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Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
69% turnout. Nice.

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Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

MizPiz posted:

So France is basically doing their own "Trump v Clinton but with the genders swapped" experiment, right?

Macron is probably left of Clinton and Le Pen is substantially right of Trump, but it's close.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

etalian posted:

It's sort of tough to decide what Trump believes.

He went from bragging about how he wouldn't get involved in Syria to bombing it on a whim.

The problem is that Trump is genuinely quite stupid and ignorant, if not outright mentally ill, so it's hard to say if he even knows enough to form baseline positions on core issues.

He's definitely conservative, though.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Lastgirl posted:

not even the naruto memes could save melenchon?

Melenchon had a good election day and came within 2% of Le Pen, just a bit more consolidation on the left (lol) and he would have been through.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

whomupclicklike posted:

Feel like Macron Is going to have a scandal come out at the last minute and ruin this election

Photographic evidence of his liaisons with several mistresses emerges and his polling average shoots up 20 points.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Coolguye posted:

im not sure why it's a surprise to a lot of people that the french turned out to be terrible when they literally have a governmental bureau whose entire mission is the protection of the french language from idioms and influence from other, more barbarous languages

this is literally a government organization that tells people to stop using popular idioms because they are not french enough lol

france is actually cool, and a healthy disdain for americans is pretty goddamn reasonable, now more than ever

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

LinYutang posted:

france is poo poo, disliking america isn't special

their politics are maybe 1000x more interesting than ours

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

weird, turns out fascists are incapable of engaging in civil discourse

wish we had some of that in our country, oh well

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Agnosticnixie posted:

He called her the candidate of globalization according to the AJE summary, which I figure might actually help shore up his chances on the left.

no globalist no globalist

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

i think macron resisted her hex, but theres really no way to be sure

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Venuz Patrol posted:

on the other hand...

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/860577544898322434

my fave part is the pepe memes backfiring because it turns out most french people are annoyed by comparisons to frogs

"But the American tactics have not translated overseas."

the underlying assumption, i guess, is that alt-right memes have ever mattered at all beyond a tiny community of insane, inneffectual recluses

Vox Nihili has issued a correction as of 22:07 on May 5, 2017

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

whomupclicklike posted:

Are the leaks even legit?

his campaign confirmed that it was hacked

doesnt mean everything you might come across online is actually legit, mind you. there are a bunch of trumplings trying to stir up poo poo on top of this

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Kurtofan posted:

la hottest take



lmfao

macron hacked himself to totally pwn russia and shore up the FRENCH DEEP STATE, you heard it here first

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
my favorite wikileaks moment was when they just straight up started linking to /r/the_donald conspiracy bullshit on twitter w/ "this raises some serious questions" sort of halfway endorsements

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Baloogan posted:

when do we get the results of the election?

TRUMP

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

anime was right posted:

iirc there was a canary that assange set up to tell if it's been compromised and it was compromised according to that soooo

assange himself has been pretty personally suspect for years given that he was on the RT payroll for awhile

i think he genuinely wants to ~undermine the evil dominant world order and uncover the deep state secrets~ but he basically partnered with lucifer to undermine satan, or something, i dunno if that makes sense i dont read the drat bible

but yeah, in short, there have been a ton of red flags

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

rudatron posted:

There's a prediction and betting thread where you can toxx for donations and probes and such, that should have the French election in ir

it does, im already donation-toxxed on le pen losing to the tune of $50

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

macron is about to do a hillary

Have you toxxed???

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Shear Modulus posted:

pretty sure french people spend their saturdays having sex with beautiful people all day

they also drink wine i think

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Zikan posted:

excuse me wikileaks told me that the panama papers were actually a secret CIA counter psyops false flag sheepe

lmfao forgot about that poo poo

putin offshore account!? oh poo poo, uh, CIA OP CONFIRMED

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Remember that Jeb Bush accused Marco Rubio of having a "French work week" in the Senate due to his low voting record and then he apologized to France for making the comment.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Office Pig posted:

it's like they never understood why hillarys emails worked as a freak out tactic in the first place

it worked because american voters are loving idiots

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

why is hillary posting a bunch of bernie's policies in some weird, arbitrary web configuration?

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
Also, I managed to miss this in the run-up to the election:

quote:

Jean-Marie Le Pen has issued an extraordinary attack on his daughter, claiming she lacks the right qualities to become president.

Mr Le Pen, the 88-year-old former leader of the Front National, said Ms Len Pen had "character," but not much else.

In an interview with the Sunday Times in Paris, he complained his daughter had not sought his advice during the campaign and ignored his emails expressing support.

He insisted that he does want Ms Le Pen to win the election, pointing out he as "called unequivocally for people to vote Marine."

However, he went on to say that his 28-year-old granddaughter, Marion Marechal-Le Pen, would have been a better candidate.

Looks like Marine got Jeb'd by her father at the very last minute, lmao

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Brigadier Sockface posted:

French cabinet announced: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39948523

Conservative Bruno Le Maire as economy minister... fluent in German...

Macron has made it clear that he's going to bring France closer to Germany and strengthen the EU. His first stop after becoming President was Germany.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/13/macron-germany-eurozone-french-president
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-france-leaders-idUSKCN18B13A

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Kurtofan posted:

im not defending macron but what country should he visit first as president, spain?

You guys don't know about the couple franco-allemand

I don't know why you're so defensive on this--his policy preference is openly for closer relations with Germany. It's not some sort of secret.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Fallen Hamprince posted:

Macron will usher in a thousand years of neoliberal darkness with his 'mandatory collective bargaining on a company-by-company basis' policy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Macron#Economy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Khomri_law

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

"The proposal technically maintains the 35-hour workweek, but allows companies to organize alternative working times without following industry-wide deals, up to a 48-hour workweek and 12 hours per day. In "exceptional circumstances," employees could work up to 60 hours a week."

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

KomradeX posted:

The Nazis are gonna win their next election aren't they?

i expect the socialists (some flavor thereof, anyway) will be back in power in france within a few years. trump has helpfully poisoned the well re: the far right

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

KomradeX posted:

But will they be actually socialists again or more of these people that hate the idea of socialism that still some how ended up controlling socialist parties?

based on the late Mélenchon surge during the last election, i expect that actual socialism is not out of style in france. people were just really disappointed/angry with hollande

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Shear Modulus posted:

macron knows that he doesn't need to campaign in english right

i think that #vivatech bullshit is meant to signal to american investors in the silicon valley and elsewhere that france is ~open for business~

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
so this guy won his election on Sunday



Cédric Villani

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

hakimashou posted:

This thread increasingly convinces me that Macron is the right man to lead France.

The antidote to the far right isn't the far left.

lol even the contrarianposters cant muster up any real support for macron

its just "ACTchoolery hes somewhat less racist than you implied"

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Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Kurtofan posted:

melenchon has been on a big streak of idiotic statements, its kinda sad

He sounds extraordinarily French.

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