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sexpig by night posted:yea Macron is basically exactly the same as *check notes* the actual neo-nazi, like just a full on fascist white supremacist nationalist more like he's a hillary, and we all saw how that played out in 2016 he might be more anti-immigrant, but maybe not
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except for Trump the issue was he constantly over-performed polls and had that whole 'hidden Trump support' thing going, and Le Pen is performing exactly like polling shows and that's not good for her?
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We saw how well that played out in a country that establishes which regions has votes based on size and where literally 40% of the population would still vote for one of the major parties if they found a way to resurrect Hitler and put him in charge. The terrible banker is leading by nearly 30 points.
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sexpig by night posted:except for Trump the issue was he constantly over-performed polls and had that whole 'hidden Trump support' thing going, and Le Pen is performing exactly like polling shows and that's not good for her?
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Condiv posted:more like he's a hillary, and we all saw how that played out in 2016 She uh, lost by a narrow margin of voters in swing states due to the electoral college after being ahead by a narrow margin in polls He's up 20+ points in polls and is going to win unless something insane happens between now and the final vote or the Clintonistas are right that Vladimir Putin's crack cyber terror squad is now in control of all elections on Earth So I'm not sure how USA 2016 played out is gonna help
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sexpig by night posted:except for Trump the issue was he constantly over-performed polls and had that whole 'hidden Trump support' thing going, and Le Pen is performing exactly like polling shows and that's not good for her? "polling was right this time! that must mean it's fixed and we can trust it again!!" i don't think the guy who's responsible for the PS and current admin being as hated as it is now will show too well against fascist le pen in an election where voters are calling for change
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Condiv posted:"polling was right this time! that must mean it's fixed and we can trust it again!!" Polling was right in the US elections too. They were within the margin of error nationally in November.
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Condiv posted:"polling was right this time! that must mean it's fixed and we can trust it again!!" voters have constantly polled supporting the lovely bank boy much more than the lovely nazi and hell, I'm ok with that. Not HAPPY, but yea stopping the nationalist surge in europe is a good thing.
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Condiv posted:"polling was right this time! that must mean it's fixed and we can trust it again!!" MACRON  WILL WIN
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sexpig by night posted:voters have constantly polled supporting the lovely bank boy much more than the lovely nazi and hell, I'm ok with that. Not HAPPY, but yea stopping the nationalist surge in europe is a good thing. i hope it stops it, but i'm not at all hopeful that the establishment candidate who's had a big hand it why things are how they are in france is gonna do well against an anti-establishment candidate. hillary was polling at certain to win when the primary ended and she still flubbed it to trump, and she wasn't as involved as macron was in the recent hated french admin
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"The fascist candidate won in areas where he polled with razor thin margins of defeat, polling has betrayed me" is the rallying cry of people who don't understand a thing about stats.
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Marcon's platform is MILF Lives Matter
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etalian posted:Marcon's platform is MILF Lives Matter and hell, same.
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Karl Barks posted:lol of cooourse he's a banker It's the only way to make money these days, so yeah. In the future eligibility for public office will be limited to bankers, lawyers, and maaaaybe tech bros.
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I totally agree that Macron is a really lame candidate, it's just that none of the polling reflects the idea that the french voters are eager for his blood and hungry for Le Pen's flavor of 'change'. They're not exactly popping boners for the dude, but in the face of a choice between 'lame kinda poo poo banker' and 'far right nationalist that will do poo poo like try to get out of the EU and thinks colonialism was a good thing for Africa and poo poo' France's voters are going 'yea gently caress I guess give me the banker' by a larger margin than Clinton's polls had her over Trump.
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france brought Christ and the light of Reason to the dark continent and by god they bring it back to paris, too
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someone who knows better, why didn't hamon drop out?
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Does anybody know enough about the culture of the French far right to speculate meaningfully on whether Le Pen's gender is a hindrance, asset, or non-factor in her chances?
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Condiv posted:i hope it stops it, but i'm not at all hopeful that the establishment candidate who's had a big hand it why things are how they are in france is gonna do well against an anti-establishment candidate. hillary was polling at certain to win when the primary ended and she still flubbed it to trump, and she wasn't as involved as macron was in the recent hated french admin I think it helps that Macron can say he left early enough, also he's not of the Socialist who obviouslywere the ones trying to gently caress the french people. At least Melachon showed the left has some actual spirit in it. Also Potou did better then they thought he would. (I have a second cousin who was an auto worker so I always like the idea of auto workers . ALso nice to see Republicans got third. Hope this leads to another messy leadership fight.
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Because France's system is essentially built so that the first round allows a plurality of ideas (also because chances are most of that 6% would never have voted by someone endorsed by the PCF and it's hard to get over the ego trip of leading the majority party)
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wizard on a water slide posted:Does anybody know enough about the culture of the French far right to speculate meaningfully on whether Le Pen's gender is a hindrance, asset, or non-factor in her chances? Mostly a non-factor; the tiny fraction that didn't want her in charge is represented by one of the 1% no hopers already and she's broadly anti feminist.
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the trauma of Mélanchon coming in fourth (behind loving Fillon lmao) has caused Condiv's brain to bleed, LePen came in second she's not going to close a 30 point gap in a month
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Fallen Hamprince posted:the trauma of Mélanchon coming in fourth (behind loving Fillon lmao) has caused Condiv's brain to bleed, LePen came in second she's not going to close a 30 point gap in a month well great now le pen is going to close a 30 point gap
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smash cut to two weeks from now. I can't believe Le Pen won by 30 points
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Fallen Hamprince posted:the trauma of Mélanchon coming in fourth (behind loving Fillon lmao) has caused Condiv's brain to bleed, LePen came in second she's not going to close a 30 point gap in a month Hell the fact that he did better then Lepen did in 2012 should be celebrated.
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Just stop, and give in.
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Oh no you guys are right the far right is unstoppable, just ask prime minister geert wilders
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Fallen Hamprince posted:Oh no you guys are right the far right is unstoppable, just ask prime minister geert wilders Parliamentary elections and coalitions leading to PMs if there is no majority party are different than Presidential elections...? 
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Macron will win but he definitely won't fix anything so the Le Pen Presidency will probably just be delayed.
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Fallen Hamprince posted:Oh no you guys are right the far right is unstoppable, just ask prime minister geert wilders Plus I think having Trump back Le Pen is going to really gently caress her chances as well.
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Dude got Marie Kay Letourneau'd. I know that things are different over there, but still. That's pretty remarkable.
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Pity that leftists can't win elections anymore
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MaxxBot posted:Macron will win but he definitely won't fix anything so the Le Pen Presidency will probably just be delayed. he's gonna gently caress over everyone who isn't an investment banker so hard that there will be the third paris commune
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MaxxBot posted:Macron will win but he definitely won't fix anything so the Le Pen Presidency will probably just be delayed. yea prolly
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Not sure why they didn't simply re-elect Hollande if they wanted more of the same.
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Horseshoe theory posted:Not sure why they didn't simply re-elect Hollande if they wanted more of the same.
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Horseshoe theory posted:Not sure why they didn't simply re-elect Hollande if they wanted more of the same. because this is different*!
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jBrereton posted:It's cool they elected his economy minister who is more or less to blame for the worst stuff. Sounds like the happy ending that the French deserve, then.
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