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Okay but what if Brittany secedes between now and the 7th.
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What if Bordeaux was nuked tomorrow tho? Could Le Pen win then?
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May 2, 2017 23:28
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He called her the candidate of globalization according to the AJE summary, which I figure might actually help shore up his chances on the left.
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May 3, 2017 23:17
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Vox Nihili posted:no globalist no globalist It might work with people who think of Thatcher's endless love for strongmen like Pinochet when they think globalization.
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May 3, 2017 23:22
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got any sevens posted:Haha pot kettle etc TBH she probably agrees with Pinochet's position on helicopters
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May 4, 2017 00:05
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LinYutang posted:Well at least now the French and British don't get to lord over the Americans how enlightened they think they are The cheeto still won and got more votes than Le Pen will get in the runoffs.
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May 7, 2017 04:04
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I'm the people who insist all critique of high finance is antisemitic who sometimes manage to find an actual jew rather than a gentile whose name can be twisted into sounding vaguely jewish like the Rockefellers.
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May 7, 2017 04:15
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Le Pen losing is still not much of a slap to the far right, she hadn't made the runoffs since the 07 elections. But the french party system probably just died.
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May 7, 2017 11:54
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Bip Roberts posted:I wonder if any more french nazis can shoot themselves in public. It would be hard to find someone with the ridiculous stature Venner had on the french far right. Maybe Papa Le Pen.
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May 7, 2017 12:06
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Horseshoe theory posted:So Macron will appoint Le Pen as Prime Minister or something? That's when Marion Marechal somehow manages to become the leader of the plurality party in the national assembly, so probably another decade. Also even if En Marche runs literally no one for the legislatives, he's got plenty of neolib turncoat PS guys and Sarkozy-style Republicans who are probably going to be all too happy to do a bit of cohabitation.
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May 7, 2017 15:04
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Venom Snake posted:American youth tend to be much more diverse Something like half of french youth has at least one immigrant grandparent Also the demographics argument didn't get Clinton elected and white american youth still went Trump harder so... Agnosticnixie has issued a correction as of 00:51 on May 8, 2017 |
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May 8, 2017 00:43
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hakimashou posted:Bernie "the new ron paul" Sanders got his rear end kicked bad by hillary clinton. Corbyn just presided over one landslide loss and is set to preside over another in June, then either resign in disgrace or destroy the labour party itself. Reminder that Chirac won with 80% of the vote in 02. It's absolutely not a stunning or devastating blow. It also means that the main center right party's electors are mostly fine voting for a fascist in runoffs. It's also completely missing the point: Macron won because everyone knows she's a nazi and most of France isn't going to pretend she's a legitimate political option for now. The US can't do that because bipartisan nonsense is culturally ingrained.
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May 8, 2017 00:53
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:i kinda feel like if you were to compare the french political spectrum vs the united states one everybody but le pen would be insanely left wing and le pen would be somewhere very comfortable in the us chart zone That would be on the same charts that consider nazism to be a centrist ideology and Bismarck a dirty commie for state interventionism?
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May 8, 2017 01:11
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punk rebel ecks posted:No they didn't. I literally responded to him on the next post... I meant harder than french youth.
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May 8, 2017 02:02
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:does this apply to france now too? maybe not to UK with corbyn tho The legislatives are going to be a horrendous mess so we'll see then.
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May 8, 2017 05:44
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Kurtofan posted:it's a real word used by real people but i never heard it in that context, only about individuals yeah, it's usually more a way to talk about people who want to become bourgie as life goals rather than like, neighborhoods.
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May 13, 2017 23:12
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KomradeX posted:Good thing they didn't elect an open fascist That's just normal, day to day France tbh.
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May 16, 2017 20:57
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:yeah france being a fascistic totalitarian state is why they can't get a grip on their citizens communications and detect well armed jihadis before they shoot dozens of people every time obviously I'm pretty sure even Hollande had military parades. This isn't actually a new thing for the french, it's a fairly old school kind of "wtf".
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May 17, 2017 16:07
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Yes, I'm absolutely going to believe groups that have a history of spying on the left were totally going to stop violent right wing protests rather than the most likely event in a Le Pen victorious scenario, which is justified antifascist riots.
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May 18, 2017 18:37
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lollontee posted:Aren't like 60% of reek police golden dawn voters? burn em good and tasty imho. I'm peckish It's less than 60 in France but still pretty drat high, FN's biggest demographics are cops and career military.
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May 19, 2017 02:57
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France as a nation of tech bros, what could go wrong with this.
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Jun 15, 2017 19:07
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They might sell to Google before the 2222 elections.
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Jun 16, 2017 00:24
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Like Trudeau he realizes that he's going to be a lot more popular in the states than in his home country in 5 years.
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Jun 16, 2017 01:11
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Macron turning out to be the accelerationist candidate is, somehow, not surprising. Le Pen is what's going to happen once acceleration hits in full stride unless the french left sorts itself out (it won't). Having half my family running from yet another country in 60 years is not gonna own.
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Jun 17, 2017 06:06
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To be fair saying he wants to be the closest France had to an actual legitimately elected fascist president reborn isn't that much more reassuring.
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Jul 9, 2017 12:18
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"I will be a Jupiterian president, like the general whose presidency ended with mass protests, attempted coups and a couple ruinous colonial wars that the majority of the french population was against"
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Jul 9, 2017 21:30
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Taintrunner posted:i like how macron is the reasonable centrist leader of the free world, and by that i mean immediately submitting to the whims of capital Reasonable centrism is basically enacting Fukuyama's worldview of a thousand year neoliberal reich.
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Jul 10, 2017 16:50
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Beating Sarkozy and Chirac in less than two months in office is probably some kind of record?
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Jul 10, 2017 19:17
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jBrereton posted:He may beat Coty and Hollande yet! I mean in terms of somehow managing to beat the "Smell and Noise" speech and the bullshit Sarkozy said about Africa. Also this is incredibly unfair to Coty.
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Jul 10, 2017 19:22
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jBrereton posted:Ah I thought you meant worldwide derision-wise. The centrists will still cling to him the way they still cling to Merkel after she voted against gay marriage, the way they still cling to Trudeau after literally everything he did. They'll be the free world to every idiot centrist for years to come because they get dazzled by the pomp, politeness and normalcy of it all and would be absolutely fine if the president was a polite piece of poo poo.
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Jul 10, 2017 19:27
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"Wow, this full transcript of Le Bruit et l'Odeur 2 makes it seem tolerable to me, a reasonable centrist, much as it does with Chirac's speech"
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Jul 11, 2017 01:35
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The horrible thing with Francafrique is that it's a lot like the Washington Consensus, it would probably take a seriously sharp turn left to get rid of it for good.
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Jul 11, 2017 01:52
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hakimashou posted:This thread increasingly convinces me that Macron is the right man to lead France. Yes, centrism, famously the solution to fascism. Remind me what was the name of the party that formed the governing coalition that propelled Hitler to power?
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Jul 11, 2017 03:29
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"Chirac was a great man and a great president, who cares about a little racism here and there"
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Jul 11, 2017 04:33
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The Macron fanfic is about how Macron is really doing this as a huge snub.
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Jul 13, 2017 11:40
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etalian posted:Just about every country has dossiers on foreign leaders and what strategy works best. The Saudis didn't need to do that much manipulating I suspect, the west has been writing Saudi Arabia blank cheques for 40 years now.
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I absolutely can.
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