about social and cultural themes in video games. What does she have to with...really, anything?
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Torchlighter posted:No but see, she's in cahoots with the games journalism sites that wrote 'attack pieces' on gamer's. It's exactly the same as the 1980's Satanic panic and the, IDK, the left version of Jack Thompson? Yeah, they're trying to get it so that only their games are being created and they're responsible for Bayonetta almost not getting a sequal, and if they had their way I'll never get good games like Bayonetta or Dead or Alive or Senran Kagura. It doesn't matter that the movement immediately gets used as a shield by people who are legit misgynists or used as a deliberate attempt to shut down any critisism or that people I don't like get death threats, because the people doing that aren't gamergate, despite the only qualifier being saying you are in gamergate! It doesn't matter that we're literally shooting ourselves in the foot, destroying any attempt to treat games like art, and also destroying any goodwill games journalism had to the consumers which might have incentivised games media being actually good and on our side, no we're going to call them hacks, hold them to higher standards than the New York Times and consistently call them shills while never giving them a dime or reason to stop taking funding from the video game companies that are mostly after our money. The funny thing is, if GG actually WAS about "ethics in games journalism", a lot of us would most likely be totally on board. There IS corruption in the industry (as with any other) involving poo poo like collusion, pay-to-play, and all that other fun stuff. But as with every other aspect of culture and society, the Left and Right are in totally separate universes when it comes to what they define as "corruption". For the Left, it's the aforementioned issues. For the Right, its' some random blogger/youtuber that says that hey, maybe we should allow female characters in games to wear something beyond a battle bikini.
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Great Metal Jesus posted:Meanwhile, in glorious redpilled libertopia... Wait, how are we supposed to read that? The feminazi gloats, then she looks depressed, and THEN she looks at the dude with the waifu pillow?
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I saw another debate video with Destiny and Sargon, and holy poo poo, Sargon is SIGNIFICANTLY dumber than I gave him credit for. The subject of the welfare state came up, which was in the context of why Black people are so goddamned lazy. Sargon, despite claiming to be "liberal" on the idea of a social safety net, nonetheless thinks it should be scaled back because according to him, too people are taking advantage of it. How many people? Sargon didn't go into specifics, but he wanted to assure Destiny (as well as the audience) that it was A LOT. And what study or report did he use to come to this conclusion? His own life experience! See, Sargon knows "lots" of people who take advantage of welfare, and that's pretty much the end of that. Case closed. Forever. Maybe I shouldn't be surprised, but I still was. Sargon's a dummy, but he's also pretty much the intellectual head of the MRA movement. As such, I would figure he would at the very least resort to some bullshit study from some right-wing think tank like the Heritage Foundation, or hell, even Breitbart. But no, he just straight up offered nothing but anecdotal evidence and thought that was more than enough to prove his point. Like, loving seriously dude? Seriously?
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BillBear posted:Sargon probably was expecting Rogan to just let him off the hook like Rubin does with his guests, he isn't used to being called out for his bullshit. Can't wait to see Sargon's subsequent video including Rogan as a card carrying member of the regressive left.
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Dreylad posted:the reaction after he bullied crowder (and apologized for it) on air was for people to call rogan a pot junkie He made Crowder feel bad?
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happyhippy posted:Its up right now, havent watched it all yet, but its mostly about Vidcon. The Rogan stuff is at the end. What did he say about Rogan? edit: oh wait, you said you didn't see it. Dammit.
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Somebody said a little while back that Rogan is like Trump in that he basically agrees with the last person he spoke to. I think that's a pretty apt comparison.
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