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Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer
Dammit, went to buy tickets for the encore but according to Cinemark's site it's sold out?

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Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

CrashCat posted:

Weird, they never sell out here and there's only like two theaters in the area that even show Fathom events. I would just call the theater and ask, or show up if you got nothing better to do.

Yeah I think I'll head down there anyway. Might be a website thing.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Apparently they're just not showing the encore. That's disappointing.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
He'd just left a few years ago and apparently didn't get along with the current producer.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
There's an awful lot of stuff in the script that they obviously couldn't realize properly. Obviously Sarah Jane was supposed to fall off a steep drop into a ditch, but well the stunt person isn't available and we couldn't find a ditch that looked right and you don't want Lis Sladen to hurt herself so, etc. Ditto the "come and see" bit where Susan spots something that's... been in front of them the whole time, I guess they were supposed to come around a bend. Even then I'm given to understand this was a relatively big production for them with all the location filming and the size of the cast.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Also the show was black and white and made on BBC production values, the movies were COLOUR and WIDESCREEN

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
The Christmas Circus one is interesting. I'm from Kansas City, and while Whizzo was probably retired by the time I was growing up, I do recall some local retrospectives mentioning him as the famous local clown show. So that was a fun surprise- and also, clearly a man trying desperately to fill time.

The short film at the start is the best, though.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I thought I was prepared for Fun in Balloonland.

I was not.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Yeah it actually loses steam when the bird attacks start, because the real draw is the awkward renderings of the basics of human interaction.

And suhpals.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Big Mean Jerk posted:

I watched Krull for the first time recently and it was... okay? It's definitely a bad movie, but it's one of the rare ones that's able to hold your attention. Should be decent riff material, especially the dodgy Cyclops mask.

The only real problem- but it's kind of a big one- is that the film's entire second act is basically "the characters try to figure out where the bad guy's fortress will teleport to next." It really feels like the plot isn't moving at all because it's just them looking for directions.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Space Mutiny manages to somehow make less sense in an unedited format.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
It now costs a lot of money to license SFX clips from old TV shows, so it's harder to pull that trick.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

Retro Puppet Master is just... an utterly ill-conceived movie on every level. Like, even aside from the acting blowing chunks, the whole idea of the movie is dumb as hell even by Full Moon/DeCoteau standards and it actively retcons one of the better movies in the franchise.

I've got the Full Moon add-on to my Amazon Prime thing and they, as a studio, have gone HEAVY into A) jokey self-referential poo poo and B) just plain repackaging footage of older movies into "compilations" that are entirely pointless in the age of streaming.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

RandomPauI posted:

How is the new riff, and what's Charlies Secret?

Or is it another Why Won’t Cathy Eat Breakfast situation?

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
See I’ve heard accounts that he didn’t know he was terminal, just was sick, but did it for his grandkids still.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
The basic problem with Krull is how much time is devoted to figuring out exactly where the bad guy’s evil fortress is gonna be.

Solo has the distinction of being the most visually ugly Star Wars movie. It’s so pointlessly murky.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Uncle Wemus posted:

I do love how the beasts castle looks in Krull though



Krull was a very expensive movie (stated budget of $30 million, real budget rumored to be higher.)

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Yeah I'm honestly surprised NatGeo went ahead and aired them because it's basically pointing out how total loving bullshit the show is.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Is this true? Do you suck?

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

muscles like this! posted:

This post is the devil's son!

The part of the movie where it just turns into some crap stand up act is weird.

A lot of low budget movies have this kind of community theater element where it’s like, “I know someone who’s in a band, we can have them play a song in our movie” and to Hell with pacing or a narrative you gotta give your pal this opportunity plus it’ll help fill time right?

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

muscles like this! posted:

The goofiest thing about those movies is how bad the continuity is for something so simple.

Poverty Row was something else- the studios in those days had such a hold on talent and resources that what few independents there were had to take whatever they could get.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
The point of sequels back then was to strike while the iron was hot and amortize the costs by spreading them over a series as long as you could before diminishing returns made it unprofitable.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Blood Waters of Dr. Z is fascinating really. They went all-in on making the villain just this weird creepy guy.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I've seen that before (well, bacon, but same concept.) It's... an odd approach.

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Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Honestly I don't think I have any, because one of the joys of Rifftrax is that even among the current groups of folks doing riffs, they have a knack for finding just the most goddamn baffling poo poo out there. It's always just such a wonderful surprise when they find something like Fun In Balloonland or To Catch A Yeti and you sit there in slack-jawed awe trying to parse out why such a thing even exists.

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